2016 Postmortem

bravenak

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82. She did alot of outreach and got yelled at for years.

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:57 AM

Feb 2016

It got brought back up during her last campqign because SHE FAILED TO LEARN HER LESSON RIGHT. She lost a primary over her race related spewing.

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Is finger-gate an antisemitic dog whistle? [View all] tk2kewl Feb 2016 OP

Is 'hanging on street corners' a dogwhistle? bravenak Feb 2016 #1

given a particular context maybe, yeah tk2kewl Feb 2016 #2

I saw it as one in THAT context, the context of race relations bravenak Feb 2016 #3

I'm not sure what you're referring to tk2kewl Feb 2016 #5

I saw him say bravenak Feb 2016 #6

if so I'd say a poor choice of words. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #10

Not sure. I have beat up people for pointing in my face bravenak Feb 2016 #13

you committed assault based on someone's gestures? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #16

They poked my face hard with their finger bravenak Feb 2016 #18

so they weren't pointing as you originally contend tk2kewl Feb 2016 #21

Yes they were bravenak Feb 2016 #25

weren't just pointing tk2kewl Feb 2016 #42

They were also yelling and spitting, so? bravenak Feb 2016 #43

DU is a real comedy club tonight! cui bono Feb 2016 #71

You've had enough, plus you're a lousy tipper! n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #89

Hooow wooooooouldj yew knoa thaat? cui bono Feb 2016 #90

More dismissive nonsense. Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #119

ok... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #76

Poor choice of words and imagery, but not as cringe worthy as HRC's "bring them to heel". Jackilope Feb 2016 #23

So racism will be fixed when we get our kids off street corners bravenak Feb 2016 #26

No, but kids getting in trouble will be. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #36

I know in my job, I would be fired or suspended if using term "bringing to heel" about people. Jackilope Feb 2016 #48

That was 25 years ago bravenak Feb 2016 #49

Backing up ... Jackilope Feb 2016 #81

She did alot of outreach and got yelled at for years. bravenak Feb 2016 #82

I have to ask ...do you think she trustworthy now? Jackilope Feb 2016 #93

I trust none of them except Jill Stein bravenak Feb 2016 #94

Thank you. :-). n/t Jackilope Feb 2016 #97

So you're okay with "superpredators"? cui bono Feb 2016 #74

Sorry I cant answer from my street corner bravenak Feb 2016 #75

Nope. You saw him address institutional racism and its consequences. Kids with little left to do. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #29

So us being on street corners ruins race relations bravenak Feb 2016 #31

Actually, any kids hanging out on street corners leads to trouble. And you are not a kid. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #44

I'm hanging out on my corner right now. I'm black. It's what I do. bravenak Feb 2016 #51

Are you worried about it floating away? Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #60

Yes bravenak Feb 2016 #80

Once again, you are not a kid. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #79

The consequences of institutional racism ruins race relations. As Bernie pointed out, institutional Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #45

be honest grasswire Feb 2016 #83

After what I saw YOU post? Omg bravenak Feb 2016 #85

ridiculous nt grasswire Feb 2016 #87

It was worse than that.nt bravenak Feb 2016 #88

in some imaginary world but here's the real question and Bernies answer oh he said white kids too azurnoir Feb 2016 #95

It was a BLACK FORUM bravenak Feb 2016 #96

NO it was not it was the Democratic Primary Debate azurnoir Feb 2016 #98

Wrong--you misquoted Bernie--he said "low income kids" panader0 Feb 2016 #116

Hang on street corners bravenak Feb 2016 #122

Still clinging by your fingertips. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #7

Bullshit bravenak Feb 2016 #8

Yes. I do. Hello pot. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #30

I dunno. What about "Bring them to heel!"? Bonobo Feb 2016 #9

Only need to be brought to heel cause we are 'hanging on street corners' bravenak Feb 2016 #11

um, no. it was for super predators not loiterers tk2kewl Feb 2016 #14

Do black kids hang on street corners and no other kids do? bravenak Feb 2016 #17

asked and anwered tk2kewl Feb 2016 #19

And if Bernie and brought in white kids, you would have slammed him for doing so. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #37

be honest nt grasswire Feb 2016 #86

"Hanging on street corners" is shorthand for what people do when they have no jobs. Bonobo Feb 2016 #20

Oh! Really? bravenak Feb 2016 #27

Tell it to P Diddy. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #28

P Diddy Told Him To Say That? bravenak Feb 2016 #32

No, P Diddy said it. Is he a racist? Bonobo Feb 2016 #34

He said it about fixing race relations? Be ause that was Bernies solution to race relations. bravenak Feb 2016 #35

Bernie wants them to have jobs, Bravenak. Bonobo Feb 2016 #40

Admit that it is a fucking stereotype bravenak Feb 2016 #46

Admit that "Bringing them to heel" was a disgusting racist dog-whistle. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #47

It was. 25 years ago. This is now. bravenak Feb 2016 #58

Was that a yes? nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #59

Yes. I can admit that she fucks up bravenak Feb 2016 #61

Great so then let me answer YOUR question. Bonobo Feb 2016 #64

It was a BLACK FORUM bravenak Feb 2016 #66

That's it? So the fuck what? Bonobo Feb 2016 #69

He answered a question about race relations with black kids hanging on street cirners bravenak Feb 2016 #70

No. Do you need to reread the quote? nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #72

Nope bravenak Feb 2016 #73

Sounds like you do since you misquoted it again. nt Bonobo Feb 2016 #77

Sounded like a "yes, but that was so long ago." Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #62

Clinton bringing them to heel? Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #38

25 Years ago. I wanna talk about NOW! bravenak Feb 2016 #41

Being on street corners REPRESENTS not having a job. Bonobo Feb 2016 #50

Has nothing to do with improving race relations bravenak Feb 2016 #53

around here Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #55

Very nice. bravenak Feb 2016 #57

It may have been a long time ago, but unfortunately many "brought to heal" by the racist Clintons Dragonfli Feb 2016 #99

You know he voted for that bill that put us in prison right? bravenak Feb 2016 #101

His mistake does not excuse your behavior, misrepresentation and lies, I said what I needed to say Dragonfli Feb 2016 #105

Mistake? He knew! bravenak Feb 2016 #109

Just put someone on ignore warrprayer Feb 2016 #4

OMG n/t doc03 Feb 2016 #12

? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #15

I am a Jewish supporter (multiple donor) to Bernie & it concerns me that ... cloudythescribbler Feb 2016 #22

thanks... it was a honest question tk2kewl Feb 2016 #39

I am Jewish and I can tell you my whole family talks with their hands - it's a sign of passion. jillan Feb 2016 #52

do you thing all the talk of finger wagging is to bring attention to his being Jewish? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #63

No, not at all. I think he is a passionate speaker. jillan Feb 2016 #65

thanks tk2kewl Feb 2016 #78

Someone on his team told him to do that apparently flamingdem Feb 2016 #91

I was going to say, if it was about talking with his hands wouldn't it happen when he was *talking*? moriah Feb 2016 #100

Thank you! mcar Feb 2016 #121

As a New Yorker (now relocated) I'd say it very well might be. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #24

It's a dog-whistle for: OZi Feb 2016 #33

Women are conditioned to watch our body language, especially our hand movements Empowerer Feb 2016 #67

Um, body language and hand gesture techniques OZi Feb 2016 #92

How to be P.C. while pointing fingers? nolabels Feb 2016 #110

The simple answer is yes. It's a dog-whistle. dchill Feb 2016 #54

I wouldn't worry about it... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #56

Here's a racist one they tried against Obama jfern Feb 2016 #68

My mom was Jewish. My dad was Italian. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #84

Smart or they would be going like windmills.... whistler162 Feb 2016 #123

Doesn't bother me a bit that he talks with his hands NowSam Feb 2016 #102

So Bernie was impatient and waved his finger. JonathanRackham Feb 2016 #103

I don't know about that specifically, but I do see an egregious attempt to curtail discussion Fearless Feb 2016 #104

talking with hands has usually been seen as a Black Thing JI7 Feb 2016 #106

Huh? grossproffit Feb 2016 #111

it's usually a black female stereotype JI7 Feb 2016 #113

Up here in my area it's seen as a French thing. polly7 Feb 2016 #118

Yes it is. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2016 #107

Nobody gesticulated more than Doctor Magnus Pyke. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #108

fingershaming! XD MisterP Feb 2016 #112

The yelling too. My daughter's boyfriend is Jewish and his whole family yells. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #114

I don't know. LWolf Feb 2016 #115

more on race and division from the Clintons (and Meryl Streep) mbmiller Feb 2016 #117

.. mcar Feb 2016 #120