2016 Postmortem

Beacool

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61. Yes.

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Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:34 PM

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Does anyone really think there will be ANY enthusiasm in a fall campaign with HRC? [View all] Ken Burch Feb 2016 OP

well you are a guy mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #1

If she inspires enthusiasm among women, how did she LOSE the woman's vote in NH? Ken Burch Feb 2016 #4

she did very well in NH mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #7

She lost women in NH, 55%-44%. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #12

which is fine for a NH primary mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #17

She lost by 22 points in a state where she'd been thirty points ahead six months earlier. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #19

She LOST women Trajan Feb 2016 #84

I am more concerned about whether the DNC and Hillary's campaign razorman Feb 2016 #86

lalalalalalallalalalalalalalalala! tazkcmo Feb 2016 #127

This woman confirms what he said. The turnout in my family will be utterly dismal if Hillary JimDandy Feb 2016 #9

I don't take stock in polls mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #11

Not against repubs in general election matchup, she's not cali Feb 2016 #25

I don't either. I knew the polls were wrong--that Bernie was much stronger than they JimDandy Feb 2016 #36

well my point is mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #47

If ALL polls are notoriously unreliable...the polls showing HRC leading among POC Ken Burch Feb 2016 #58

really? you mean mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #62

not pollsters...HRC supporters using polls as if they prove Bernie isn't a legitimate candidate. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #92

it doesn't matter where the polls come from ... mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #94

I agree with this bravenak Feb 2016 #119

No turn out from my 840high Feb 2016 #71

They are not life long Democrats if they don't redstateblues Feb 2016 #131

Well, I'm a woman and she makes my skin crawl. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #18

re; "she makes my skin crawl" mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #21

Them too... Got it Feb 2016 #28

your political views mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #32

You just made the case for Bernie. n/t Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #93

Sure they do. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #73

Just a heads up in case you are new here Change has come Feb 2016 #113

which post are you referring to? mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #114

Well, I'm a woman and I have zero passion for her. Punkingal Feb 2016 #42

Me too. As a feminist I fought for the right to be hired on the worthiness of my work alone Lorien Feb 2016 #74

I hop I'm not hearing a sexism charge? floriduck Feb 2016 #82

hey individuals are individuals mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #85

If she gets it, it's up to her to generate it Paulie Feb 2016 #2

No worries on that front with Sanders. You won't hear one word about gun control.. frylock Feb 2016 #60

Bernie has been consistent for four decades on the issues. Lorien Feb 2016 #103

How about this slogan to stir up enthusiasm: Vote a 3rd term for Billary Clinton. n/t Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 #3

Wow, and I thought that "I'm a woman so I must be an outsider" was a shitty slogan Bucky Feb 2016 #8

"Billary Clinton" Bwahahahahaha snagglepuss Feb 2016 #39

It wil be "Who else are you going to vote for?" Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #124

Not if you keep this up here and all over social media, I mean what are randys1 Feb 2016 #5

If she is nominated, I want her to learn and listen. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #23

I agree with everything Bernie says and wants to do and I am sick and tired of randys1 Feb 2016 #26

Not what I was saying. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #33

So Black people who vote for her now, per your own words randys1 Feb 2016 #34

No. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #38

That is not what Ken's own words say at all and you hopefully know that. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #43

If she is not reliant on small donors then it is very hard for us to tell her that, other than not.. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #37

Voting is everything. She can raise a trillion, wont matter if we demand single payer randys1 Feb 2016 #44

How do we let her know that we won't be voting for her? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #48

I think a general strike is in order. People need to understand they have the power. randys1 Feb 2016 #49

I don't disagree with you. Just to add, at this point, we are getting dangerously close to violating JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #54

How? I am voting for whoever the Dem is, I dont know of any other rules randys1 Feb 2016 #56

Well, I think we were just talking about sitting out the 2020 re-election campaign, if I'm not JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #59

The chances of any Clinton listening to anyone without hifiguy Feb 2016 #68

It doesn't matter. HRC nomination = Republcan POTUS musiclawyer Feb 2016 #77

indies and millenials mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #120

In the gazillion or so FB groups for Bernie Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #89

+1. I personally only know of two Bernie supporters who are willing to hold their Lorien Feb 2016 #100

Really, you think one person can derail Hill? lol Logical Feb 2016 #109

I'll be enthusiastically anti-Trump, anti-Cruz, or anti-Rubio Bucky Feb 2016 #6

We'll all be passionately anti-GOP Ken Burch Feb 2016 #15

No. Kittycat Feb 2016 #10

+1 daleanime Feb 2016 #41

Yep. She is awesome. :) n/t Lucinda Feb 2016 #13

What about all the posts on your 'why are ppl concerned about Wall St. donors' OP? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #45

I feel my excitement level Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #14

I predict lots of enthusiasm noamnety Feb 2016 #16

My Fear Is the Biggest Source of Enthusiasm SDJay Feb 2016 #20

I'm pro Sanders, but I'm not anti Clinton... MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #22

I support Bernie Sanders, but I will vigorously support Hilary if she wins the nomination! DrewFlorida Feb 2016 #24

Lobbyists and CEOs will be enthused. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #27

I've still yet to finCd anyone in the real world that claims Purveyor Feb 2016 #29

Enthusiasm for HRC? Zip. Nada. Goose-egg. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #30

why should any bernie sanders supporter vote for Hilary clintons Robbins Feb 2016 #31

The only reason I could think of at this point... Ken Burch Feb 2016 #40

What a bitter-sweet victory(?) that would be? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #50

HRC thinks we should be content with bitter-sweet. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #52

It wont matter to them SwampG8r Feb 2016 #51

No Champion Jack Feb 2016 #35

should fire up the GOP base quite a bit tk2kewl Feb 2016 #46

no...and i think she will lose because of it noiretextatique Feb 2016 #53

No matter who the Republican nominee is, they will turn out because they have had almost seven merrily Feb 2016 #55

we are doomed with clinton. noiretextatique Feb 2016 #57

Yes. Beacool Feb 2016 #61

I'm enthusiastic. wildeyed Feb 2016 #63

How's she supposed to be able to inspire the peasants while wearing her Goldman Handcuffs? backscatter712 Feb 2016 #64

I will vote against a Republican boobooday Feb 2016 #65

Some, yes. Probably enough. HassleCat Feb 2016 #66

Enthusiasm? hifiguy Feb 2016 #67

No The River Feb 2016 #69

There will be huge enthusiasm for Republicans coming out to vote against her! Dragonfli Feb 2016 #70

And they will show up like flies and buzzards for a dead buffalo on the prairie. hifiguy Feb 2016 #75

Most of us are done with voting for the "lesser of evils" Lorien Feb 2016 #76

Your vote belongs to you, you should feel free to use it any way you see fit Dragonfli Feb 2016 #79

I would never not vote! Local races are too important Lorien Feb 2016 #106

Yup, death by 1,000 papercuts is still death. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #81

All it will take is Trump saying "I contributed to her in 2008 and she did whatever I asked" Lorien Feb 2016 #72

I agree SwampG8r Feb 2016 #91

He has friends in the Mafia and is well known for double crossing people Lorien Feb 2016 #96

I cannot imagine being enthusiastic about a Pro-Death Penalty candidate. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #78

Try as you may, the enthusiasm will be there. Bleacher Creature Feb 2016 #80

Not a snowballs chance in Hell Lorien Feb 2016 #97

No . TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #83

Not a bit Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #87

no EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #88

That speculation is all fine and well Cosmocat Feb 2016 #90

No. I live in a blue neighborhood. Full of Obama signs in '08 and '12. Now, just Bernie signs; amborin Feb 2016 #95

Same here. Nothing but Bernie signs and bumper stickers in my neighborhood Lorien Feb 2016 #98

yes bigtree Feb 2016 #99

I don't WANT to suppress it. I want HRC to change and do the things that would INSPIRE it. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #137

More than with Napoleon in a winter campaign jberryhill Feb 2016 #101

as enthusiastic as I am about her DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #102

True ... I can, and will ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #108

I was goign to say I mean unenthusiatic DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #111

You mean ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #112

oh I will accept one DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #115

I have no problem with any of that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #116

oh I will be DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #117

Oh ... I'm pretty sure that, should she win the Office ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #121

Three Dimensional thinking DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #134

LOl ... It is mocked here ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #136

I can accept that there will be winners and losers DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #135

Among the traditional Democratic base, i.e., the (President) Obama coalition ... Yes. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #104

Wait until Bernie's arrivederci speech. ucrdem Feb 2016 #105

Probably not given how some Dems are doing their best to kill enthusiasm for her right now LonePirate Feb 2016 #107

I will be enthusiastic. madaboutharry Feb 2016 #110

Two recent posts with almost the exact same topic and comment. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #118

Perhaps Bernie supporters feel their votes are earned and not just taken for granted? Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #129

If she can't generate enthusiasm now, she won't generate enthusiasm then. Vinca Feb 2016 #122

A few people in her bubble maybe, and some senior Democrats who keep Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #123

Sure... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #125

They might support her, Beowulf Feb 2016 #128

With that attitude, we might as well Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #132

With MY attitude? Beowulf Feb 2016 #133

Democrats will stay away in droves yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #126

Thank goodness I live in a blue state Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #130