2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: My detailed take on why NOT Bernie Sanders [View all]Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)OK, sounds like some are trying to make the case that people who are voting for HRC don't have real reasons NOT to vote for Sanders.
Here are mine
1. The "revolution" lacks any practicality and details which Sanders has had over a half a year to outline... such as
- How is Sanders going to make doctors, hospitals and pharma accept half of what they're being paid now under his SP plan... otherwise we just keep the high HC cost and switch who were paying HCI premiums to.
- How is Sanders going to get any of this revolution agenda past congress?! (HRC isn't calling for revolution inside her own party, that's Sanders cross to bear)
- Sanders Wall Street plan doesn't fix the effects of Sanders horrid CFMA vote, what the hell!!?? Factually HRC is correct, her plan goes further into the root of what hurt America then and is hurting Europe now in regards to the commodities deregulation Sanders Voted for.
And Hillary's plan is to continue letting them die. That is the harsh reality of not fighting to eliminate copays and deductibles. People die when they can't afford an inhaler or heart medication.
2. Sanders wants a "course correction" and sounds like he wants to put asunder generations of democratic progress with his revolution just to start over on a lot of grounds. Tearing down the democratic establishment including Obama himself with his consummate bashing (NOT FAIR CRITICISM). Sanders has been an consummate DNC basher and a consummate Obama basher over the years, Sanders most disingenuous claim is Obama didn't bring the people with him after he got into office... I've gotten so many OFA emails I shut them off... Sanders isn't even rational in his bashing sometimes. His bash's even himself for taking Wall Street money or lobbying for it, but so has 99% of people who are involved in DNC...
I agree Hillary wants to stay the course and this is precisely why I don't support her run for the nomination.
3. Sanders "revolution" has too many asterisks by it that leaves out the supposed near instant equalization of marginalized groups (native Americans, Blacks, women) that he claims his revolution of changes could bring to SP to free college and to {free something else next week}. Sanders doesn't even try and reduce the horrid military spending.... he's "authentically" closed mouth with regards to his revolution on that issue. Look, Go hard or go home...or just stop calling it a revolution.
A quick google search reveals this http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/congress-alert/2013/december/21/sen-bernie-sanders-exposes-bloated-military-and-intelligence-spending/ I understand that it's from 3 years ago and that is problematic for a person who believes that it's fine to change positions at every single speech. But, Bernie doesn't do this his position on military spending hasn't changed a bit. So, you are not being honest here even a little.
4. Sanders focus is narrow, he doesn't make any qualms about it. A total lack of foreign policy INTEREST ... not just experience... he isn't even interested... not by the least bit. I'm thinking what else is Sanders not interested in in regards to governing this historically powerful country?
*** Sanders is calling for revolution not Clinton, she wants t build on top of what Obama has incrementally... that's at least proven to work... slowly but surely.
This is On the Issues where Bernie stands on foreign policy. I read most of it, but I don't rightly care where he is on foreign policy he is running for President of the United States, not King of the World. I would go a lot farther than Bernie on many issues including how much to gut the military budget and including have a lot less military involvement, but other than that I agree with a lot he says here.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Foreign_Policy.htm