2016 Postmortem

Nanjeanne

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79. Higher taxes - so much more you get for your money

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 05:53 PM

Feb 2016

Let's see 2015 Happiest Countries:

Switzerland
Iceland
Denmark
Norway
Canada
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
New Zealand
Australia
Israel
Costa Rica
Austria

Now what do those top countries have that we don't - higher taxes!

But who wants to be happy when we can pay less taxes, not be able to afford college, pay so much in health insurance, don't have paid vacation, family leave, maternity leave, and so much more? Gee I wonder if we made a graph of taxes in these other countries - then our taxes plus all those other things we pay for that they have included in their taxes - which do you think would be higher on the graph?

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Why Can't America Be like Europe? [View all] kennetha Feb 2016 OP

America will be like Europe. The revolution has begun. yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #1

European states have a homogeny that America lacks. apnu Feb 2016 #2

I've been traveling in Europe since 1974. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #3

blah, blah, blah kennetha Feb 2016 #4

Spoken like a truly uninformed propagandist. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #30

yes, listening to someone who has actually been there and experienced dana_b Feb 2016 #56

ha ha kennetha Feb 2016 #73

I have been to Europe a bunch of times too, but I'm not sure how that informs this discussion. bettyellen Feb 2016 #65

I agree Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #78

Could you explain....thanks all american girl Feb 2016 #82

Why does the idea.... daleanime Feb 2016 #5

What fear? kennetha Feb 2016 #7

See? A simple question pushes you to insults.... daleanime Feb 2016 #11

that wasn't a simple question kennetha Feb 2016 #14

Answer: Are they set in stone? daleanime Feb 2016 #24

Jury's in Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #49

More "NO WE CAN'T" from the Surrender Monkey Wing of the New Democrats Party. 99Forever Feb 2016 #6

just dispassionate, objective analysis kennetha Feb 2016 #8

Horseshit. 99Forever Feb 2016 #9

blah, blah, blah kennetha Feb 2016 #10

Yes, that's precisely what you do. 99Forever Feb 2016 #12

you seem as closed minded kennetha Feb 2016 #17

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #18

tsk, tsk kennetha Feb 2016 #21

And "blah, blah, blah" isn't a sign of a weak mind? Fawke Em Feb 2016 #37

frickin sad isn't it? pinebox Feb 2016 #68

No dude you play the card pinebox Feb 2016 #67

Defend? kennetha Feb 2016 #75

So they pay more in taxes. Americans are fucking crybabies about taxes. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #13

Look I agree with you kennetha Feb 2016 #15

Sorry, I took a reflexive reaction to the first point of your post without proper consideration. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #16

I'm not sure where you are going in Europe, but I sure hope it's not belgium all american girl Feb 2016 #83

More 'No We Can't!'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #19

^^ this plus ^^ Kittycat Feb 2016 #29

Which also circles back around to Scalia, as well. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #31

Much too Simplistic, IMHO kennetha Feb 2016 #50

I wasn't about to write a book for you. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #76

So, you cite a random list of American shortcomings as the reason to keep things as they are? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #20

where'd you get that? kennetha Feb 2016 #23

Well, let's see whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #27

hmm kennetha Feb 2016 #33

You seem intellectually allergic to whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #38

no I'm not. kennetha Feb 2016 #42

Your posts whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #46

you can't read obviously, if you think that. kennetha Feb 2016 #47

or Canada, Australia or New Zealand treestar Feb 2016 #22

agreed kennetha Feb 2016 #25

Yes, agreed and the states were full of themselves treestar Feb 2016 #26

Europe has far better transportation services too. JRLeft Feb 2016 #28

love those high speed trains in Europe kennetha Feb 2016 #34

Our high speed trains aren't really high speed trains. JRLeft Feb 2016 #35

agreed kennetha Feb 2016 #36

That's reason why a lot people are against. Add in a poor design and it's set up for failure. JRLeft Feb 2016 #39

totally agree about the poor design kennetha Feb 2016 #40

Agreed, either do it right or don't bother. Well wait until you do a better job. JRLeft Feb 2016 #44

The last Democrat that ran for POTUS promising to raise taxes redstateblues Feb 2016 #32

Therefore... whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #45

no. but it's hard. kennetha Feb 2016 #48

It's my understanding that Europe, unlike present day America, tends to protect it's workers whathehell Feb 2016 #77

Nope. The last Democrat that ran for POTUS promising to raise taxes was Obama. jeff47 Feb 2016 #51

Easy answer. OkSustainAg Feb 2016 #41

easier said than done. kennetha Feb 2016 #43

There's a lot of stereotyping going on here. Fearless Feb 2016 #52

stereotyping? kennetha Feb 2016 #53

The biggest being that Europe is a united "country" like political body. Fearless Feb 2016 #55

wouldn't deny that kennetha Feb 2016 #60

one of the more thinly veiled racist lines I have ever heard on DU DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #54

That's not racist kennetha Feb 2016 #59

We spend 2-4 times what Eurpoean countries do on defense exboyfil Feb 2016 #57

all true kennetha Feb 2016 #61

Simple answer: a Greedy and Empowered 1% kristopher Feb 2016 #58

you really think it's that simple? kennetha Feb 2016 #62

Absolutely. kristopher Feb 2016 #63

the bottom 60% is not a monolith kennetha Feb 2016 #64

It isn't when the top 1% has all the money. But if we distribute that money... kristopher Feb 2016 #66

No reply? kristopher Feb 2016 #71

You know that was sort of Bill Clinton's idea kennetha Feb 2016 #72

Clinton's idea? Did he come up with democracy also? kristopher Feb 2016 #80

Big K and R oasis Feb 2016 #69

Simple - We have Republicans (in both parties) and They don't Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #70

An old article from the 90's about Paris kennetha Feb 2016 #74

Higher taxes - so much more you get for your money Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #79

I bet if you did a graph on "trust in government" kennetha Feb 2016 #81

I lived in Denmark from 2004-2007, and yes, they are happy with what the all american girl Feb 2016 #84

Well some aren't happy in every country I'm sure. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #85

That is so true, so true. I was telling a funny little thing about Denmark. Some people will all american girl Feb 2016 #86

It is not the amount of taxes it is the value from them libtodeath Feb 2016 #87