2016 Postmortem

basselope

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105. He owned it quite nicely on the debate stage.

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:57 AM

Feb 2016

Its sad that he had to explain to people that in a democracy it is not a horrible thing for a Senator to disagree with a sitting President.

It really IS the job.. but people are just so used to yes men and women and politicians who blindly follow w/o thought I guess you believe they can't understand when someone is actually fighting for them.

I give them far more credit.

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Video proof of Bernie calling for a primary challenge to Obama in 2012. [View all] Dawson Leery Feb 2016 OP

Is that in question? We all know he did and we know the reason why. Autumn Feb 2016 #1

I can't believe this OP stupidity--challenge is great to refocus attention & energize the base! nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #41

It's holding ones feet to the fire...that's what Obama said to do. Autumn Feb 2016 #43

We lost really bad in 2010. earthshine Feb 2016 #45

People will tell you that it is perfectly fine bravenak Feb 2016 #2

Let's give it a shot. Elect Bernie and if he is not liberal enough, we primary him. Vincardog Feb 2016 #28

No thanks bravenak Feb 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #39

Let me understand your reasoning for not voting for Bernie. Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #74

You. His fans. bravenak Feb 2016 #112

So you are not voting for Bernie based on his supporters? Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #113

I do not join in on this type of stuff bravenak Feb 2016 #114

I like Jill Stein too. Too bad she didn't run as a dem, but I know why she didn't. JRLeft Feb 2016 #107

Help CincyDem Feb 2016 #3

They have not said shit about it bigdarryl Feb 2016 #6

reminds me of a line from and old DeNiro/Duvall movie. NSFW (a little) CincyDem Feb 2016 #21

Why on earth would they deny it? cyberswede Feb 2016 #52

He owned it passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #69

And we should care because...? winter is coming Feb 2016 #4

this ^^^^ demosocialist Feb 2016 #30

+1 deutsey Feb 2016 #46

It hurts the party in power and always has... that's why, facts matter... Carter uponit7771 Feb 2016 #71

Claiming that Carter's loss is down to Kennedy's challenge is ludicrous. winter is coming Feb 2016 #84

Could you name a time in History where the priimary challenge has helped? tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #85

Without parallel universes, that's an exercise in speculation. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #87

Sounds to me like he's doing more than just calling for a primary challenge firebrand80 Feb 2016 #5

+1 Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #10

Well, that's a good get. He said Obama was weak LisaM Feb 2016 #27

He also accused Obama of MOVING RIGHT. Hortensis Feb 2016 #59

Obama was talking about cutting social security and Bernie was pissed passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #67

Thank you for setting Karma13612 Feb 2016 #90

Video proof of Hillary's campaign against Obama... daleanime Feb 2016 #7

And? cyberswede Feb 2016 #8

lets see if you mobyz Feb 2016 #20

My opinions about important things don't change when the wind blows cyberswede Feb 2016 #23

Thank you bravenak Feb 2016 #26

Three posts and youre already lecturing DUers about what goes on around here. bunnies Feb 2016 #29

The truth hurts... mobyz Feb 2016 #42

No that's the MIRT Paulie Feb 2016 #89

Sounds good to me. earthshine Feb 2016 #50

... and Sanders should be making sure he tells everyone in the SEC states he wanted Obama challenged uponit7771 Feb 2016 #72

Ok. cyberswede Feb 2016 #88

we'll see if Sanders clings ti what he said or run away from it uponit7771 Feb 2016 #91

Amazing. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #9

" this posts has been hidden by a DU Jury" DanTex. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #12

Nailed it! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #16

wow just wow. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #11

I know! Democracy sux!!!1! cyberswede Feb 2016 #25

Omg!! jkbRN Feb 2016 #13

Clinton's assassination remark about Obama PonyUp Feb 2016 #14

Which was forgiven by Obama and forgiving by a lot of others too. uponit7771 Feb 2016 #73

Did you forgive her for assassination remark and Bernie for primary challenge? PonyUp Feb 2016 #79

Obama picked her for SoS, so HE... forgave her that much and no I'm not forgiving someone uponit7771 Feb 2016 #86

Democracy Be Damned fredamae Feb 2016 #15

Clinton campaign against Obama... daleanime Feb 2016 #17

Were you operating under the illusion people were denying he did this? jeff47 Feb 2016 #18

MANY OF US called for a primary challenger to Obama. basselope Feb 2016 #19

Like me! nt earthshine Feb 2016 #53

Good, you guys willing to make sure everyone in the SEC states knows this like Sanders will? uponit7771 Feb 2016 #75

I'll sing it proudly from the rooftop. basselope Feb 2016 #92

GREAT!!! Lets make sure Sanders owns his years of consummate bashing of Obama in the SEC.. uponit7771 Feb 2016 #93

He owned it quite nicely on the debate stage. basselope Feb 2016 #105

I would have voted for the challenger. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #99

Perhaps Bernie has heard of dire problems many face..... UglyGreed Feb 2016 #22

Obama: "Now go out and make me do it!" Fawke Em Feb 2016 #24

The answer always has something to do with Clinton08 bravenak Feb 2016 #31

So what? Fuddnik Feb 2016 #33

I cannot imagine why this would affect my support for Bernie, or change the fact that I djean111 Feb 2016 #34

I wanted him primaried as well. Not because I didn't like or respect him as President but Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #35

Same here deutsey Feb 2016 #48

You must be a bad Democrat too! nt Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #49

I've been a bad, bad Dem deutsey Feb 2016 #54

Nothing wrong with it at all. LisaM Feb 2016 #63

I knew there was proof. SamKnause Feb 2016 #36

This was four years ago... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #37

Thanks for posting this Gothmog Feb 2016 #38

Well MSNBC's online UglyGreed Feb 2016 #40

K sheshe2 Feb 2016 #47

. UglyGreed Feb 2016 #64

The criticism of Obama on a regular basis on DU passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #76

Bullchit. It was a conversation on how to bring Obama back to The People. senz Feb 2016 #44

The scraping of the bottom of the barrel has corroded it to the point deutsey Feb 2016 #51

Yep, better put on our waders senz Feb 2016 #58

Correct senz ! Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #56

"He was brainstorming ways to get Obama's attention" Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #57

Correct,and I've posted the rest of Hartman's show in this thread twice now passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #78

Who doubted this, if I may ask? nt valerief Feb 2016 #55

I was talking primary challenge myself and for the same reason/s. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #60

So what? I don't care. 840high Feb 2016 #61

Yes. He took a principled stand. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #62

So what? 99Forever Feb 2016 #65

I would have supported a major challenge bigwillq Feb 2016 #66

Bye, Scalia! JackBeck Feb 2016 #118

This is an short clip that cuts off the whole beginning of the show passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #68

Did we Bernie supporters ever doubt he did? retrowire Feb 2016 #70

Look, Sanders will MAKE SURE everyone in the SEC states knows he wanted Obama challenged for the uponit7771 Feb 2016 #77

And he had a valid reason for saying it passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #80

I disagree, Sanders is yelling at the bus driver for not going through stop and go traffic uponit7771 Feb 2016 #81

You did not watch the show clip I provided, did you? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #83

?.......... come on meta shouldnt always be used uponit7771 Feb 2016 #94

If you watched the clip of the Hartmann interview, passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #95

It wasn't just one or two interviews its been three years of consummate bashing... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #97

To you it's bashing passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #106

Its bashing cause Sanders isn't proffering anything much better. He's being very unspecific... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #108

You are welcome to your opinion passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #111

Not everybody does this ridiculously creepy politician personality cult thing! m-lekktor Feb 2016 #100

no one should go un-challenged ever it is what makes democracies work juxtaposed Feb 2016 #82

All the more reason to vote Bernie. He stands on progressive principles ... ThePhilosopher04 Feb 2016 #96

Thank you for showing Bernie is a man of principle libtodeath Feb 2016 #98

Choice Is Good -- Coronations Are Bad cantbeserious Feb 2016 #101

This meme needs to fuck off. The people have the right to choose the President every 4 years. Bonobo Feb 2016 #102

they are like a broken fucking record with this whiney obama personality cult horseshit. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #117

He wasn't king, he was president. Perogie Feb 2016 #103

Well so what? Zambero Feb 2016 #104

Thank you, H2O Man Feb 2016 #109

Bill Clinton reportedly encouraged Hillary to challenge Obama in 2012. So there's that. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #110

Video proof of Clinton challenging Obama in 2008 primaries. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #115

Why do you think he's running against an Obama third term now? TransitJohn Feb 2016 #116