2016 Postmortem

PyaarRevolution

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88. Too bad so many of us...

Reply to dsc (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:03 AM

Feb 2016

roll on people like the Stonewall Queens who helped get us here as well. I'm not referring to you but others.

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My rocker-girl wife shared this with me regarding feminists and Hillary [View all] tk2kewl Feb 2016 OP

k&r Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #1

she may not owe Clinton personally dsc Feb 2016 #2

my wife is 48 but will always be my cool guitar chick among so much else tk2kewl Feb 2016 #3

oops it's supposed to be women don't OWE bernie mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #27

I am not clear on your point. Given that Bernie has been roguevalley Feb 2016 #35

the point is that women mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #50

The only browbeating of women I've seen has come from Clinton supporters. n/t eShirl Feb 2016 #63

in your delusional dreams mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #65

Indeed, there is no "special place in hell..." daleanime Feb 2016 #77

That's what I am seeing. Aerows Feb 2016 #113

The author acknowledges the debt. eom s-cubed Feb 2016 #6

Interesting argument. malthaussen Feb 2016 #31

I wouldn't go that far but in my lifetime, and I am not in her age cohort dsc Feb 2016 #69

And none of that is in dispute, malthaussen Feb 2016 #72

young women don't "owe" her their votes noiretextatique Feb 2016 #42

Too bad so many of us... PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #88

Hillary has the misfortune to be running against one of the few truly honest people in politics Doctor_J Feb 2016 #4

yes. and against the zeitgeist tk2kewl Feb 2016 #7

Well Said! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #119

Another, you're to old to get the real feminism schtick. boston bean Feb 2016 #5

Sorry Bean jham123 Feb 2016 #8

She's not a change candidate Hydra Feb 2016 #9

I know... being a woman president has been done so many times before. boston bean Feb 2016 #10

... Hydra Feb 2016 #11

I'm commenting on your statement. Nothing more. boston bean Feb 2016 #12

Ya, it was the comment Team Hill is swearing is not in play this cycle Hydra Feb 2016 #14

I was responding to your comment that Hillary is not a change candidate. nt boston bean Feb 2016 #16

Yes, you did. Hydra Feb 2016 #17

No, I'm quite satisfied, thank you for asking though. nt boston bean Feb 2016 #18

Hillary is the slow change, small change candidate in a year roguevalley Feb 2016 #36

So now Hillary is a change candidate? A Simple Game Feb 2016 #38

And you did exactly what the poster said you did, made it about voting for her because she's a woman cui bono Feb 2016 #84

"She is a woman" is, I'm sorry, the laziest argument for Clinton Bucky Feb 2016 #19

One is not able to comment that being a female president is a change from the status quo?? boston bean Feb 2016 #20

No, you're able to comment whatever. I still advise dropping the lame argument Bucky Feb 2016 #21

Advise away and makes things seem as they are not. It really doesn't matter to me. boston bean Feb 2016 #22

being a woman isn't a change agent if the change agent won't roguevalley Feb 2016 #37

> "It really doesn't matter to me."... geologic Feb 2016 #59

So would being a Jewish president. eom Fawke Em Feb 2016 #47

Margret Thatcher was a change in the Status Quo in the UK, and in a terrible way. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #78

Not in any of the ways that are important to the job description of POTUS. cui bono Feb 2016 #85

As a matter of fact, no. No more than Carly Fiorina wouls be. n/t eridani Feb 2016 #87

no her gender is not enough change noiretextatique Feb 2016 #44

Isn't that disingenuous? malthaussen Feb 2016 #45

supurbely place sarcasm ;) mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #46

being a woman president has been done so many times before. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #58

So, you're supporting Carly Fiorina now? eridani Feb 2016 #86

That's not good enough for me. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #89

by itself, putting a woman in the presidency isn't anything at all. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #108

Maybe you're just not a rocker-girl? kcr Feb 2016 #33

it would do us well to listen harder and parse meaning roguevalley Feb 2016 #39

This is all primary bullshit kcr Feb 2016 #51

It may not matter by the time your state votes.. cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #64

I think it gets way too polarized kcr Feb 2016 #66

Hey, I didn't just tell you that you don't count at all cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #70

I just don't think there's a whole lot of influencing going on on DU kcr Feb 2016 #71

How does an explanation of why some people don't want Mrs Clinton constitute an attack? malthaussen Feb 2016 #49

It's all in how it's done kcr Feb 2016 #54

Well, I'm an old white male, so I can't answer that one. malthaussen Feb 2016 #57

To be clear, I wasn't speaking about the article kcr Feb 2016 #62

Ah, yes. I see. malthaussen Feb 2016 #67

Recommend. Zorra Feb 2016 #13

Brilliant. RiverLover Feb 2016 #15

young people are prepared to make things work; they understand the stakes tk2kewl Feb 2016 #73

This reminds me of a conversation I had long ago artislife Feb 2016 #23

young women don't own bernie either mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #24

K&R abelenkpe Feb 2016 #25

A must read! So much good info in here. I liked this part : Arazi Feb 2016 #26

"thinking for themselves, unburdened by gender" tk2kewl Feb 2016 #74

That was beautiful! Change has come Feb 2016 #97

You and I are probably of the same generation and I couldn't agree more. eom. Cleita Feb 2016 #28

late boomer/ early genXer tk2kewl Feb 2016 #76

Oops! Not the same generation. I was born in 1940. Cleita Feb 2016 #79

FDR Dem like my Dad then I bet tk2kewl Feb 2016 #81

Yes, I remember him too although I was a kid. Cleita Feb 2016 #82

That doesn't even make any sense. n/t Beausoir Feb 2016 #29

It makes sense, common sense. Cleita Feb 2016 #30

Here's a heart from a Bernie voter. panader0 Feb 2016 #43

not conpetent greymouse Feb 2016 #32

Very shrewd post, if I may say so. Joe Chi Minh Feb 2016 #34

Her career path really isn't much of a model for feminists tularetom Feb 2016 #40

It is personal when I say I am so proud of young women when I read or see something like this. jillan Feb 2016 #41

Not ironic, quite deliberate. malthaussen Feb 2016 #53

Like the "Bic for Her" pens: tblue37 Feb 2016 #99

Agree DI Freighter Watcher Feb 2016 #121

This old bad at math feminist totally agrees. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #48

What an idiot treestar Feb 2016 #52

You miss the point. malthaussen Feb 2016 #55

Sounds like a vague Revolution treestar Feb 2016 #56

Could be. malthaussen Feb 2016 #60

Shasta is brilliant. snort Feb 2016 #61

From what I can tell feminist women are split JoeyT Feb 2016 #68

Feminist women are not actually split. Beausoir Feb 2016 #83

. demmiblue Feb 2016 #90

Hillary Clinton is hardly SheilaT Feb 2016 #75

The way Clinton is pushing the basest form of identity politics disgusts me. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #80

That is exactly how my Millennial daughter feels. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #91

So she will support another old white man who has been in power for 25 years and has Beausoir Feb 2016 #92

But a woman who has been suckling at the tits... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #102

..+1 840high Feb 2016 #120

Responding here, just FYI. Hissyspit Feb 2016 #107

going on my ignore list. Good bye. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #109

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huh? my wife who is laying in bed beside me right now is imaginary? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #94

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what the hell is with the quotes and caps? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #96

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What a strange response. Change has come Feb 2016 #100

There's always this smilie Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #116

Au revoir Beausoir. Getting 5 hides in 4 days is quite a feat, almost as if you were trying. Electric Monk Feb 2016 #101

Shucks - I didn't get 840high Feb 2016 #104

They just got 2 more hides, making it 5 today alone, and the account is now flagged for review. Electric Monk Feb 2016 #106

Walt Starr, bwaaaahaaaa! ms liberty Feb 2016 #117

The jury is in on the post you replied to neverforget Feb 2016 #105

sad tk2kewl Feb 2016 #110

looks like they want to be banned neverforget Feb 2016 #111

they hit 8 hides since monday before it was all said on done tk2kewl Feb 2016 #112

I know and I'm sorry about that. neverforget Feb 2016 #114

thanks tk2kewl Feb 2016 #115

Some people are assholes ms liberty Feb 2016 #118

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #103