2016 Postmortem

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215. I switched from Indy to Dem ONLY to caucus for Bernie

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Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:04 PM

Feb 2016

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I'm rescinding my pledge to vote for whom ever the Democratic nominee for POTUS is. [View all] Snotcicles Feb 2016 OP

Welcome. SamKnause Feb 2016 #1

Snoticles has been here since 2004 and has over 7K comments. Not exactly a newbie. senz Feb 2016 #15

I posted in the wrong spot. SamKnause Feb 2016 #23

lol -- yeah, that's happened to me too. senz Feb 2016 #28

How many windows do you have open? Kalidurga Feb 2016 #114

Snoticles: SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #207

. merrily Feb 2016 #226

Guess you should have run a better canidate. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #247

I certainly don't see how the party can come together after all the negative campaigning. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #2

I think they are better candidates when we hold our cards closer to the vest. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #4

That's a good point, agree, but I'll lay my cards Hortensis Feb 2016 #181

This is terribly unfortunate. The difference between any GOP candidate and Hillary Clinton is Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #40

I agree, but both HRC and the GOP are going to take the country farther to the right Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #62

Jackie and Kelvin, great posts. erlewyne Feb 2016 #78

Nonsense. comparing Hillary to the GOP shows either a lack of understanding Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #82

Both have taken the country to the right, it is just a question of degree Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #97

If someone asked you for a pledge, they had no business so doing and you had no need to respond. merrily Feb 2016 #227

She is Farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #258

Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, Nixon Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #262

Well said Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #265

1000000 times agreed dbackjon Feb 2016 #117

Those who don't see that Third Way Dems are what moderate Republicans were, like Reagan, cui bono Feb 2016 #154

Thank you! Change has come Feb 2016 #167

Yes, that is why Sanders and Clinton dbackjon Feb 2016 #216

I don't believe they do. And on the big one, money in politics, which controls the game, cui bono Feb 2016 #222

or just childishness saturnsring Feb 2016 #120

GOP Advisor Henry Kissinger PADemD Feb 2016 #135

God I hope so...Is she on record saying he is one of her advisers? Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #136

Kissinger didn't advise the GOP, too? PADemD Feb 2016 #137

You are missing the huge differences, or the big picture, why? Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #138

That's BS. Hillary was one of the ten most liberal Senators redstateblues Feb 2016 #201

I will not vote for Hillary, period. (nt) Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #94

Then vote for Cruz world wide wally Feb 2016 #157

Or Trump -- he's honest and sincere. Hortensis Feb 2016 #183

I take your post as Sarcasim Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #267

I Like the way you think Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #263

You have to...because Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #260

Of course if you're a brown kid in another country, there's no real difference between them. JoeyT Feb 2016 #99

Shhh. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #198

Your post is so incredibly offensive you are automatically going on my ignore list and by the liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #101

But let's think about it logically. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #104

Great post! ybbor Feb 2016 #178

A vote for Bernie is a vote for progressive policies both in the area of social JDPriestly Feb 2016 #236

Thank you! True Blue American Feb 2016 #177

Are you attempting the Madeline Albright thing? Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #196

I'm sure you know the saying, "You get what you vote for." There is another one that also applies.. Purrfessor Feb 2016 #211

I agree completely with this Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #217

Read my post before you post. True Blue American Feb 2016 #233

I agree with you Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #269

I never mentioned True Blue American Feb 2016 #231

My comment was not addressed to any specific person. Purrfessor Feb 2016 #239

Yes! Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote OR Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #257

no offense but if u think this is significanct negative campainging NoMoreRepugs Feb 2016 #88

I know what to expect from Republicans. I just never expected Democrats to campaign the same way. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #89

It will for the general when 3 more Alitos on the bench are a real possibility Volaris Feb 2016 #200

Well said... Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #272

I think we can Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #254

I will vote for Bernie but I am not a Democrat and I will not just come together just because liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #261

Well, Thank you for Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #271

I will join you with a similar pledge in solidarity. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #3

I will make no pledge as long as Hillary remains a candidate. If that changes, only then will I Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #7

Brilliant, isn't it? lol nt. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #10

Lol, well you can vote GOP! Wall Street loves them also! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #172

Please vote Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #266

Should it be any other way? HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #134

My Vote Will Be For Any Democratic Candidate. cynzke Feb 2016 #188

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #268

Ok. I recind my pledge as well bravenak Feb 2016 #5

Maybe their VP choices will be better Politicalboi Feb 2016 #6

Who will it be then? Not voting or voting third party or clown car occupant? brush Feb 2016 #8

That's the point keep them guessing keep them on their toes. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #16

Depends on your state. hifiguy Feb 2016 #87

Well, you can thank Queen Pantsuit for alienating everybody. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #133

That is the kind of post that True Blue American Feb 2016 #244

Don't read it if you don't like it. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #245

No, I like to see just how True Blue American Feb 2016 #246

I agree let's Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #273

I simply will not comment anymore on what I'll do with my vote cali Feb 2016 #9

I've decided that as well. nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #12

^^ Most intelligent comment ^^ senz Feb 2016 #19

I presume Bloomberg will be counted as a Dem for the site ToS when the time comes MisterP Feb 2016 #93

Charlie crist sure as hell was SwampG8r Feb 2016 #123

And I will do the same. Duval Feb 2016 #85

I'm down with that catnhatnh Feb 2016 #11

I Pledge to use Pledge Lemon scented furniture polish. As long as Hillary remains cannidate. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #13

It's called Lemon Pledge Politicalboi Feb 2016 #54

Thanks! I couldnt remember what it was. Have bottles of it and it just escaped me. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #60

That stuff is slippery. HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #139

OMG....... you got me good. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #147

I'm gay, so I'll vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is Onlooker Feb 2016 #14

Yup. I will proudly support either as our nominee. It's not a loyalty oath, it's common sense. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #17

Yeah, I have committed to work hard for either this fall, instead of getting involved now. bettyellen Feb 2016 #30

"Flipping congress is a revolutionary act, staying home is bullshit." Hortensis Feb 2016 #184

Thank you. I think it is great when you have new energy..... bettyellen Feb 2016 #225

Agree! True Blue American Feb 2016 #234

I am with you PeaceNikki Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #270

My Millennial daughter is bisexual. She wanted to be a Democrat so she could support liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #18

Hopefully, she'll reconsider Onlooker Feb 2016 #29

She is bisexual. Do you think she doesn't know about how the government handled the liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #42

it's politics Onlooker Feb 2016 #56

She's in her early twenties. She's a Millennial. The whole that's politics argument liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #68

Well, her efforts on social justice is more important than her vote. Onlooker Feb 2016 #70

Thank you. It sounded from your post like you may have lost some friends to AIDS. If that is so, liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #72

Thanks. It was all around back then. Onlooker Feb 2016 #74

I would hope that Churchill is not literally Bernie's hero. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2016 #241

The Constitution gives the right to conduct Presidental elections to the states Samantha Feb 2016 #161

yeah, those who's say "Burn it down!" have no concern about the Supreme Court or our future. bettyellen Feb 2016 #20

Do you honestly think Hillary would get ANY nominee for SCOTUS past a Republican Senate? hobbit709 Feb 2016 #33

Of course she would. And I believe she would choose very wisely. Why do you say that? bettyellen Feb 2016 #38

If you gotta ask you will never understand. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #41

So Republicans like what Sanders stands for better- where is the evidence for that? bettyellen Feb 2016 #44

That evidence is here pinebox Feb 2016 #213

One republican senator who has trashed him in the past? Not sure what this has to do w/ Supreme bettyellen Feb 2016 #224

You want more pinebox Feb 2016 #229

I don't trust "lifelong conservatives". Why do you? bettyellen Feb 2016 #230

Republicans crossing over? pinebox Feb 2016 #232

He got 2 good ones in and she will, too. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #45

What was the makeup of the Senate in 2009 and 2010? What is it now? hobbit709 Feb 2016 #51

And what will it be in 2017? PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #59

The way things are going in the red states, I wouldn't try holding my breath. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #61

I wouldn't either, but I *AM* voting Democratic. No matter what. Proudly. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #66

Right! Bernie knows his way around the senate far better and knows how to get things done. JudyM Feb 2016 #63

Yeah, that's been the slogan since the beginning Orrex Feb 2016 #79

Take a look at the community clinic funding in ACA. That was all him, working behind the scenes JudyM Feb 2016 #124

Tell us about the nominees that Sanders will get past the Senate, and tell us how. Orrex Feb 2016 #81

Tell us about the nominees that Clinton will get past the Senate, and tell us how. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #92

The gauntlet was thrown down by Sanders' cheerleaders Orrex Feb 2016 #98

right. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #103

I really hope that you don't represent the best of Sanders' supporters Orrex Feb 2016 #113

tit meet tat and on ignore you go. silly boy. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #119

How will Hillary get SCOTUS nominees Hortensis Feb 2016 #187

While I, of course, disagree, I appreciate your honesty and adult attitude to answering my Hiraeth Feb 2016 #202

Have you not been paying attention? zalinda Feb 2016 #204

With Republican support like this pinebox Feb 2016 #214

Obama got Kagan and Sotomayor. Of course HRC will get nominees through. Hekate Feb 2016 #169

Who was in the majority in 2009 and 2010? hobbit709 Feb 2016 #191

When you go to buy a car do you announce you will pay any price as long as you get a blue one? nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #22

I'm in a state Clinton can not win. jeff47 Feb 2016 #24

Same here... Contrary1 Feb 2016 #55

I look at your argument this way Onlooker Feb 2016 #67

Still a "feel better" argument. It does not change the overall result. jeff47 Feb 2016 #69

I understand where you're coming from. It makes good sense. senz Feb 2016 #26

And you post an image of FDR? Onlooker Feb 2016 #43

At this time in this country, we desperately need FDR's economic fairness. senz Feb 2016 #71

The Clinton's are friends to gays Onlooker Feb 2016 #76

Suuurreee... because druidity33 Feb 2016 #148

That reply overrules all others IMO Orrex Feb 2016 #73

I am with you Onlooker Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #259

I think this is rather silly. sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #21

Alert result 1-6 LEAVE IT hobbit709 Feb 2016 #25

#5. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #164

My options are... SHRED Feb 2016 #27

I don't much like Bernie, and I REALLY don't like many of his supporters words, actions, or thinking farmboy Feb 2016 #31

Then please carry on zalinda Feb 2016 #208

Then they will get what they deserve. It happened in 2000; it happened in 1980. A country... NNadir Feb 2016 #285

For decades we have not been given a choice on who to vote for zalinda Feb 2016 #286

For decades, 1980-1992, 2000-2008 we had the WORST of two evils. NNadir Feb 2016 #287

GOPers say thanks. I pledge to support the Democratic nominee without reservation. Hoyt Feb 2016 #32

At this point in time Bernie doesnt deserve my vote Sheepshank Feb 2016 #34

We Us Together - Vs - Me MyBank And I -- The 1% Will Not Be Denied cantbeserious Feb 2016 #35

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #36

Good description of Bernie's approach, as well. senz Feb 2016 #46

. firebrand80 Feb 2016 #37

Certainly the "Third Way" attitude. senz Feb 2016 #47

It' like the PUMA people last time firebrand80 Feb 2016 #53

Things will change. It may not be this election cycle, but Millennials are not party loyalists and liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #86

This millennial will be voting for the Democratic nominee, even if it's Bernie. kjones Feb 2016 #162

Good for you. Every Millennial I have talked to including my daughter and her friends are liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #168

Good for them, I'm bet they're the political pride of their campuses kjones Feb 2016 #170

That's exactly what I'm doing. I'll make my decisions when the time comes. closeupready Feb 2016 #39

Bernie has already stressed handmade34 Feb 2016 #48

Not pouting, pledging allegiance, is for the flag. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #52

I have errands to run BBL. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #49

It's weird that I don't read a lot of HRC supporters saying they won't vote for Bernie Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #50

I rescinded a vow, I didn't replace it. YET! nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #57

Just an observation on the situation, Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #64

One of the major differences between the "camps" is their approach to authority. jeff47 Feb 2016 #107

Nah, people who don't vote for the Dem nominee don't care about anyone but themselves. They seaglass Feb 2016 #125

This would be another indication of the vast gulf between the two camps. jeff47 Feb 2016 #126

Yes, that was just what you were doing as you characterized Clinton supporters as sheep. seaglass Feb 2016 #129

Hrm...I can't seem to find the word sheep in my post....how odd. jeff47 Feb 2016 #130

I assumed you were familiar with people being described as sheep for seaglass Feb 2016 #142

Bingo! RiverLover Feb 2016 #58

I rescind my pledge too. MoonRiver Feb 2016 #65

Agree completely Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #75

Saying nothing bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #77

If Hillary wins the nomination with pledged delegates, I will inevitably vote for her. plus5mace Feb 2016 #80

I Am A Bernie Guy Who Would Not Hesitate To Vote For Hillary scottie55 Feb 2016 #83

Please do not insult Neanderthals. They were very intelligent beings. HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #140

Sorry (Neanderthals) scottie55 Feb 2016 #153

In my neck of the woods True Blue American Feb 2016 #289

President Cruz thanks you for your support dbackjon Feb 2016 #84

going on ignore list. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #115

Awesome!!! President Cruz thanks you for that, as well. dbackjon Feb 2016 #116

It won't be Cruz. HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #141

Oh geesh. Cutting off your nose soon? nt Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2016 #90

it's very dangerous for voters to say "my criticisms are actually meaningless" MisterP Feb 2016 #91

Might want to change your sig there. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #95

Done. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #100

O.K...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #96

self delete uhnope Feb 2016 #102

Votes have to be earned. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #105

I disagree strongly, as does Bernie. But still respect you, Snots. I think we need to be real about bettyellen Feb 2016 #106

You all can make assumptions of what I will or won't do. I just think it is not Snotcicles Feb 2016 #108

The assumptions here fly fast and furious. I get the Hillary shill because I oppose the RW smears. bettyellen Feb 2016 #110

Join the club! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #109

We'll have to see how bad the stench is one the primary is over. CentralMass Feb 2016 #111

Would you be willing to share who it was that you voted for in 2008? hamsterjill Feb 2016 #112

No. It is more from letting people make assumptions and accusations. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #131

Then I am left with only an assumption. hamsterjill Feb 2016 #143

Wrong. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #144

I'm entitled to my assumptions. hamsterjill Feb 2016 #150

Yes, you are entitled your wrong assumptions. And I assume you make many of them. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #159

Have you forgotten that ASSUME business? Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #199

Oh please! You think that's snarky? hamsterjill Feb 2016 #209

You have just proved the Assume meme. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #235

You really have no clue hamsterjill Feb 2016 #240

WGAS! Nice username. beaglelover Feb 2016 #118

I will not vote for a candidate who voted for the Iraq war. basselope Feb 2016 #121

Hard Woman to keep down Horus T Light Feb 2016 #122

Your petulance is showing, Snots. stopbush Feb 2016 #127

Nope, my independence is. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #128

I'd add nonconformity as well. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #132

You sound like a high school goth, ha kjones Feb 2016 #163

I'll work like hell for the nominee, whether it's the one I voted for or not... brooklynite Feb 2016 #145

+1 nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #280

Same here True Blue American Feb 2016 #288

This kind of smut politics makes it tough to support just any nominee EndElectoral Feb 2016 #146

I will vote AGAINST the GOP nominee if our nominee is not Bernie. jillan Feb 2016 #149

#1 You should not make a pledge like that in the first place tularetom Feb 2016 #151

President Trump liberal N proud Feb 2016 #152

I came to a conclusion that we all must be serious about the change we want... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #155

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author Snotcicles Feb 2016 #158

The rude post was hidden 6-1! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #171

Thank you for bring that to my attention. I'll self delete my response. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #173

Imagine that... kjones Feb 2016 #160

Cross that bridge IF we need to demwing Feb 2016 #165

I agree. But a good bloodletting can stimulate the intellect. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #166

Golly. Color me shocked. Hekate Feb 2016 #174

The ignorance on t his thread is shocking. nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #175

No, this bizarre presidential primary is shocking. To the core. RiverLover Feb 2016 #179

I do not tell people how to vote but.. fun n serious Feb 2016 #219

Richard Osman was on The Last Leg last night. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #176

I don't get why people think Bloomberg could swoop in & replace Bernie. RiverLover Feb 2016 #180

Osman didn't say Bloomburg would replace Sanders. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #182

That's what I mean. "split the vote" ??? RiverLover Feb 2016 #186

He didn't go into detail, Bad Dog Feb 2016 #189

Thanks. RiverLover Feb 2016 #192

This is still something far away as far as we're concerned. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #194

Well aren't you a really big deal. Don't let the door hit ya. Loki Feb 2016 #185

Sorry, but I think that is ridiculous and you might as well go work for the GOP. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #190

I often feel the same way, when I think that Sanders may be the nominee. NNadir Feb 2016 #193

Sanders isn't a Boomer, born September 8, 1941 Fumesucker Feb 2016 #252

Please, I implore you to reconsider... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #195

That is precisely where I stand on the issue. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #197

I now have a better understanding Snotcicles Feb 2016 #205

OK, whatever. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #203

Well said... Thespian2 Feb 2016 #206

THANKS For Getting In Line With ALL The Rest Of Us... ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #210

If anyone here means they won't vote at all, or vote down ticket BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2016 #212

I switched from Indy to Dem ONLY to caucus for Bernie pinebox Feb 2016 #215

I get it, but... JeaneRaye Feb 2016 #218

Why do you and the others assume when a person refuses to pledge, they refuse to follow through? Snotcicles Feb 2016 #221

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #220

I will support Hillary if she gets the nomination mvd Feb 2016 #223

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #228

In light of Scalia's death... Chichiri Feb 2016 #237

Of course. Now will you quit assuming I need to make one? nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #238

WTF Get Off This Site Then Ur No Better Than A Republican Corey_Baker08 Feb 2016 #242

No, I'll stay right here. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #243

Lol. And these are the people who claim to be progressive? ecstatic Feb 2016 #248

Where do you see a threat to vote GOP? In my post. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #249

A Vote Against The Democratic Nominee Is A Vote For The Republican Nominee... Corey_Baker08 Feb 2016 #250

I admire your passion, keep trying. Unfortunately, ecstatic Feb 2016 #284

Thank-You Very Much :) Corey_Baker08 Feb 2016 #290

I am a Bernie supporter too Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #251

And just between you and me, I might do the same. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #279

No loyalty pledges are yet required. Orsino Feb 2016 #253

+1.nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #275

But as you can tell some around here seem to argue the point. Hence a successful post. nt Snotcicles Feb 2016 #276

I'm not falling for the Supreme Court ploy anymore, either. earthside Feb 2016 #255

So you would vote for more Scalias. Got it. themaguffin Feb 2016 #256

Thats a stupid thing to say. Of coarse not, go back and read what I wrote SLOWLY. (edit spelling) Snotcicles Feb 2016 #274

awwwww zappaman Feb 2016 #264

I pledge NOT to vote for anyone who voted for the Iraq War basselope Feb 2016 #277

I understand exactly how you feel, but when they serve up Paul Ryan in the GOP brokered valerief Feb 2016 #278

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #281

I'm like you, I'm no longer affiliated with the DNC. I like my freedom to much. As far as getting Snotcicles Feb 2016 #283

sometimes you have to buy some pants that don't fit you olddots Feb 2016 #282