2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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64. Bernie is breaking it down. And Hillary will need his coalition to push us left and so will he.

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Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:50 PM

Feb 2016

Either way, it is a path that has to be stuck to.

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PBS NewsHour Democratic Debate -- LIVE THREAD #3 [View all] brooklynite Feb 2016 OP

Thanks for a new thread for a stand out debate book_worm Feb 2016 #1

I agree with this! N/t SheenaR Feb 2016 #4

^^^ I FULLY SUPPORT THIS MESSAGE ^^^ TKS BKLNITE! bettyellen Feb 2016 #9

Sanders on fire and it's obvious n/t SheenaR Feb 2016 #2

He's caught a crappy cold. Ugh. I feel for him. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #5

Oh, it's him? Beacool Feb 2016 #12

Yep. Caught some cooties from somewhere.nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #22

Bound to happen. elleng Feb 2016 #24

I don't support him and think she's doing better but he has improved a lot. nolabear Feb 2016 #6

Discussion moves to Syrian ceasefire plan brooklynite Feb 2016 #3

Sanders: Obama and I disagree with Clinton on "no fly zone" brooklynite Feb 2016 #7

She's not cutting Russia any slack. nolabear Feb 2016 #8

I disliked that Sanders said Russia's issues are ultimately all about $$$. It's just repetitive. bettyellen Feb 2016 #27

Not happy about Hillary backing Israel in that way. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #10

Yeah...Sander's is being all about diplomacy and encouraging them to engage in the region... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #17

Yeah her saber rattling isn't that flattering. hollowdweller Feb 2016 #18

Eh, this is one point i strongly agree with her on Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #29

lol! restorefreedom Feb 2016 #11

That's one nasty cough, Bernie. nolabear Feb 2016 #13

Bed and hot and sour soup would be calling my name.nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #16

Poor guys voice must be shot. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #19

He had it on victory night too SheenaR Feb 2016 #20

you know what they call chicken soup? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #31

"I have no illusions: Iran is sponsoring terrorism" brooklynite Feb 2016 #14

"Iran is the main state sponsor of Terrorism"? PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #15

When was the last time we had a Shiite terrorist attack in the US? hollowdweller Feb 2016 #23

Al Quaeda right? PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #26

They both are... RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #35

I don't understand the "meeting with conditions" thing... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #21

Question about refugee crisis: What should the US be doing? brooklynite Feb 2016 #25

Cuttah BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #28

Facebook question: What two leaders would influence your foreign policy decisions? brooklynite Feb 2016 #30

Sanders makes huge mistake citing FDR... brooklynite Feb 2016 #32

Winston Churchill a much safer choice brooklynite Feb 2016 #34

Not if you know anything about Churchill outside WWII. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #55

The QUESTION was about foreign policy brooklynite Feb 2016 #59

And guess what? Churchill had foreign policy outside WWII. jeff47 Feb 2016 #69

Not true. About leaders one American one international n/t Melissa G Feb 2016 #127

...who would inform their foreign policy. brooklynite Feb 2016 #139

Sorry, I didn't get that at all. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #37

interesting that has been a frequent DU citation too. and yep, racism. bettyellen Feb 2016 #40

Clinton agreed with him! nt slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #44

Sanders is hitting it out of the park tonight indeed. Purveyor Feb 2016 #33

I don't agree. He's doing fine but I wouldn't call it hitting it. nolabear Feb 2016 #45

Clinton: I would choose Nelson Mandela brooklynite Feb 2016 #36

Clinton going after Sanders for criticism of President Obama brooklynite Feb 2016 #38

HUGE positive response from crowd brooklynite Feb 2016 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Duval Feb 2016 #144

That's a cheap shot... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #43

She did answer the question--agreed about FDR & mentioned Nelson Mandella book_worm Feb 2016 #51

She's completely distorting his record... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #56

Interesting tactic hibbing Feb 2016 #46

She had rousing applause for it too. OUCH. You'd think it's "the League", LOL. bettyellen Feb 2016 #49

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #65

google trends restorefreedom Feb 2016 #39

Please Hillary... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #42

You want to define Pandering? THAT my friends, is pandering. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #47

For real... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #50

In the "I agree" category, HRC co-opts that much more Arazi Feb 2016 #48

Clinton slams back: Sanders called for Primary opponent for President Obama brooklynite Feb 2016 #52

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #58

Call Thom tomorrow. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #83

Booooooo come on Sanders...you said more than that!!!! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #53

This is the blurb: TCJ70 Feb 2016 #63

I'm talking about Sanders over all meme against Obama for the last 3 years... not just the book uponit7771 Feb 2016 #95

The suggestion to Primary is true.... Stop interrupting her, Bernie!! bettyellen Feb 2016 #54

"Personal charges" Hillary? TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #57

Just got in to watch this on TV RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #60

This is the harshest lighting I have seen either of them in. Watching in HD and no one is pretty. bettyellen Feb 2016 #70

and that yellow outfit she has on makes her RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #77

No- an Astronaut!!!! And it is very timely- Martian will win Best Picture! Bernie looked bettyellen Feb 2016 #86

That's a little both ends against the middle on Bernie's part re Obama. nolabear Feb 2016 #61

I think HRC's statements about Bernie's criticism of the president book_worm Feb 2016 #62

it was rehearsed and full of half truths Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #80

Bernie is breaking it down. And Hillary will need his coalition to push us left and so will he. bettyellen Feb 2016 #64

Clinton is not going to push us left RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #74

I have just witnessed same, yes. Whoever makes it to the WH, even if - bettyellen Feb 2016 #102

Except with tRump it's not called revolution. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #105

I am saying our fight to regain congress, even if we have to ALSO regain the White House. No bettyellen Feb 2016 #108

Clinton: I am not a single issue candidate brooklynite Feb 2016 #66

The Obama kerfuffle is a bit of a waste on both parts. nolabear Feb 2016 #67

I think they both feel like they need his cred. And that is great! bettyellen Feb 2016 #75

Only one candidate has run against Barack Obama shawn703 Feb 2016 #68

Or been his SOS. nolabear Feb 2016 #72

...and Obama chose her to be in his admin, not Sanders for good reason uponit7771 Feb 2016 #85

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. nt shawn703 Feb 2016 #130

GET IT GIRL!!!! Outside of hating Wall Street and wanting more for the middle class Sanders uponit7771 Feb 2016 #71

I'm sorry that's all you got out of what he said tonight. Suggest you check his website to fill you EndElectoral Feb 2016 #82

I have, Sanders doesn't give specifics on a lot of issues... he literally lost me on SP because uponit7771 Feb 2016 #91

For everyone hibbing Feb 2016 #73

Peace back. When we're in the same "room" we listen together well. nolabear Feb 2016 #79

And...that's a wrap. brooklynite Feb 2016 #76

Brooklynite- thanks again for the great threads! bettyellen Feb 2016 #106

What a strong close from Hillary Clinton. Wow, that blew me away. Holy shit I am shaking. nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #78

She was very strong at the end. Passionate and I'm a Sanders supporter. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #87

I thought her closer was great. Glad she did a shout out to unions. Bernie doesn't mention them hollowdweller Feb 2016 #89

Great debate book_worm Feb 2016 #81

Whow. Hillary hit it out of the ballpark with her closing. while poor Bernie was shaking riversedge Feb 2016 #84

And PBS ends the live stream on... a commercial ! GO PUBLIC BROADCASTING SERVICE Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #88

Bernie wins again in my opinion mvd Feb 2016 #90

Dirty attempt to pit Bernie against Obama & even Ted Kennedy. senz Feb 2016 #92

So Sanders DIDN'T call for a Primary challenge against the President? brooklynite Feb 2016 #94

NO, he did NOT "call" for a primary challenge. senz Feb 2016 #96

Nah, he said it would be a good idea uponit7771 Feb 2016 #99

In a conversation with a caller on the TH show re Obama cutting Social Security, senz Feb 2016 #104

This is false on its face, Sanders proffered Obama be primaried more than once and it doesn't matter uponit7771 Feb 2016 #109

It is absolutely true. I read the account & heard TH himself describe it. senz Feb 2016 #121

Ummmm, no.. false... Link inside uponit7771 Feb 2016 #132

Okay, I didn't know that. But it doesn't change anything. Here's why: senz Feb 2016 #136

No... no senz, Sanders consummately bashed Obama... He was always dissing him. uponit7771 Feb 2016 #137

OR...he could have said "no"... brooklynite Feb 2016 #113

+1, then after that called him weak and then has people who say the most vile racialized crap about uponit7771 Feb 2016 #98

Sanders and Obama like and respect each other. They campaigned for each other. senz Feb 2016 #112

I don't believe that for a split second, Sanders even last month said in a question in regards uponit7771 Feb 2016 #120

Think. Sanders champions the people and wants to pursue those ends. senz Feb 2016 #124

Not the point of conversation, Sanders was consummate in his disses of Obama and ... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #133

I think you've been given false information. senz Feb 2016 #140

Sanders surroagates are people who say the most vile racialized things about Obama and now uponit7771 Feb 2016 #97

Get serious. I worked my tush off to reelect Obama. senz Feb 2016 #100

Bigga Calls Obama a house slave and west said Obama Nword-izzed the white house those are q.... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #101

Black activists thought Obama didn't support the cause strongly enough. senz Feb 2016 #107

the context for West was a personal issue, sadly. Inaugural tickets. he was happy with him up till bettyellen Feb 2016 #111

Yeap, Sanders is kinda like West IMHO... petulant ... the type to scream at the cab driver for not uponit7771 Feb 2016 #116

he has the NYC impatience that I love, but dunno how it plays with others. I do quite well with it! bettyellen Feb 2016 #118

Hopefully there are some people who disagree with Obama on some things but... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #114

If I were an AA, I'd drop Hill like a stone and go with Bernie. senz Feb 2016 #117

Most AAs are not because of Sanders overt stance against Obama uponit7771 Feb 2016 #122

That's it? That's all there is? Well then there's nothing. senz Feb 2016 #128

She thinks AAs are easily manipulated shawn703 Feb 2016 #131

Nope, you've read a good portion of why here on DU... or should have by now uponit7771 Feb 2016 #134

Hilary Berned It Up Tonight! What a Great Performance by our next President! farmboy Feb 2016 #93

I don't think so RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #103

Personal insults...always a great campaign strategy. brooklynite Feb 2016 #110

1) The commenter is not campaigning. 2) Hill got personally insultng with Bernie. senz Feb 2016 #115

I notice that you only object to SOME personal insults tkmorris Feb 2016 #123

Not an attack RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #129

wow.... no we're back to personal appearances ... sigh uponit7771 Feb 2016 #135

Personal appearances matter when dealing with foreign heads of state. n/t RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #138

Music to my Hillary-supporting ears. These kinds of insults will backfire bigtime on Bernie. farmboy Feb 2016 #141

A candidate who pits her rival against friendly office holders is NOT presidential. senz Feb 2016 #119

respecting Kissinger and thinking superpac money doesn't come with expectations NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #125

Wow... MrWendel Feb 2016 #126

wow.... no we're back to personal insults ... sigh RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #142

? MrWendel Feb 2016 #143