2016 Postmortem

HassleCat

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56. I have seen the plan

Reply to ProudToBeLiberal (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:20 AM

Feb 2016

It has one excellent provision, which is the promise to help people maintain their health benefits so they can deal with black lung disease and other problems plaguing coal miners. It also picks up pension payments when the coal companies dump their pension plans, but this is already being done for corporate pension plans in general, so it's not big news. There is a great deal of other rhetoric and fluff in there, but nothing substantial.

Want to help coal miners and their families? How about expanding MSHA and enforcing safety regulations? How about seizing assets when coal companies kill their employees? How about prosecuting company officials for paying off inspectors and ignoring orders to improve safety?

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When will Bernie Sanders make a commitment and have a plan to help the coal communities? [View all] ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 OP

Clinton sends out her little minions to come up with something Saint Hillary will take care of Skwmom Feb 2016 #1

I am asking a legitimate question. Coal communities are in really bad shape. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #4

Your concern is duly noted (nt) CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #5

Coffee we are on the same side. Imagine if the corn in Iowa had no use and value ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #6

It is, but Camp Clinton isn't doing this because they give a damn about the poor coal miners and Skwmom Feb 2016 #11

Do you have proof that she doesn't care about coal miners? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #15

If Clinton gave a damn about average American familes the two for the price of one couple wouldn't Skwmom Feb 2016 #19

They find some niche group and pretend they are said group's savior. With Bernie's healthcare plan Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #59

That's actually a great question Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #2

I also have questions on what solutions has Bernie offered for Flint ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #10

Hillary had her minions prepare steps for Flint. Hope Bernie talks about how Flint ended up in such Skwmom Feb 2016 #13

When will Bernie Sanders buy me a new car? dchill Feb 2016 #3

I am asking a simple question. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #7

That's right! If Bernie can't solve every problem in this country then it's all over for him! CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #8

Can you show more empathy for coal miners and their families? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #9

HRC pretense of empathy for ANYONE... dchill Feb 2016 #12

I wish them well. I hope they innovate. Maybe solar or wind? (nt) CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #14

Oh, I'd much rather focus on WHAT has driven so many families into poverty in the first place. If Skwmom Feb 2016 #17

So, you are saying bad trade agreements is what led to coal communities dying? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #23

Nope. That was just an example. The world is moving away from coal - even China. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #25

Ok, so what are Bernie's specific plan to help the communities of coal. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #29

Something that works, or sucks like HRC's plan? TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #16

Did you read the article? If you did then tell me why you think her plan won't work? ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #21

It's your OP, you defend it. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #38

You posted the article not me. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #39

You just want others to do your work. I bet you didn't read it. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #42

What if I told you that I did. Would that surprise you? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #44

Yes. I don't go into detail, because I've learned that only objective people listen. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #46

If I told you that your comment wounded me deeply would you reconsider your post? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #50

Multiply Coal Country by about 70 percent of America Armstead Feb 2016 #18

So what are his specific plans to help the coal communities? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #20

I don't know. Go fucking ask him Armstead Feb 2016 #22

You are talking about manufacturing when it comes to the rust belt and New England, right? ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #27

A mix of the same-old and "I'll believe it when I see it" stuff Armstead Feb 2016 #37

You are good. Good at spinning. I'll give you that. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #41

It's not spinning -- It's the results of years of observing this stuff professionally Armstead Feb 2016 #45

I think we can be frank with each other. Some are really good at spinning. You're a pro. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #48

Well I'll take that as a compliment -- but disagree that it is spinning Armstead Feb 2016 #49

Can you give me a compliment too? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #52

You spin wonderfully? Armstead Feb 2016 #63

Thank you. I am the student while you are the master. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #65

+1,000,0000. Skwmom Feb 2016 #24

I will give you an honest answer to this question. He already has. Lochloosa Feb 2016 #26

So, he's offering a one size fits all plan? Wtf... ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #28

Wow..that is what you got out of that? Lochloosa Feb 2016 #30

Fine, link me to an article where he specifically addresses the struggle of coal communities. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #31

Apparently you aren't familiar with jen63 Feb 2016 #43

His plan to rebuild the nation's crumbling infrastructure shawn703 Feb 2016 #40

His plan to spend $1 trillion on new infrastructure jfern Feb 2016 #32

Is there anything you cannot forge into a criticism? It is getting tiresome. nt mikehiggins Feb 2016 #33

I was thinking about writing an article on Bernie's lack of specific solutions for Flint. ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #36

What is Hillary's solution for Flint other than a photo op? The real issue with Flint is it is jillan Feb 2016 #60

He's said something about transitioning fossil fuel workers into green jobs fwiff Feb 2016 #34

K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #35

Ask Micheal Briggs pat_k Feb 2016 #47

I would like to hear from Bernie. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #53

Your query could prompt him to specifically raise it. pat_k Feb 2016 #61

I supported Howard Dean in 2004. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #62

:) pat_k Feb 2016 #64

I want a pony! jillan Feb 2016 #51

When is Hillary gonna come up with a plan to replace all the jobs outsourced to china, vietnam, litlbilly Feb 2016 #54

When is he going to address the concerns of farriers? That's what I want to know! HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #55

You should ask Lincoln Chafee. He went to farrier school. Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #57

I have seen the plan HassleCat Feb 2016 #56

You offer some good proposals. So, Bernie has been silent on this issue? Nt ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #58