2016 Postmortem

mikehiggins

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331. You have to be kidding, right?

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:25 PM

Feb 2016

The man who took the picture, and the others, states that the person in the figure is Bernie Sanders.

What more do you need?

Capehart and Rappaport's friends, and the person who changed the caption claim they KNOW it was the other guy and the guy who took the picture en route to establishing himself as a seminal figure in the history of the Civil Rights movement says THEY ARE WRONG, or something else.

Who are these people? What are they doing this for? Who knows.

How do you ignore the direct statement of the person who was directly involved in the picture taking?

It's fine if you don't like Sanders. Lots of people don't. But please don't turn your eyes away from the facts in the situation.

The guy who took the picture says its Sanders. Why is there, how could there be, a question past that point.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Skinner Feb 2016 OP

The photgrapher himself debunked it. bunnies Feb 2016 #1

If a number of other people who were there believe this was someone named Bruce Rappaport... Skinner Feb 2016 #9

The photographer addresses that too... bunnies Feb 2016 #13

People are justifiably upset that Bernie's civil rights record is being questioned. Skinner Feb 2016 #32

Rappaport's wife said she couldn't be sure. cali Feb 2016 #51

and Lyon took the photo in question CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #98

xcellant job questionseverything Feb 2016 #161

I feel like i did when Kerry didn't properly sue the swiftboaters for slander as well... cascadiance Feb 2016 #219

In Bernie's place, I would ask a lawyer to write each journalist or person who disseminated JDPriestly Feb 2016 #271

+ a brazillion! nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #557

He would undoubtedly lose mythology Feb 2016 #468

I sincerely hope Skinner re-check's the TIME Article for the update Kittycat Feb 2016 #446

Honestly... I have no idea. bunnies Feb 2016 #61

I appreciate your honesty. Skinner Feb 2016 #108

Exactly. Hashed out and then dropped. bunnies Feb 2016 #115

Except for the fact that a few DU members had their posts hidden for taking a side. Skinner Feb 2016 #117

True enough. And thats unfortunate. bunnies Feb 2016 #124

It is unfortunate. You are very kind to say so. Skinner Feb 2016 #260

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #222

The photographer found more photos of Bernie at the SAME event. SAME exact clothing Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #138

yes so we do know the whole thing is a smear questionseverything Feb 2016 #166

The real question is who is behind this Rovian smear EndElectoral Feb 2016 #340

who does it benefit? once that is answered the actual henchmen doesn't matter so much questionseverything Feb 2016 #356

Skinner, please go to this page. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #343

You are being disingenuous passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #450

He was the SNCC official photographer. its his job to know Arazi Feb 2016 #64

Really good point cali Feb 2016 #66

He had to correctly identify people or he wouldn't have that job Arazi Feb 2016 #77

the photographer provides other photos of Sanders wearing the exact same clothes on his website. femmedem Feb 2016 #104

Looking at that group of four images, especially the one on the lower right... ladyVet Feb 2016 #431

Have you seen the several other photos from the same day? jberryhill Feb 2016 #223

There is another photo on another thread that shows Bruce had on a light colored sweater, onecaliberal Feb 2016 #229

You have to be kidding, right? mikehiggins Feb 2016 #331

Oh my, who to believe Aerows Feb 2016 #416

I'm assuming you know who Lyon is cali Feb 2016 #27

Under the 2nd pic, the one with the chancellor is a comment by the photographer. madfloridian Feb 2016 #40

I made my own post about this because it is super serious issue, questioning a candidate's honesty. madfloridian Feb 2016 #126

Yes, well, there are sides we can take now Oilwellian Feb 2016 #150

It is the contention of many, that Sanders is being Swiftboatted CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #125

Punctuated by John Lewis' comments on Bernie yesterday. This is a coordinated attack. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #152

I agree 100%. The Clintons will do anything to get elected. Politics at its worst. MelissaB Feb 2016 #248

I hate that they drag otherwise good people into participating in their skulduggery. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #262

Yes it is. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #453

^^That^^ onecaliberal Feb 2016 #232

-- geologic Feb 2016 #363

Had Kerry been running instead of Sanders R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #472

According to the discussion on MSNBC last night this was a recent change. dogman Feb 2016 #137

Yes, the U of Chi changed the caption two years ago..but K Gardner Feb 2016 #185

No, we can only assume that Clinton supporters will lie to smear Bernie. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #210

I'm so disappointed in Skinner for this OP in light of the Kittycat Feb 2016 #113

It sure means this issue isn't nothing Arazi Feb 2016 #131

I'm not sure how many photos and Kittycat Feb 2016 #145

^Bingo^ nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #389

And then refusing to admit he's wrong when faced with the proof passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #455

I have to agree. chervilant Feb 2016 #341

Capehart tweets he has NOW interviewed the photographer.. K Gardner Feb 2016 #220

That was 7 hours ago how slow does Capehart type krawhitham Feb 2016 #449

It wasn't EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #2

Actually, he provided 4 more photos of him at the same event. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #10

Wearing the same clothes. Octafish Feb 2016 #328

To paraphrase George Costanza... dchill Feb 2016 #69

And the Smear keeps on giving Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #101

It has not been debunked. bravenak Feb 2016 #3

You havent seen the photgraphers blog? bunnies Feb 2016 #5

Not convinced. I have no idea whose wordpress that is or exactly what they were trying to say bravenak Feb 2016 #12

Come on. bunnies Feb 2016 #18

Maybe they do not know as well as the classmates and wife of bruce Rappaport? bravenak Feb 2016 #26

So he stole Bernies clothes and tricked the photgrapher?! bunnies Feb 2016 #35

Had Bernie claimed it was himself? No bravenak Feb 2016 #45

Why should he? nt bunnies Feb 2016 #49

Exactly. Because it was Bruce Rappaport. bravenak Feb 2016 #52

Honestly Bravenak... bunnies Feb 2016 #72

Thank you. No. I dont. bravenak Feb 2016 #89

Im glad we agree on that damn photo. bunnies Feb 2016 #97

Apparently you do. bvf Feb 2016 #321

Umm hmm bravenak Feb 2016 #323

Stop bringing race into everything. Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2016 #509

What's the old saying? bvf Feb 2016 #529

word. SixString Feb 2016 #545

Stop worrying about what I do. bravenak Feb 2016 #556

So...the SNCC staff photographer goes under the bus. jeff47 Feb 2016 #36

Oh so lets just throw Rappaports wife undet the bus? bravenak Feb 2016 #38

Hey, I'm not the one suddenly having to change my standards. jeff47 Feb 2016 #41

Did bernie say that was himself? bravenak Feb 2016 #48

His shoes did. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #193

Shoes cannot talk bravenak Feb 2016 #195

Give it up. That's Bernie. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #382

Video ---> Petrushka Feb 2016 #242

He doesn't say that there even bravenak Feb 2016 #246

You mock us for H.A. Goodman. Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #415

Not really since I never really discuss HA Goodman on this site bravenak Feb 2016 #417

Please make this it's own thread! MelissaB Feb 2016 #259

At my age, I have neitherthe time nor the patience to start such a thread . . . so . . . Petrushka Feb 2016 #327

Didn't Bernie state he didn't think this was his picture? Sheepshank Feb 2016 #253

I think he was not sure because he and bruce looked alike bravenak Feb 2016 #256

Bernie didn't take the picture. Lyon did and he says it's Bernie. nt valerief Feb 2016 #63

Still doubt it???? nt Logical Feb 2016 #559

Not really he said it was himself like I wanted. He knows himself best. Bruce is dead. Cant talk. bravenak Feb 2016 #560

It's his blog. Geez. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #22

Bruce Rappaports wife says it's Bruce bravenak Feb 2016 #29

Bruce Rappaport's wife didn't take the picture. Danny Lyon did, and he says it's Bernie. valerief Feb 2016 #91

And Bruce is conveniently dead. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #103

Did the photog know bernie and bruce as well as their classmates or Wives? No bravenak Feb 2016 #109

Danny Lyon was the student group's photographer. He knew who was who. JimDandy Feb 2016 #392

I think i just cannot think about this photo anymore today bravenak Feb 2016 #393

I hear you. JimDandy Feb 2016 #394

I wonder if the photog is a Bernie supporter? CorkySt.Clair Feb 2016 #197

It wouldn't matter if they were supporters. bravenak Feb 2016 #200

Agreed CorkySt.Clair Feb 2016 #203

Oh her poor facebook if it gets found. bravenak Feb 2016 #206

There are FOUR other pictures of Berne, taken at the same time, and he is wearing the tblue37 Feb 2016 #558

link? frylock Feb 2016 #226

Oh jeeze. bravenak Feb 2016 #239

No link? frylock Feb 2016 #247

Not good enough, Danny! bunnies Feb 2016 #46

You need to stop. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #67

But it gets so much attention!! arcane1 Feb 2016 #79

Look at all the hearts! frylock Feb 2016 #227

Lol! JudyM Feb 2016 #346

It's like "I know you are, but what am I?" JudyM Feb 2016 #348

As soon as we stop talking about this photo bravenak Feb 2016 #96

You didn't have to weigh in on it, but the R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #111

I know. I just am watching this feeling sad. bravenak Feb 2016 #116

Hey how about we talk about American issues Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2016 #511

Indeed. eom John Poet Feb 2016 #281

LOL. You've got to be kidding. lovemydog Feb 2016 #489

Opinions vary. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #490

Yes they do. lovemydog Feb 2016 #491

You are not convinced abakan Feb 2016 #213

Oh? My job is skepticism. I do my job. bravenak Feb 2016 #217

That's one word for it. [nt] Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #269

I won't even click when someone wildeyed Feb 2016 #369

You are smart bravenak Feb 2016 #373

https://dektol.wordpress.com/2016/01/30/bernie-sanders-leads-1963-sit-in/ dogman Feb 2016 #4

I think Bernie is in the bottom right corner of that picture Lucinda Feb 2016 #6

That is what I unserstood too bravenak Feb 2016 #14

The photographer says Bernie was the speaker. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #19

Not really. People who knew them both said it's Rappaport. The photos I posted clearly show Lucinda Feb 2016 #21

Then how come the photographer who took the photo says it's Bernie? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #28

Because they both look a lot alike and even dressed similarly. But if that top photo is Bernie, Lucinda Feb 2016 #37

I'm looking at a copy of the photo in my copy of Outsider in the White House retrowire Feb 2016 #102

And people who knew them both say it's Bernie. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #56

If you truly dont think the guy seated is Bernie, then cool. Lucinda Feb 2016 #60

They were both there wearing the exact same clothes down to the tassels on the shoes? Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #70

Did you look at the two pictures? Lucinda Feb 2016 #78

And the guy seated IS Bernie and the guy standing, wearing the EXACT SAME CLOTHES Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #99

Clearly not passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #458

Most people sit down at some point. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #73

They do no such thing dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #75

No, it doesn't "clearly" show that demwing Feb 2016 #199

The two photos floating around from the photographers site were not taken the same day Lucinda Feb 2016 #205

There's a third photo from same day. Same shoes same clothes hair a little longer. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #216

Photo of Bruce Rappaport. No way that photo is him. Rappaport has what is called a weak chin Autumn Feb 2016 #335

Bernie / Not Bernie demwing Feb 2016 #304

I agree. The man seated looks like Bernie. kcr Feb 2016 #252

Fascinating Trajan Feb 2016 #562

This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Feb 2016 #84

Rappaport stole Bernies clothes and tricked the photgrapher?? bunnies Feb 2016 #25

No. Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2016 #30

We have a photo with both guys in it. Only one of them looks like the undisputed photo of Bernie Lucinda Feb 2016 #43

Take off the Hillary colored glasses passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #460

the speaker uses Bernie's hand gestures eShirl Feb 2016 #50

Did you look at the pictures? Lucinda Feb 2016 #57

Yes I looked at the pictures, and I see the opposite. eShirl Feb 2016 #447

Who owns the sweater with the stretched-out collar? Worn in both pictures. valerief Feb 2016 #76

Two guys cant have boat necked sweaters? That is a stretch. Lucinda Feb 2016 #83

EXACTLY MY POINT, LOL, thank you K Gardner Feb 2016 #114

Where oh where do you see Bernie seated in your bottom pic. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #106

The bottom right of top picture Politicalboi Feb 2016 #112

LOL You are correct. The bottom right of the second photo! Lucinda Feb 2016 #118

I admit that is possible whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #134

I'm just looking at faces and the faces match up for me. And in the end they were both there Lucinda Feb 2016 #149

Not me whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #159

The guy on the bottom right is smoking a cigarette. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #156

The man (Bernie) standing in both of those photos is wearing identical clothing passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #358

These photos were taken on two different days and places. Both are of Bernie JimDandy Feb 2016 #366

Fascinating Trajan Feb 2016 #561

Here Arazi Feb 2016 #7

the link to the article virtualobserver Feb 2016 #8

Here: cali Feb 2016 #11

Thank you. 840high Feb 2016 #74

Yeah Bernie has always been the type of guy UglyGreed Feb 2016 #15

The photographer who took the photos says it was Bernie. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #16

Additional/supporting material from the photographer - the clincher in my view TubbersUK Feb 2016 #17

I agree deutsey Feb 2016 #92

But can we really trust this photographer to tell the truth! R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #139

LOL - Have you seen this ? TubbersUK Feb 2016 #175

TY. This whole thread is a comedy in motion. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #481

Yeah, because the photographer wasn't there MissDeeds Feb 2016 #285

Are those all supposed to be the same guy? CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #212

The photographer has explained this at length, the 'journalists' who did not ask him first need to Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #20

+1 n/t Kittycat Feb 2016 #65

+1000! valerief Feb 2016 #94

Skinner doesn't care to answer you Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #218

The intention seems to be in keeping this in perpetual "we'll never know" mode. arcane1 Feb 2016 #330

I had a long e mail talk with Madfloridian Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #334

Transparent. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #390

The derp is all over this "issue". Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #257

Time was asking random classmates who weren't at the event Chathamization Feb 2016 #344

Yep. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #443

It looks like him to me. libtodeath Feb 2016 #23

The tassels on the shoes. Please see my post here: yodermon Feb 2016 #24

Yep. There are many details which by themselves prove nothing LittleBlue Feb 2016 #47

Clearly a distinguishing feature whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #58

Supporting documentation: Chicago Trib, January 14, 1964 MgtPA Feb 2016 #31

Lists Bernie right there, arrested August 12 at 74th and Lowe. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #59

And charged with resisting arrest! MgtPA Feb 2016 #80

Jonathan Capehart who is claiming to be the authority on this event was not born until 1967 Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #86

Capehart needs to apologize. Now. MgtPA Feb 2016 #93

As do other nefarious characters... R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #143

Yeah, like Skinner passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #461

Capehart needs to be fired for this yellow journalism me b zola Feb 2016 #146

Does he have to refund Brock's check? HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #158

I'm sure they meant to type Bruce Rappaport instead of Bernie Sanders. valerief Feb 2016 #87

Yes. Wait till they change that newsblurb too. Suddenly poor deceased Rappaport TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #105

HERE valerief Feb 2016 #33

Short answer: It hasn't been debunked. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #34

Danny Lyon IllinoisBrenel Feb 2016 #44

He also says he's in the picture that he says he took. ucrdem Feb 2016 #235

read for comprehension. nt grasswire Feb 2016 #353

Back i the film camera days, the had a gadget called shutter release cable. intheflow Feb 2016 #376

la la la la la la la la la la la la passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #463

John Lewis is challenged on his memory and accused of brain damage. LexVegas Feb 2016 #39

No. He isn't taken just at his word. His observation is taken seriously because LittleBlue Feb 2016 #55

Nobody is accusing John Lewis of anything nefarious. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #129

Reced for exposure. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #42

If I am on a jury I will vote to leave the original post alone. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #53

Why am I not surprised? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #464

I don't know DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #500

Sorry if I tend to believe the PHOTOGRAPHER nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #54

Skinner doesn't care to answer you Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #128

Skinner and I are in almost no talkng terms nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #133

I used to expect more of Skinner Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #136

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #141

Built DLC's website. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #162

At this point it is a screaming secret nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #163

This has been an eye-opening thread. ebayfool Feb 2016 #265

I'm right there with you. MelissaB Feb 2016 #268

Add me to that growing list dorkzilla Feb 2016 #286

The jury is in: neverforget Feb 2016 #352

LOL! dorkzilla Feb 2016 #355

The alerter's thin-skinned cowardice is matched only by their illiteracy :) n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #357

i think "scrupples" are what they make dorkzilla Feb 2016 #379

"I thought the man had more scruples than that" Mosby Feb 2016 #367

okay, you are wrong dorkzilla Feb 2016 #384

Ok, you're wrong. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #398

really? link it up then. Mosby Feb 2016 #402

lol yourself. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #408

You have just observed the cat in the Matrix Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #336

This is not the first time. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #433

Wait! What? Who built the DLC's website? MelissaB Feb 2016 #165

Well, why do you believe that Skinner won't answer. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #148

he does have a motive. He is a Hillary supporter. Until now he has done a pretty decent job of liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #155

... R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #164

I'm glad he has a lot of hearts for his fundraiser Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #176

You're a little late to the party with this: Squinch Feb 2016 #62

I'm debunking it with my eyeballs. There are at least 6 pictures from that sit in Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #68

Exactly, 6 pictures with consistent details e.g shoes. n/t TubbersUK Feb 2016 #100

Shoes, sweater with stretched out neck, collar, same exact clothes. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #119

Watching them say, "Well, yeah, but, maybe that other guy had the TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #135

Not a rabbit hole. It's straight forward swiftboating, delrem Feb 2016 #473

Yeah, the "well, no matter which candidate you support, let's all group-hug TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #505

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #71

Why didn't the 'journalists' ask Lyons in the first place? Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #81

^Bingo.^ nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #440

Bernie has photos of himself in the "50th Anniversary March on Washington" video I just posted Donkees Feb 2016 #82

I know you have tried to stay unbiased, but I think your bias is showing a little here. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #85

DU users themselves could probably research its legitimacy if the posts weren't immediately hidden. MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #88

Do you believe the photographer was careless on identifying the subjects of his work? TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #90

You have a lot of evidence in this thread, especially from links to R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #95

It is Rovian deutsey Feb 2016 #132

Look at the neck of the sweater.. K Gardner Feb 2016 #107

Sanders has not said it is him. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #110

Where's a link to Sanders statement on this photo? I've not seen it. cascadiance Feb 2016 #272

I've not seen it either. Nt NCTraveler Feb 2016 #316

I think if you saw a comment from Sanders it is probably more likely referring to this photo... cascadiance Feb 2016 #337

As I said, I haven't seen him comment. Nt NCTraveler Feb 2016 #362

The photographer who took the picture says that it's Bernie. Autumn Feb 2016 #120

Gee, I posted the fact that this was discussed by Chris Matthews last night and had it hidden... brooklynite Feb 2016 #121

I saw that. (nt) Skinner Feb 2016 #123

Can you undo these hides? mcar Feb 2016 #140

Some of us have enormous respect for Danny Lyon. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author TubbersUK Feb 2016 #172

Wow, I saw that Matthews piece last night and posted R B Garr Feb 2016 #307

you seriously believe a professional photographer doesn't know who he photographed? magical thyme Feb 2016 #122

^This^ nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #441

Was this a 'Single White Female' situation? Fronkonsteen Feb 2016 #127

Stuff about Danny Lyon, whom you are all smearing.... Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #130

I think I just did that. madfloridian Feb 2016 #144

This whole attack smacks of SWIFTBOATING... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Feb 2016 #147

Cast doubt on a man's life story and integrity, steal his past from him-- TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #153

No, we don't have "The Washington Post". We have Capehart who has now reduced... Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #151

so is it resolved now???? kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #154

. me b zola Feb 2016 #157

That is definitely Sanders. Beartracks Feb 2016 #198

It slays me that anybody who puroports to be liberal would attempt to diminish another me b zola Feb 2016 #361

Yep. No doubt in my mind it is Bernie. azmom Feb 2016 #448

I'm really curious if you got the info you were looking for and your assessment of it. MelissaB Feb 2016 #160

See my discussion with bunnies at the top of this thread. Skinner Feb 2016 #171

here are other photos from the same event azurnoir Feb 2016 #173

Skinner doesn't care Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #181

I'm wondering something else azurnoir Feb 2016 #182

Maybe its an infectious disease of Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #188

Jury results zeemike Feb 2016 #224

One Headlight Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #250

But you pulled on Superman's cape. zeemike Feb 2016 #282

I just threw the Iching Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #289

There is always irony in the Iching. zeemike Feb 2016 #298

Well the Iching is 64 bit technology from the ancients Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #308

The personality cult and assorted flypaper posts R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #470

Tantrum results. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #397

You actually made me stop and think, delrem Feb 2016 #480

Yes, I think DU is being used as a petri dish. delrem Feb 2016 #478

^^^^^That. Right there. What you said! ^^^^^^ ebayfool Feb 2016 #547

If it turns out that Brock and the Hillary campaign did this enigmatic Feb 2016 #548

Well... maybe Bernie lent Rappaport that sweater, shirt, shoes, watch, glasses, and book whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #191

and his face too I dunno maybe Capehart thinks azurnoir Feb 2016 #194

Bruce Rappaport is the guy in the light sweater to left of bernie. juxtaposed Feb 2016 #299

Could you please explain how Rappaport got into Bernie's clothes? Did you look at the Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #179

Everyone give a heart to the site Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #183

Not only did he get into Bernie's clothes, historylovr Feb 2016 #280

No benefit of doubt to the photographer? madfloridian Feb 2016 #190

No--the final conclusion is it's a rorschach test, open to interpretation. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #202

No "benefit of doubt" necessary. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #444

weasel words nt PaulaFarrell Feb 2016 #302

I believe that you are being disingenuous with that statement. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #406

Going with the FUD strategy? stranger81 Feb 2016 #451

I'd like you to update your answer since so much information passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #467

Intellectually dishonest of you to stick with that. TDale313 Feb 2016 #533

Yesterday, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. arcane1 Feb 2016 #539

Results LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #540

I was #6 MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #542

Wow i never thought i would see this day SwampG8r Feb 2016 #167

+1. sad day lasttrip Feb 2016 #237

Truthfully, there is no evidence that Sanders was NOT at that meeting. Hoyt Feb 2016 #168

How do we know that she might not evolve BACK to the anti-civil rights work... cascadiance Feb 2016 #293

Warren was a GOPer much longer than Clinton. I think Clinton's history is clear. Hoyt Feb 2016 #297

Warren being in the GOP isn't the issue. The issue in this thread is Bernie's civil rights record.. cascadiance Feb 2016 #342

Here are other photos from the same event azurnoir Feb 2016 #169

Anyone who criticizes or challenges Bernie is by definition a liar BainsBane Feb 2016 #170

You are a funny one... MelissaB Feb 2016 #174

More made-up bullshit. arcane1 Feb 2016 #228

Provide me one example BainsBane Feb 2016 #236

That's not what you posted. arcane1 Feb 2016 #240

LOL. I didn't think you could. BainsBane Feb 2016 #249

What confuses me is we have to put up with thread after thread of rightwing randys1 Feb 2016 #274

And yet you are trashing not just Bernie but Danny Lyon who is an artist Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #296

Who is trashing him? Surely you do NOT mean me? randys1 Feb 2016 #313

Well you are playing the 'all people are saying is they can't tell who it is, why hide that' crap. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #324

No, what I said was we have ENDLESS threads with rightwing memes about emails randys1 Feb 2016 #325

Right again! Anyone who dares question Bernie R B Garr Feb 2016 #515

Oh ffs! TDale313 Feb 2016 #534

It appears there were two Bernies and now it seems two photographers, from the photographer ucrdem Feb 2016 #177

He never claims that he is in the shot only identifying the person in the corner who some are claiming Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #184

THREE photographers. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #186

Two of which are Lyons: ucrdem Feb 2016 #196

I'll attribute it to poor writing. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #211

Lyons is the only witness we have so far and his testimony is contradictory. ucrdem Feb 2016 #215

He has to be in the room in order to take the picture. People are thus near him. n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #233

He says he's IN the picture that he took. ucrdem Feb 2016 #238

I think you are misreading what he is saying. arcane1 Feb 2016 #241

He says a friend is "next to me in the picture" that he says he took. ucrdem Feb 2016 #255

Which person in the photo is him? arcane1 Feb 2016 #263

If he's behind the camera, he's not "in the picture." ucrdem Feb 2016 #267

He's not saying he is "in the picture". He's saying the person near him is in the picture. arcane1 Feb 2016 #273

Those are his words. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #275

Next to me in the picture can mean close lower right in the corner in the foreground . Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #276

I'd give up if I were you. This poster is being deliberately obtuse. arcane1 Feb 2016 #278

Not unless he's using a fisheye lens and he isn't. ucrdem Feb 2016 #283

Yeah, as I typed it I thought about the time frame. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #291

Cameras have nifty little devices that help you do self photos passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #469

Change the punctuation with, perhaps, a couple more commas, viz: Petrushka Feb 2016 #312

Does it matter? Armstead Feb 2016 #178

That wasn't Hillary greeting the girl on the tarmac in Bosnia. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #208

It's a journalism thing. wildeyed Feb 2016 #383

I don't think they should be hidden. But this whole thing is bullshit Armstead Feb 2016 #386

JOURNALISM! wildeyed Feb 2016 #400

I hate to admit this...But that's what I do in real life Armstead Feb 2016 #410

Oh please. wildeyed Feb 2016 #422

We both agree it is a nothingburger...Let's just leave it at that Armstead Feb 2016 #423

Except the hides. wildeyed Feb 2016 #428

I already said I agree with you about the hides Armstead Feb 2016 #432

Done! wildeyed Feb 2016 #434

Thank you. femmedem Feb 2016 #530

As I see it TubbersUK Feb 2016 #180

Wow bringing out the big guns to make sure that berningman Feb 2016 #187

I see flames. Nonetheless, I'll opine here too. LiberalAndProud Feb 2016 #189

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #192

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #230

Same dudes... Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2016 #201

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Swift-boating Rovian ratfucking is what this is all about. delrem Feb 2016 #207

Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency? n/t n2doc Feb 2016 #209

He doesn't care any more Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #221

I really am shocked n2doc Feb 2016 #251

I use to think Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #264

I agree! I'll be reassessing as well. MelissaB Feb 2016 #266

Hey Skinner... OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #214

Have you bothered to find out what you obviously don't know about Danny Lyon? Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #225

If this isn't Bernie Sanders then who's been stealing his clothes Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #231

Next people will be saying he's not Rick. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #234

I have it on good authority Fronkonsteen Feb 2016 #243

Hey, leave me out of this! Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #270

Not answering the replies is an answer in and of itself Babel_17 Feb 2016 #244

Hit & Run jberryhill Feb 2016 #375

Kicking for exposure. frylock Feb 2016 #245

I think the whole photograph thing is called the kitchen sink. Hillary and her superpacs will do MelissaB Feb 2016 #254

Kicking for exposure n/t TubbersUK Feb 2016 #258

The jury system works Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #261

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Please share. seaotter Feb 2016 #288

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I'm not arguing that the person in the photo isn't Bernie Sanders. Skinner Feb 2016 #292

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Which is why he's needed to keep it "disputed" jberryhill Feb 2016 #381

You're in a tight spot because the MSM is telling us we're not seeing what we are seeing. Vinca Feb 2016 #306

This is certainly a key thing Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #497

We all get to have our own opinions but we don't get to make up our own facts. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #309

Oh, they did their jobs all right! But their job wasn't objective journalism n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #326

I think somebody has said repeatedly in ATA in regard to the jury system Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #310

Perhaps too many Hillary posters are getting their R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #486

Shameful post Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #314

YES! because people are using this nontraversy to smear a good man! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #322

The reason I bring this up... Skinner Feb 2016 #351

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I dunno. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #407

So you are comfortable with juries hiding this if it is posted? (nt) Skinner Feb 2016 #409

I'm comfortable with people 'taking their chances'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #411

If you were on a jury would you vote to hide it? (nt) Skinner Feb 2016 #412

I haven't been yet. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #414

How about if the post said this: Skinner Feb 2016 #421

Look, if you're looking for a reason to try Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #424

Im not trying to call you unreasonable. Skinner Feb 2016 #429

Question not addressed to me, but I wouldn't. delrem Feb 2016 #487

In the current context? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #499

We expect Republicans to swiftboat and ratfuck Dems. delrem Feb 2016 #564

And that's why DUers are understandably angry. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #488

"would get their posts hidden simply for sharing an article from a mainstream news source" joshcryer Feb 2016 #501

Facts trump opinions. SalviaBlue Feb 2016 #350

Obama's birthplace is "in dispute" jberryhill Feb 2016 #378

so you are OK with conspiracy theories now passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #471

Hasn't this site had purges of individuals in the past R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #477

Yes they have enigmatic Feb 2016 #479

I was being rhetorical, but TY all the same. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #482

That for me was the worst enigmatic Feb 2016 #483

There's been a few hides here tonight. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #484

Here's the thing, man. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #284

Adding my +1000 before the attempted /or hide. MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #301

"approached the Sanders phenomenon as a problem to be "solved"" arcane1 Feb 2016 #305

Because of the internet warriors who keep circulating R B Garr Feb 2016 #317

Sure. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #332

It makes a difference to the extent his campaign is R B Garr Feb 2016 #360

Translation: Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #365

Ha, that's funny, considering this whole phony conspiracy R B Garr Feb 2016 #395

This crap about the photo has been going on for longer than that. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #399

Hardly. This became an "issue" since the John Lewis R B Garr Feb 2016 #404

Again ... Fascinating Trajan Feb 2016 #563

!! ^^^^ This ^^^^^ !! LiberalAndProud Feb 2016 #318

Well said. nt lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #339

Nailed it! neverforget Feb 2016 #349

superb. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #465

Absolutely. People are tired of dirty "Machievellian" politics newthinking Feb 2016 #495

Partial Bio- Danny Lyon, photographer Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #287

Thank you for discussing the passionate work of Danny Lyon. myrna minx Feb 2016 #403

I can't believe this post was alerted on, 1-6 to leave. nt betsuni Feb 2016 #295

It's always been considered fair to game the refs... catnhatnh Feb 2016 #300

It's the Rodney King Video Syndrome: What you see is not what you get, sez the jury. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #303

YIKES! There really are TWO of THEM... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #311

So "true" is now the gold standard of civility? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #315

Bernie & Super Tues in Texas TBF Feb 2016 #319

It was Bernie Gore1FL Feb 2016 #320

Agitating for Justice and Freedom With a Camera- story with 9 photos by Danny Lyon Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #329

'that may not be Bernie in the photo..." "I based my decision on credible information..." islandmkl Feb 2016 #333

I'm just posting to say I was in this thread. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #338

LOL SalviaBlue Feb 2016 #354

I was here, too. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2016 #372

Same here Milestone Feb 2016 #385

Welcome to DU, Milestone! (Well, posting at DU anyway) MelissaB Feb 2016 #388

Yeah, it sure reminds me of a certain something..... nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #435

Hi guys rbrnmw Feb 2016 #437

I want my money back iwillalwayswonderwhy Feb 2016 #345

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In lieu of DU hearts, I suggest people make donations to Bernie in honor of DU. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #370

+1 Kittycat Feb 2016 #485

Here -Here is his blog. There is a link to contact him - Go ahead & ask him if he is a liar. jillan Feb 2016 #347

I think there are too many.. one_voice Feb 2016 #364

I like the little trashcan thingy wildeyed Feb 2016 #391

Hard to believe you are adding to the cesspool that this meme has become. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #371

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You looking for pizza, dude? MelissaB Feb 2016 #377

With-- geologic Feb 2016 #380

Take a deep breath. Walk away for a while. MelissaB Feb 2016 #387

lol... one_voice Feb 2016 #396

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Dropping in to say "Kudzu - it's going places..." alittlelark Feb 2016 #405

Skinner, who do you believe Aerows Feb 2016 #413

He's just been posting on this thread enigmatic Feb 2016 #418

I want to hear what he thinks. Aerows Feb 2016 #420

I think it is probably Bernie Sanders. Skinner Feb 2016 #419

The photgrapher says it's him. enigmatic Feb 2016 #425

"And the thought of hiding that alternate belief of it is posted here concerns me." wildeyed Feb 2016 #426

Is this like Aerows Feb 2016 #427

You have more information TubbersUK Feb 2016 #430

Yes, I have read all of the posts in this thread. Skinner Feb 2016 #439

What "loose ends"? enigmatic Feb 2016 #442

Jeff Weaver just confirmed it's Bernie enigmatic Feb 2016 #445

Some explanation for the fact that... Skinner Feb 2016 #452

Please. This whole thing is crazy. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #456

Crazy as flypaper in a chicken coup. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #475

I think bernie is being swift boated DoBotherMe Feb 2016 #454

^^^^ Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #457

If it is enigmatic Feb 2016 #459

Thanks for the open mind! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #506

"And the thought of hiding that alternate belief of it is posted here concerns me." Why... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #466

Censoring the truth is unhealthy for Democracy. Censoring deliberate lies made up by propagandists Zorra Feb 2016 #436

Well, let's look at this in an analytical way and examine two photos: The Straight Story Feb 2016 #438

You've convinced me. Skinner Feb 2016 #462

Skinner, many have complained about the jury system for years Oilwellian Feb 2016 #476

+1 DU was better when there were moderators Matariki Feb 2016 #526

OMFG Skinner finally is unhappy about hidden posts. Gee, wonder what is different this time. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #503

Maybe one of his favorite socks or trolls got a hide. cui bono Feb 2016 #512

Update your OP then Kittycat Feb 2016 #507

Agreed, the OP is now faced with contradictory facts Babel_17 Feb 2016 #516

Care to update with a link to the primary source's clarification? Barack_America Feb 2016 #474

Alerted. cui bono Feb 2016 #492

You're not the first...and the alert will go...right to...the administrators. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #494

I was actually just kidding. But I probably should have. cui bono Feb 2016 #510

I don't know why there's a controversy over the picture. pacalo Feb 2016 #493

All the shit that gets flung around this site and THIS is where you make a stand? zigby Feb 2016 #496

Welcome to DU Fumesucker Feb 2016 #498

+1 cui bono Feb 2016 #513

+1,000,000 nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #514

+1000. SixString Feb 2016 #535

Camp Weathervane only speak of UNITY when they think she's down. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #538

Dear Skinner. I can't tell you where it was first debunked, but PatrickforO Feb 2016 #502

Meta. n/t demmiblue Feb 2016 #504

Interesting looking at these two side by side. He is wearing the same swetter and under shirt. Quixote1818 Feb 2016 #508

The University of Chicago Photographic Archive changed their caption back to Bernie Sanders... xocet Feb 2016 #517

I'm not holding my breath passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #546

Photo archive now says it's Sanders. mainer Feb 2016 #518

Yes, but...still need more proof...none of this is decisive...things are open to interpretation... TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #519

Yes, this was a really an illconceived line of attack Quixote1818 Feb 2016 #520

Wonder if Nick had anything to do with the smear? UglyGreed Feb 2016 #521

Are you still Just Asking Questions? arcane1 Feb 2016 #522

You have all the facts now enigmatic Feb 2016 #523

THANK YOU to the jury who hid the post for refusing to let DU become part of the MSM smear machine Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #524

I wonder who else bought into this smear ... Babel_17 Feb 2016 #525

"Bought" being a key word here. arcane1 Feb 2016 #541

You should self-delete this OP. You are embarassing yourself. eom Purveyor Feb 2016 #527

Or he could edit it and leave it up. It's fun and educational. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #528

First, what are we "debunking?" Did Bernie ever say it was him? Second, who are you going to merrily Feb 2016 #531

Kicking for exposing the swiftboating and those perpetuating the smear me b zola Feb 2016 #532

Shine a light on all of those here and in the media enigmatic Feb 2016 #536

Skinner you owe the site an apology for defending this disgusting smear Bjorn Against Feb 2016 #537

+1. Even Capehart has withdrawn his claim. Skinner should too. Electric Monk Feb 2016 #543

Not going to let this fall off the first page enigmatic Feb 2016 #544

If we're to go all "Fair and Balancy" catnhatnh Feb 2016 #549

kick enigmatic Feb 2016 #550

Skinner, you are FAR more patient than I Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #551

Why is this post still around? tularetom Feb 2016 #552

University of Chicago CORRECTS photo archives. Confirms it is Sanders. senz Feb 2016 #553

Probably has been said before, but we wouldn't be in the place we are now on this issue... redgreenandblue Feb 2016 #554

Kicking an eye-opening thread. SixString Feb 2016 #555

Since this pack of lies, we've had 'Reagan was an AIDS activist' and 'They threw chairs and Bluenorthwest May 2016 #565