2016 Postmortem

aikoaiko

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21. The scale of the axes are interesting.

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 02:21 PM

Feb 2016

Back 10 months ago (or so) the data were very different. Hillary had a huge lead over Bernie among whites and even bigger lead among Black Americans. I seem to recall 90-10 ish range.

Now its 50-50 among whites and 5:1 among Black Americans.

Clearly the article chose to depict no change when in fact there has been much change over the last year. Maybe not enough to overcome the Clinton machine, but the chosen axes are interesting for what they show and for what they hide.

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Posted without comment, as anyone can draw their own conclusions ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 OP

It tells me that Clinton is going to lose. Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #1

it tells me, 1strongblackman, that SC is going to be an roguevalley Feb 2016 #44

yes, the math seems to be pretty clear on that. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #81

This is a duplicate OP fyi Arazi Feb 2016 #2

My bad ... I'll delete it because it's not like other articles/blogs/OPs ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #10

Not necessary, I just wanted you to know why commentary may be low Arazi Feb 2016 #12

My bad, again! I little to quick on my trigger. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #16

I can't ask in AA, I've been kicked out, I talk to young AA calling for Bernie all the time, and I orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #33

Another young black man kicked out of AA rtm_trium Feb 2016 #49

That sucks! Welcome to DU! Arazi Feb 2016 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Feb 2016 #72

Who are you? When were you kicked out of the AA forum? Number23 Feb 2016 #86

This is amazing bravenak Feb 2016 #87

Amazing but not surprising. I think that people think that we are just supposed to roll over and let Number23 Feb 2016 #88

Oh yeah, coincidence. bravenak Feb 2016 #89

It must sting... NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #92

Oh here you come to save the day!!!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #95

See Post #92. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #96

You mean like the Sanders forum? And it's 200 member block list on a web site that is 85% FOR Number23 Feb 2016 #120

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #134

I love how apparently, it's OUR fault that we have chosen to use the tools at our disposal to weed Number23 Feb 2016 #139

"Getting blocked from the AA forum on a Dem web site should make any "progressive" question . . ." Empowerer Feb 2016 #143

I'm on the Sanders block list. Yes, they censor too. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #138

I am becoming more and more convinced that much of the disruption here is being caused by people Empowerer Feb 2016 #144

yep, I agree with you on this steve2470 Feb 2016 #146

It was probably the trolls who alerted it . . . don't want the secret getting out Empowerer Feb 2016 #147

great minds think alike! nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #148

Welcome rtm_trium !!!!! orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #107

You were imprisoned by feminists? wildeyed Feb 2016 #114

Black Democrats, in general, enjoy... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #3

Or trust Women more than Men, which I do too, not this one, too ambiguous . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #108

Glad somebody is showing some sense. Hoyt Feb 2016 #4

Numbers don't lie, but deniers will cry. oasis Feb 2016 #5

It's very revealing and clear. Not much wiggle-room left for varying interpretations. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #6

In NH the only two demographics Clinton won were income over $200k and age over 65 peacebird Feb 2016 #7

This is a national survey. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #13

It is a survey, yes. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #28

she beat him among POC within the MOE but she was higher in the exit poll dsc Feb 2016 #23

African Americans are 1.5% of the N.H. population. Hispanics and Asians are higher. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #30

Ok so 1 out of 5 African American voters supports Bernie Sanders. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #8

At his point it appears that white millennials have done more research than their black counterparts tularetom Feb 2016 #9

Or - they perceive it as JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #11

Or it's the reverse... Spazito Feb 2016 #14

Much more research? Yeah. Right! eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #15

wow you are going with blacks are lazy dsc Feb 2016 #24

Yep, an all to familiar thing. But very acceptable around here. randys1 Feb 2016 #48

He is one who posted it ... I wonder how many Berniebros think the same. n/t cosmicone Feb 2016 #141

I will try to ask this as value free as possible DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #25

OP said "draw your own conclusions" tularetom Feb 2016 #45

Conclusions are based on evidence; simplistic opinions however, are based on 'personal belief' LanternWaste Feb 2016 #47

The suggestion embodied in your premise is that those who disagree with you are improperly informed. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #51

But you did say it. Re-read your posts and get a clue brush Feb 2016 #82

That's exactly what you said bravenak Feb 2016 #93

You didn't 'draw a conclusion about Clinton" .... you CHOSE to draw a conclusion about ..... etherealtruth Feb 2016 #103

That is so patronizing. I'm a Bernie supporter and I find this kind myrna minx Feb 2016 #27

Well said, and +1 emulatorloo Feb 2016 #78

Because if black people's views diverge from those of white people, it's because the black people Empowerer Feb 2016 #32

Preach, my love! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #46

Scalia would say you need a slower tract learning process for how to research your vote. randys1 Feb 2016 #50

In reply 34 I posed a question. Do you you have an interest in answering it? CentralMass Feb 2016 #52

Surely! smdh Quayblue Feb 2016 #54

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #71

+1,000,000 n/t cosmicone Feb 2016 #142

Nope. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #36

Or maybe they did, and they are better in math than white millenials. Meybe they deal in relaity lunamagica Feb 2016 #38

Thank you for this. vdogg Feb 2016 #40

Your post is a good example why we all should read the directions to stuff... good post...lol. uponit7771 Feb 2016 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author vdogg Feb 2016 #127

Was this to me? vdogg Feb 2016 #128

The beginng of the comment and the reply title sounded like there was agrrement but then there uponit7771 Feb 2016 #129

Oh, gotcha vdogg Feb 2016 #130

This is incredibly offensive etherealtruth Feb 2016 #53

Agreed. bunnies Feb 2016 #66

A jury voted 5-2 to leave that post etherealtruth Feb 2016 #73

Seriously? bunnies Feb 2016 #74

omg uponit7771 Feb 2016 #79

I know :-( etherealtruth Feb 2016 #83

SMH...Explains a lot about this place and the people in it... n/t Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #84

It is really discouraging etherealtruth Feb 2016 #102

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #70

your assumptions are not good, as articulated well by our PoC posters nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #57

Do you think this post could be at all offensive? uponit7771 Feb 2016 #69

Why do you think it is okay to say something like that? n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #80

This thread is going in the bookmarks just for this post. I'd ask what in God's name would Number23 Feb 2016 #90

It was saved from a hid too... I'm bookmarking this uponit7771 Feb 2016 #122

How did you come to that conclusion? bravenak Feb 2016 #91

Perfect example of a BernieBro. If this is what DU and the party will be like under Bernie, ecstatic Feb 2016 #104

Or it could be that wildeyed Feb 2016 #116

Or ... white millennials can easily fall for the undeliverable free college n/t cosmicone Feb 2016 #140

And young blacks are less interested in and less likely to get caught up in cults Empowerer Feb 2016 #145

Gee! DmonCeede Feb 2016 #17

LOL. Okay. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #19

It is what it is. They will vote their conscience as will White and Hispanic people. nt Autumn Feb 2016 #18

National poll. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #20

The scale of the axes are interesting. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #21

Clearly Clinton has done a good job reaching these out to young AA people ( myrna minx Feb 2016 #22

KnR, 1SBM Hekate Feb 2016 #26

k&r bigtree Feb 2016 #29

Thank you! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #31

Very interesting. Do you have input on why that is ? CentralMass Feb 2016 #34

YOu could have done better by saying the first sentence only, I bet. randys1 Feb 2016 #55

Let me give an executive summary. The party has voted to bailout CentralMass Feb 2016 #61

You arent asking, you are telling. This has been going on here for months. randys1 Feb 2016 #64

What is that some tactic ? I'm asking why a party that has CentralMass Feb 2016 #75

No, you are not asking, you are lecturing. You even pose your damn question as if you are randys1 Feb 2016 #94

You're the one lecturing. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #97

You have decided to shut up and listen, "for ever", not "for once". ieoeja Feb 2016 #98

I clearly asked a question You clearly do not want to answer it. CentralMass Feb 2016 #119

Explaining why you are voting for someone is NOT lecturing Kentonio Feb 2016 #133

Yes, Clinton has established a imperfect relationship over decades and she wants to continue uponit7771 Feb 2016 #131

thank you... handmade34 Feb 2016 #35

Internet poll Lordquinton Feb 2016 #37

Do tell ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #42

It is telling Lordquinton Feb 2016 #60

K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #39

Well, if she is their choice, that is sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #41

Your numbers are incorrect. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #56

Back where I come from we call that "shooting ourselves in the foot". CentralMass Feb 2016 #43

What is the basis for you believing... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #58

See my reply #34. CentralMass Feb 2016 #62

African American unemployment was at it lowest level in a generation under Bill Clinton DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #65

Thanks for posting Gothmog Feb 2016 #63

Very revealing thread. Thanks, OP. Rec. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #67

Boom goes the dynamite !!! So Sanders coalition is almost all white!!!! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #68

Kick and Rec, thanks for posting this n/t emulatorloo Feb 2016 #76

K & R MrWendel Feb 2016 #77

What is the point of this thread at all? If you have a point. Just say it. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #85

With days... MrWendel Feb 2016 #99

I am beginning to think 1SBM and Bravenak are trying to get PPR'ed. ieoeja Feb 2016 #100

And you would be "thinking" incorrectly ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #135

Just presenting facts ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #110

It factually delineates the difference between the young vote and a person can conclude Sanderes uponit7771 Feb 2016 #123

K & R Iliyah Feb 2016 #101

I consider this a problem. joshcryer Feb 2016 #105

Clearly, a majority of DU:Bernie (responding on this thread) ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #111

"Supporters." joshcryer Feb 2016 #118

K&R DemonGoddess Feb 2016 #106

NBC = G.E. orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #109

Facts = Facts. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #112

True . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #150

There's also this. Beacool Feb 2016 #113

only with Dems dana_b Feb 2016 #115

Well, all those things are facts an they don't count in this primary election /sarcasm uponit7771 Feb 2016 #124

What I suspected. wildeyed Feb 2016 #117

Notice they didn't pan out to the crowd during Sanders Morehouse visit uponit7771 Feb 2016 #125

But they had a bunch of Black folks on the stage! ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #136

Facts are great things to use in these discussions Gothmog Feb 2016 #126

One would think. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #137

She wins in a poll. She lost to Bernie in an actual VOTE. The only demographics to break FOR her peacebird Feb 2016 #132

Blacks are among the most conservative... MellowDem Feb 2016 #149

K & R, thanks for posting 1SBM Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #151