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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Sanders: A Man with A Hammer, Who Sees Nails Everywhere [View all]kristopher
(29,798 posts)119. So how do you account for Rev.King believing the same thing as Sanders?
Do you think he was he as misguided as you claim Senator Sanders is?
In 1964, accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, he observed that the United States could learn much from Scandinavian "democratic socialism." He often talked about the need to confront "class issues," which he described as "the gulf between the haves and the have-nots."
In 1966 King confided to his staff:
In holding these views, King followed in the footsteps of many prominent, influential Americans whose views and activism changed the country for the better. In the 1890s, a socialist Baptist minister, Francis Bellamy, wrote "The Pledge of Allegiance" and a socialist poet, Katherine Lee Bates, penned "America the Beautiful." King was part of a proud tradition that includes such important 20th century figures as Jane Addams, Eugene Debs, Florence Kelley, John Dewey, Upton Sinclair, Helen Keller, W.E.B. DuBois, Albert Einstein, A. Philip Randolph, Bayard Rustin, and Walter Reuther.
Today, America's most prominent democratic socialist is Senator Bernie Sanders, a candidate for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. Like King, Sanders says that the U.S. should learn from Sweden, Norway and Denmark -- countries with greater equality, a higher standard of living for working families, better schools, free universities, less poverty, a cleaner environment, higher voter turnout, stronger unions, universal health insurance, and a much wider safety net. Sounds anti-business? Forbes magazine ranked Denmark as the #1 country for business. The United States ranked #18.
Concerns about the political influence of the super-rich, the nation's widening economic divide, the predatory practices of Wall Street banks, and stagnating wages, have made more and more Americans willing to consider the idea seriously. A December 2011 Pew survey found that nearly half of young voters under the age of 29, regardless of their political party affiliation, viewed socialism positively....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/martin-luther-king-was-a-democratic-socialist_b_9008990.html
In 1966 King confided to his staff:
"You can't talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can't talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You're really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry. Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong with capitalism. There must be a better distribution of wealth, and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism."
In holding these views, King followed in the footsteps of many prominent, influential Americans whose views and activism changed the country for the better. In the 1890s, a socialist Baptist minister, Francis Bellamy, wrote "The Pledge of Allegiance" and a socialist poet, Katherine Lee Bates, penned "America the Beautiful." King was part of a proud tradition that includes such important 20th century figures as Jane Addams, Eugene Debs, Florence Kelley, John Dewey, Upton Sinclair, Helen Keller, W.E.B. DuBois, Albert Einstein, A. Philip Randolph, Bayard Rustin, and Walter Reuther.
Today, America's most prominent democratic socialist is Senator Bernie Sanders, a candidate for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination. Like King, Sanders says that the U.S. should learn from Sweden, Norway and Denmark -- countries with greater equality, a higher standard of living for working families, better schools, free universities, less poverty, a cleaner environment, higher voter turnout, stronger unions, universal health insurance, and a much wider safety net. Sounds anti-business? Forbes magazine ranked Denmark as the #1 country for business. The United States ranked #18.
Concerns about the political influence of the super-rich, the nation's widening economic divide, the predatory practices of Wall Street banks, and stagnating wages, have made more and more Americans willing to consider the idea seriously. A December 2011 Pew survey found that nearly half of young voters under the age of 29, regardless of their political party affiliation, viewed socialism positively....
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Even then...The "Bernie is a one track candidate" is such a false non-starter from the campaign.
merrily
Feb 2016
#152
I guess that balances out your Blah.Blah. Hilly bad. Bernie good. Blah blah blah.
JTFrog
Feb 2016
#39
What do you mean wow. Your OP sounds like it was written by a conservative republican. nt
m-lekktor
Feb 2016
#18
I got from this that its better to keep minorities poor than to give them jobs or pay them more.
RiverLover
Feb 2016
#17
I feel so sorry for the poor, downtrodden, billionaires being attacked by "comrade" Bernie.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2016
#23
Wouild "Picked on"? Balamed? Scorned? Attacked? Defamed? be more apt.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2016
#32
Jay Gould spouting Marxist lines-that IS the funniest thing I've come to in your posts yet.
hobbit709
Feb 2016
#46
Actually keeping the masses from uniting together keeps the elitists in power
OrwellwasRight
Feb 2016
#53
Is Nestle working little white children to death in the cocoa fields?
My Good Babushka
Feb 2016
#110
Dissent will NOT be tolerated. The revolution must proceed. Resistance is futile.
Persondem
Feb 2016
#63
"the billionaire class has almost not say in the management of local schools"?
OrwellwasRight
Feb 2016
#74
I'm an old black guy, father born in the depths of Jim Crow segregation, dirt poor sharecropper.
kennetha
Feb 2016
#82
OK - I'm an old white guy, grew up in a county 40% black (my first playmates
Ron Green
Feb 2016
#112
And Hillary is a woman who has a hammer but doesn't believe in using it,
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2016
#75
See, you support the candidate who attacked my basic rights on the basis that her Bible is a hammer
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2016
#123
That analogy is used to explain people (like Hillary) who always use the military option when
Motown_Johnny
Feb 2016
#126
TL;DR. Stopped at "Comrade Bernie" because the derp started to splash over the rim of the bowl.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#143
There is nothing in there about what she proposes to do about any of that. n/t
eridani
Feb 2016
#150