2016 Postmortem

Cheviteau

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84. What Is It With You...

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 09:16 AM

Feb 2016

...and this massive expansion of government that you keep referring to? Expansion of Medicaid and Medicare? Weren't we all for that at one time in the past? Single payer and all. Eliminate student debt to free up money for young people to purchase their first home and a new car, perhaps? Sounds reasonable to me. That would put tons of money back in circulation instead of over-filling bank vaults for the super rich. Expand government by refurbishing of crumbling infrastructure - highways, bridges, airports, rail lines, and electrical grids...putting millions to work? Those kind of government expansions? What you're leaving out of the equation is the competition's messaging. Have you watched their debates? One of those clowns are going to put forth a coherent argument for why we should vote for him? Disclosure: I can vote for either of our candidates.

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Bernie Sanders would be EVISCERATED by the Republican attack machine in the general election. [View all] RBInMaine Feb 2016 OP

Lecture about how SOCIALIZZZZZT BERNIE SANDERS CAN'T POSSIBLY WIN #4386 beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #1

Typical lame fingers in ears response instead of a thoughtful REAL response. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #2

From your op: "Socialist Communist Socialist Communist Socialist Communist" beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #6

Can we get rid of all red hearts? PonyUp Feb 2016 #50

All this violent imagery, EVISCERATE, BLOODBATH, GUTS!!! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #55

IMO you don't want a "thoughtful REAL response", you want people to do what you say and djean111 Feb 2016 #9

Again, fingers in your ears. No real response. You offer NOTHING. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #12

I don't have to offer anything - you have been exhorting us to support Hillary for what seems djean111 Feb 2016 #22

+1,000 Pretty much the way I am seeing it also. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #28

Garbage in, garbage out. frylock Feb 2016 #166

Very impressed with yourself. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #90

You want a response? Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #120

I know, right? It is like the wheels are coming off the keyboards. :-) djean111 Feb 2016 #7

Good points! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #13

To be filed under "America will never elect a black man as POTUS" or "It's too Haaaard". sarge43 Feb 2016 #72

Hillary 2016: NO WE CAN'T! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #75

Bless his heart. n/t sarge43 Feb 2016 #119

The real question is how will they survive the attacks from Bernie. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #3

Thoughtful response, but how will be SPECIFICALLY respond to the SPECIFIC attacks? RBInMaine Feb 2016 #14

I realize that you haven't accepted his logic on this.... virtualobserver Feb 2016 #30

His positions are mainstream and poll widely popular AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #113

DWS will backstab Sanders if he is the nominee. Count on it. nt mariawr Feb 2016 #91

Lol...she would be subject to the same attacks... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #4

Read the whole OP. She has ALREADY been attacked and knows how to handle it. He doesn't. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #15

How she handles it is, in a way, not relevant. djean111 Feb 2016 #26

Again, she is damaged goods... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #31

And if it's just cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #46

She cannot defend herself against the facts. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #36

Her campaign has been coming apart at the seams AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #114

Her "handling" it has her as the second-least-trusted candidate in the race jeff47 Feb 2016 #130

DENY, DENY, DENY... Yes, Hillary knows how to handle it. John Poet Feb 2016 #180

Nothing in his four decades of running on his platform has prepared him for this... pugetres Feb 2016 #5

Very liberal Vermont is NOTHING compared to the entire nation. He NEEDS the heads up. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #18

Don't you think cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #48

Bernie made Vermont liberal so thanks for the reminder of the power of Bernie! Kalidurga Feb 2016 #152

Bullshit. The Clinton Machine is doing its best. And FAILING. cali Feb 2016 #8

Yup. They are wasting millions of dollars Helen Borg Feb 2016 #37

They're part of the Bernie fund raising machine and they work for free!! haikugal Feb 2016 #158

Your right: Sanders would face an absolutely brutal campaign in the fall, and it will be tough Recursion Feb 2016 #10

Trump's attacks on Bush should be an eye-opener virtualobserver Feb 2016 #17

Clinton lost me by *again* going 100% reactive. That's how you lose an election Recursion Feb 2016 #20

Clinton has the facts against her. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #39

Hillary is going LIGHT on him right now. Just wait until the R's get ahold of him. BLOODBATH!! RBInMaine Feb 2016 #19

This is the second national campaign where she has been unable to seize the initiative Recursion Feb 2016 #42

Righto. She is just being nice... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #44

And Cruz and Trump are just being nice too! cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #54

What Is It With You... Cheviteau Feb 2016 #84

Interest choice of words.... DeGreg Feb 2016 #103

There will be no bloodbath AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #121

It is Bernie who is going LIGHT on Hillary right now. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #123

WOLVERINES!!! frylock Feb 2016 #167

Hillary has gone light on him. Just wait until the R's get ahold of him. BLOODBATH!! RBInMaine Feb 2016 #23

Oh, I'm not worried about the "we want specifics!" stuff Recursion Feb 2016 #67

Righto. She is just being nice... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #71

She went light on Obama too. frylock Feb 2016 #168

Lets see jfern Feb 2016 #11

ALL has ALREADY been thrown time and again and she's still standing. Sanders will be DESTROYED!! RBInMaine Feb 2016 #25

She's badly bruised... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #47

The Clinton Foundation hasn't been brought up much jfern Feb 2016 #188

When Democrats were running away from gay marriage, ... stone space Feb 2016 #16

ONE policy that took a real movement and YEARS to achieve. Bernie will be CRUSHED! Totally CRUSHED! RBInMaine Feb 2016 #27

Iowa adopted a longstanding platform plank of the Iowa Socialist Party from the 1970s and 1980s... stone space Feb 2016 #80

virtually overnight!!1 frylock Feb 2016 #169

Yeah the lesson is don't vote for candidates that openly oppose the rights of others for 20 years. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #43

You're missing a giant point. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #21

Good points, but there aren't enough millenials to win the general election. So far the revolution RBInMaine Feb 2016 #33

So, again, why not just sit back and relax? djean111 Feb 2016 #40

Bernie is gonna get plenty of normal Republicans' votes, if my Nay Feb 2016 #139

I'm not saying that it's just them. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #157

Have you missed noticing that he is also doing very well with older voters? SheilaT Feb 2016 #162

Thanks for the "Concern" Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #24

YOU should damn be VERY concerned. Could I please have a substantive reply? RBInMaine Feb 2016 #34

No. Seeing the nonsense you posted you don't rate one. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #52

I see you have your blinders on in a big way. Just dismiss what you don't want to hear. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #62

No, there are lots of people that have responded to you. You ignored them or tried to talk over Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #66

eviscerate Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #29

Yup, they will cut his POLITICAL guts right out. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #35

Snicker...priceless. I love the use caps for emphasis. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #77

RB is getting funnier by the day Divernan Feb 2016 #68

And the same attack machine would give your Anointed One a free pass? On WHAT planet? hobbit709 Feb 2016 #32

Try reading the WHOLE post. Oh they'll attack her brutally too, but she's ALREADY tested. He isn't. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #41

I hate it too when the CAPS LOCK key gets stuck Helen Borg Feb 2016 #49

MAYBE WE NEED TO BE TURNED MORE LIKE A EUROPEAN COUNTRY. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #51

Let Me Get This Straight... chwaliszewski Feb 2016 #70

exactly. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #76

What I don't understand is the assumption that just because she's been attacked before, SheilaT Feb 2016 #163

Yes yes. Battle scarred. Fighter. Champion. blahblahblah. frylock Feb 2016 #171

The Banksters and Wall Street will give the anointed one Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #58

That pretty much sums it up. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #63

That's our Hillary. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #134

Tell that to Jonny Capehart and Maddy Albright and Gloria the Transphobe Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #38

I don't find much to agree with you on but this is seriously one of them. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #56

So would Clinton. The difference is: Sanders brings the voters who defeat the GOP numbers. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #45

The same thing will happen to Hillary. Don't be naive. Vinca Feb 2016 #53

Naive implies the poster doesn't know what he's doing. He knows perfectly well. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #59

Here's the thing bec Feb 2016 #57

Predictably Spreading Establishment FUD cantbeserious Feb 2016 #60

Even Slimeball David Brock's swiftboat attempts have been deflected easily, more easily than Hillary peacebird Feb 2016 #61

David Brock = "the Republican attack machine" GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #64

K & R....n/t asuhornets Feb 2016 #65

Joy vercetti2021 Feb 2016 #69

not even vaguely true EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #73

Corbyn... Myrddin Feb 2016 #83

I call bullshit. SamKnause Feb 2016 #74

... Bryce Butler Feb 2016 #93

Bernie would lose badly like George McGovern did in 1972 Sancho Feb 2016 #78

Half the people who voted in that election leftupnorth Feb 2016 #95

I voted in that election - it was similar in many ways... Sancho Feb 2016 #101

That was also 1972, and people were still limited to rotary dial telephones and newspapers. leftupnorth Feb 2016 #131

And it was different in three critical ways. jeff47 Feb 2016 #135

Goodness, you are so wrong...just take the economy...look it up... Sancho Feb 2016 #146

Wrong year, champ. jeff47 Feb 2016 #148

Don't be naive... Sancho Feb 2016 #160

The election was held in November, 1972. jeff47 Feb 2016 #161

There is no straw man, I was there! I participated. Sancho Feb 2016 #175

You do recall that McGovern was running against SheilaT Feb 2016 #165

1972 called. frylock Feb 2016 #173

You sound like the narrator who does movie trailers. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #79

In a world where Bernie Sanders would be EVISCERATED by the Republican attack machine.. frylock Feb 2016 #174

On the nose LOL. nt cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #184

Surrender Monkey Lecture v2999124733.1 99Forever Feb 2016 #81

the fact is, Bernie is winning over the heart and soul of the Democratic party Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #82

And Hillary WON'T??? Odin2005 Feb 2016 #85

? MynameisBlarney Feb 2016 #86

And the GOP will strew rose petals in Clinton's path instead jberryhill Feb 2016 #87

said better than i could dembotoz Feb 2016 #88

In any normal presidential election-- Ms. Yertle Feb 2016 #89

Kasich will be the GOP nominee, I believe. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #99

Trump is leading by a lot Ms. Yertle Feb 2016 #116

Red baiting and FUD doesn't work on anyone under 40 leftupnorth Feb 2016 #92

The Red Menace schtick doesn't work with a lot of us oldsters either. sarge43 Feb 2016 #105

You're so right. . . anniebelle Feb 2016 #94

Mic drop. n/t leftupnorth Feb 2016 #96

In a word...... BrainDrain Feb 2016 #97

Anybody in America who calls himself a socialist is able to handle it. B Calm Feb 2016 #98

More from the supporters of the 'No We can't' campaign. Shadowflash Feb 2016 #100

Delude huh? Delusion huh? bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #102

First of all.... How about stopping using republican buzz words... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #104

I've heard this all before and I wasn't impressed the first time. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #106

How will Sanders compete in a general election campaign? Gothmog Feb 2016 #107

You got me Uponthegears Feb 2016 #111

Sanders is bringing a knife to a gunfight Gothmog Feb 2016 #118

Oh, I get it Uponthegears Feb 2016 #147

Why do you post the same two or three things over and over and over? n/t QC Feb 2016 #108

ROFLMAO!!! yeah right, , you guys crack me up bowens43 Feb 2016 #109

Any opponent will be attacked by Republicans and Koch Respect 88 Feb 2016 #110

Nobody cares about that AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #112

Bernie will be defined by republicans way before he has a chance cosmicone Feb 2016 #115

Why Bernie Sanders isn�t going to be president, in five words Gothmog Feb 2016 #117

Bernie's message of Predatory Capitalism will awaken them! B Calm Feb 2016 #156

Clinton will be destroyed with the truth. Skwmom Feb 2016 #122

Nope. LWolf Feb 2016 #124

The last Democrat to run for President promising to raise taxes redstateblues Feb 2016 #125

Pssst...there was this more recent guy. jeff47 Feb 2016 #138

Yeah, the socialist commie attacks worked out so well for them in 2008 and 2012..... marmar Feb 2016 #126

This post is backward. It says "Bernie sucks Bernie sucks BERNIE SUCKS... but I love Bernie". cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #127

The most convincing evidence that RBI is right. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #128

Agree. blue neen Feb 2016 #137

No. They are not craftily attacking Hillary because they want Bernie to run against. SheilaT Feb 2016 #170

Sheila, respectfully that doesn't make much sense. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #185

My take is that they still think Hillary is the Inevitable One. SheilaT Feb 2016 #187

So you think the Clinton attack machine is utterly incompetent? jeff47 Feb 2016 #129

We'll lose in a cakewalk for the Repubs if Hillary's the nominee. TransitJohn Feb 2016 #132

You will get to test that hypothesis Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #140

I know. TransitJohn Feb 2016 #142

Egotistic? Vain glorious? Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #143

You do realize if Clinton wins the primary, GOP attacks dogs will be merciless. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #133

Hell, the "Democratic" attack dogs are merciless Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #136

And Hillary? Zambero Feb 2016 #141

You're freakin' hilarious! I hate to have to add you to my Forever Ignored Club, but, alas, I must. valerief Feb 2016 #144

Riiiight...just like he's been eviscerated by the Brock/Clinton machine. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #145

EEEK!! A Socialist can't win!! We have to have someone Republicans will be nice to!! Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #149

The Fact That Bernie Has Been Able To Get The Support ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #150

Of course they will spare Hillary.....? /nt JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #151

Benghazi! Bosnia Snipers! Private eMail Servers! Bill and Monica! JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #154

every Democrat magically becomes the most liberal uber socialist ever! /nt JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #159

Is it my imagination or are your posts becoming even more deranged? tularetom Feb 2016 #153

I like kittens. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #155

The vaunted Hillary attack machine can't even seem to make a dent. frylock Feb 2016 #164

And yet he seems to be weathering this Clinton attack rather well. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #172

Nobody will support Bernie. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #176

Word salad EVISCERATED gobledykook thereismore Feb 2016 #177

Exactly -- and they would be so kind to Hillary nichomachus Feb 2016 #178

But Republicans will NOT attack Clinton on her corruption and untrustworthiness? mhatrw Feb 2016 #179

We can't have socialized medicine Demobrat Feb 2016 #181

Bernie equals McGovern/Mondale 2 workinclasszero Feb 2016 #182

Well, they would try to make him look like Stalin reincarnated Stargleamer Feb 2016 #183

That is false. Fearless Feb 2016 #186