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firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
93. For Bernie, the race problem is a class problem
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 10:21 AM
Feb 2016

That doesn't make Bernie racist, or a bad person, it's just his opinion.

It's understandable why he doesn't get it. For his entire political career, he's never had to represent black people. Again, not because he's racist, it's just because there are no black people in Vermont.

I do give him credit for trying. He's tried to incorporate issues of race into his campaign. The issue is, IMO, he still doesn't quite get it. He doesn't understand that there are issues of race that go beyond economics.

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"Hanging on Street Corners" [View all] bravenak Feb 2016 OP
Not just black kids jfern Feb 2016 #1
How does that improve RACE RELATIONS? bravenak Feb 2016 #2
Is it a problem that the black youth unemployment rate is over 50%? jfern Feb 2016 #4
Yes. So is racism which the question was ABOUT. bravenak Feb 2016 #5
Well of course racism is why their unemployment rate is so high jfern Feb 2016 #6
That's nice so why the stereotyping? bravenak Feb 2016 #7
There's a racial component that the black unemployment rate is much higher jfern Feb 2016 #8
So nothing wrong we are not allowed to be offended? bravenak Feb 2016 #12
You're free to be offended anyways jfern Feb 2016 #13
You are choosing to be offended based on a misinterpretation of Bernie's words. earthshine Feb 2016 #66
How does it not help race relations? Perogie Feb 2016 #26
We all had job during slavery. Proof that full black employment will not fix racism. bravenak Feb 2016 #27
That was a huge fail on your part. Perogie Feb 2016 #29
But we were not on street corners!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #32
Oh I get it. It's about being annoying, not actually discussing the topic. Perogie Feb 2016 #35
The topic: street corners, race relations, how are they connected bravenak Feb 2016 #36
There are no answers that are going to satisfy you. earthshine Feb 2016 #68
Oh please! bravenak Feb 2016 #71
shouldnt there be an honest attemp first uponit7771 Feb 2016 #73
He's trying to improve employment opportunities and ensure a sound financial future PatrickforO Feb 2016 #82
I understand that but the question was on how he would improve race relations. bravenak Feb 2016 #88
Thread over. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2016 #3
... PonyUp Feb 2016 #9
I just learned in another thread that Obama and P. Diddy (Diddy? Sean? Puffy?)... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #21
Some of the best musical groups started out on street corners. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #23
It's a good place to watch the girls go by. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2016 #24
Oh fuck, you just DESTROYED this nice but deceptive OP! Bonobo Feb 2016 #10
... PonyUp Feb 2016 #11
More like this: Bonobo Feb 2016 #17
It wasn't that hard but still a thing of beauty, very first post too. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #86
+x100 840high Feb 2016 #31
Thanks for proving how disingenuous the op was by claiming it was just black kids. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #74
Where do you live? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #14
On a street corner bravenak Feb 2016 #15
I can see you are not into facts SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #20
Seriously bravenak? angrychair Feb 2016 #38
Listen bravenak Feb 2016 #42
I'm embarrassed for you. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2016 #60
What does that have to do with Bernie Sanders? bravenak Feb 2016 #61
You seem to be having some sort of existential crisis. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2016 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #63
I don't know if they're purposely dismissing Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #110
It's worse than dismissive bravenak Feb 2016 #113
Is there a term for seeing monsters in closets where none exist? AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #16
Socialism? bravenak Feb 2016 #18
NO, the correct term is "Non-Sequitur" AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #25
Tetraphobia n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #19
It's just a game. At the expense of a good man and his honest efforts to try to polly7 Feb 2016 #22
Sanders "African-American, white, Latino kids, the opportunities to get their lives together..." slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #28
His language was divisive and offensive bravenak Feb 2016 #30
How was it divisive and offensive when the statement was inclusive (see post #1). Thanks in advance. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #37
Once again. bravenak Feb 2016 #39
Once again, since he mentioned many races, you have an uphill climb to argue it was divisive. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #44
The forum was not about many RACES bravenak Feb 2016 #45
Non-Sequitur AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #90
that is beside the point it doesn't matter what the forum was about m-lekktor Feb 2016 #101
His snswer bravenak Feb 2016 #103
No, that was your interpretation, there are other people suffering as well ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #46
Then discuss all people at an all people forum bravenak Feb 2016 #47
Post a link to his reply at this "BLACK FORUM" slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #51
'I said BLACK fifty TIMES" bravenak Feb 2016 #52
So you have nothing, you cannot just scream BLACK, suppose I said just said MUSLIM slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #57
The question he was asked was about BLACK people specifically and race relations bravenak Feb 2016 #59
Post a damn link, you said this was at a black forum, post a link, he said White and Latinos as well slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #64
*crickets* beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #80
THe comment was made at the Democratic Primary Debate not a Black Forum azurnoir Feb 2016 #50
He did it at both events. bravenak Feb 2016 #53
untrue not at the N Minneapolis event azurnoir Feb 2016 #67
Yes he DID!! bravenak Feb 2016 #70
Post the link where BS says "hanging around street corners" in MN Arazi Feb 2016 #91
He said it. bravenak Feb 2016 #92
ok, you got nothing Arazi Feb 2016 #99
Oh please! bravenak Feb 2016 #100
Thank you, that was my recollection as well, trying to build bridges slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #54
So the op made up TWO things about Bernie that weren't true??? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #76
how can being inclusive be divisive? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Feb 2016 #33
This thread needs some music to keep it hopping Fumesucker Feb 2016 #34
An Oldie Goldie, but a Goodie! PonyUp Feb 2016 #40
Holy Cow. Savoy Brown, Street Corner Talking! ms liberty Feb 2016 #87
One of the things that keeps me at DU is someone gets almost all my obscure references Fumesucker Feb 2016 #112
Me too, lol! n/t ms liberty Feb 2016 #117
Bernie is from Brooklyn, people hang out on street corners there flamingdem Feb 2016 #41
You are making me laugh bravenak Feb 2016 #49
Good point, I doubt there was any shortage of whites hanging out on street corners jfern Feb 2016 #65
That was an unfortunate choice of words Matariki Feb 2016 #43
Thank you, I hope he does bravenak Feb 2016 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #55
I'm Black and I understand what Bernie is saying Perfectly! And i LOVE HIM! quantumjunkie Feb 2016 #56
Did I mention you? bravenak Feb 2016 #58
Welcome to DU Fumesucker Feb 2016 #69
Oh boy! leftofcool Feb 2016 #78
Living legend? BklnDem75 Feb 2016 #108
I agree ... GeorgeGist Feb 2016 #72
Maybe vercetti2021 Feb 2016 #75
No, I'm pretty sure he was talking about Black kids. leftofcool Feb 2016 #79
Bernie Sanders: "African-American, white, Latino kids" beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #81
Wow vercetti2021 Feb 2016 #83
His implication was clear. leftofcool Feb 2016 #84
Yes it was: "African-American, white, Latino kids" beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #85
Oh shit I hope not bravenak Feb 2016 #89
disappointed Enrique Feb 2016 #77
For Bernie, the race problem is a class problem firebrand80 Feb 2016 #93
Pretty much my impression bravenak Feb 2016 #96
I still can't get over this! I'm absolutely FLOORED! Bernie TOTALLY BLEW IT! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #94
I have decided to get over it because I am now causing racism bravenak Feb 2016 #95
Good grief! (Is THAT what they're saying now?) NurseJackie Feb 2016 #98
I'm done bravenak Feb 2016 #104
It's about a lack of opportunity and a lack of access DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #97
How does tha address the question he was asked bravenak Feb 2016 #102
Giving people a fair shake, for once DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #107
Ok bravenak Feb 2016 #111
I think he was asked if he could improve race relations not end racism DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #122
Race relations is not all, or even mostly about money bravenak Feb 2016 #123
What are you looking for him to say? DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #126
Discuss the racial disparities but not like a fucking professor bravenak Feb 2016 #128
Economics is his biggest strength gollygee Feb 2016 #105
That's it in a nutshell bravenak Feb 2016 #106
So who exactly will fix this, and how? nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #119
Nobody but father time bravenak Feb 2016 #124
Street Corner Society (1943) - by William Foote Whyte aikoaiko Feb 2016 #109
Oh yes bravenak Feb 2016 #114
I understand that you and others are unsatisfied with his response. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #116
Damn.....are you race nagging? msanthrope Feb 2016 #115
Lol bravenak Feb 2016 #118
Phony outrage--read his quote panader0 Feb 2016 #120
Hanging on street corners bravenak Feb 2016 #125
read his quote I full Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #129
I will change my mind about him when he changes his rhetoric bravenak Feb 2016 #132
DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #121
I stand with.. cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #130
I stand eith my black self aint nobody do for me more than me bravenak Feb 2016 #131
Super-predators! thereismore Feb 2016 #133
Black people are POOR bravenak Feb 2016 #134
Lock them up! Bring them to heeeeeeel! White lady scared! thereismore Feb 2016 #135
Lol! She did look scared bravenak Feb 2016 #136
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #137
No. Dont wanna help, they are rude bravenak Feb 2016 #138
Just dropping this here Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #139
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