2016 Postmortem

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

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7. Interesting article.

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:13 AM

Feb 2016

Still, I support her less for her specific political positions (some of which I agree with, many of which I do not—all of which are far superior to the racist/sexist/xenophobic sideshow that is the Republican primary field) than for the iconic value of electing the first woman president of the United States.

A big long essay that distills down to I'm voting for her because she's a woman, wrapped up in a lot of but I swear, I wouldn't vote for Palin or Bachmann arguments.

so no, you're not

For refusing to back Bernie in the primary, I’m a dupe and a traitor; I’m a tool of (take your pick) imperialist, war-mongering, militaristic, in-the-pocket-of-Wall-Street corporate hacks.

you're simply one of the voters who is voting for her because she's a woman, which is a different part of the Hillary coalition.

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Bernie's repeated finger wagging last night reminded me of this I recently read in The Nation [View all] flpoljunkie Feb 2016 OP

Jonathan Capehart called it "jazz hands". nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Feb 2016 #3

Chris Matthews said it looked like he was calling for a waiter. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #4

hahahaha workinclasszero Feb 2016 #37

LOL! Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #52

Mathews is always thinking about food scscholar Feb 2016 #56

Oh!!!!!!!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #26

Yeah, he was being a little shit about it. I got the impression that WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #41

Yes, talks with his hands -- but tells the truth. senz Feb 2016 #47

K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #2

Excellent article!! handmade34 Feb 2016 #5

Bernie's demeanor bothers some people, Hillary's voice drives me nuts. Vinca Feb 2016 #6

Her voice? What do you mean? Why is it we never complaints about men's voices? flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #9

Who's Ray Romono? pinebox Feb 2016 #11

Is he a male politician running for the highest office in the land? flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #17

Ohhhh you said men's voices, not a presidential candidate XD pinebox Feb 2016 #20

George W Bush nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #45

???? I'd complain about a man's voice, too, if it drove me crazy. Vinca Feb 2016 #14

So it's okay for Sanders finger wagging to bother people but not okay for Hillary's voice to liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #28

If Jerry Seinfeld sat at the table next to mine in a restaurant... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #44

Well, often we do. Orsino Feb 2016 #58

I have relabeled my remote control's MUTE button to HILLARY / FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #12

Now that's sexist. flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #19

Now that's ridiculous. sammythecat Feb 2016 #32

I can't stand her voice either. I'm a woman. It's not because she's a woman. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #25

I knew I wasn't alone. Vinca Feb 2016 #39

You're so right. Those "ah"s gets on my nerves too. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #40

I have to admit, he does sound like Larry David and that makes me smile. Vinca Feb 2016 #42

Reminds me of Underdog Politicalboi Feb 2016 #55

Interesting article. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #7

The author doesn't see Bernie able to get his 'redistributive economic policies' thru Congress flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #8

He wagged his finger? Really? That's all you've got? nichomachus Feb 2016 #10

+1 - Excellent! fleur-de-lisa Feb 2016 #15

Perhaps you did not read the linked article from the nation. flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #16

It was boiled down upthread. frylock Feb 2016 #35

nice try olddots Feb 2016 #13

Keep giving the finger, Bernie. bigwillq Feb 2016 #18

What you said! farleftlib Feb 2016 #21

no we can't - no we can't - no we can't SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #22

'No, we can't elect a Democratic Socialist'? flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #23

LOL SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #24

That all you got? flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #34

oh no the dreadful finger wagging Truprogressive85 Feb 2016 #27

K N R Faux pas Feb 2016 #29

When you can't attack the issues, GET PETTY! valerief Feb 2016 #30

Tell that to the female socialist who wrote the article in the Nation. flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #33

She's voting for Hillary because woman president. frylock Feb 2016 #36

Okay, got it mikehiggins Feb 2016 #31

Any woman who dares to admit BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #38

Good question, BlueMTexpat. flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #43

Really? And here I thought us Bernie women were "going to hell." senz Feb 2016 #46

Excuse me but this woman has had that experience at the hands of HRC supporters nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #48

nadin - I have never belittled BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #49

I am just talking from my experience here nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #51

I concur! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #53

and any woman who does not support Hillary is accused of sexism. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #59

I really had left this thread, BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #60

good be gone. In fact, be on my ignore list. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #61

And Hillary's constant eye rolling & condescending tone reminded me of my daughter when she was a jillan Feb 2016 #50

The split screen made it more evident. Beacool Feb 2016 #54

Yes, it was very distracting, as well. flpoljunkie Feb 2016 #57