2016 Postmortem

backscatter712

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64. How's she supposed to be able to inspire the peasants while wearing her Goldman Handcuffs?

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:36 PM

Feb 2016

It really cramps her style.

She was counting on bullshit and bluster to be able to carry the day, but it isn't.

Yes, Hillary can lose to Trump. She's about as uninspiring, bland, and "Vote for us because we suck less" as DLC Dems get. And that's the kind of campaigning designed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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Does anyone really think there will be ANY enthusiasm in a fall campaign with HRC? [View all] Ken Burch Feb 2016 OP

well you are a guy mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #1

If she inspires enthusiasm among women, how did she LOSE the woman's vote in NH? Ken Burch Feb 2016 #4

she did very well in NH mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #7

She lost women in NH, 55%-44%. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #12

which is fine for a NH primary mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #17

She lost by 22 points in a state where she'd been thirty points ahead six months earlier. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #19

She LOST women Trajan Feb 2016 #84

I am more concerned about whether the DNC and Hillary's campaign razorman Feb 2016 #86

lalalalalalallalalalalalalalalala! tazkcmo Feb 2016 #127

This woman confirms what he said. The turnout in my family will be utterly dismal if Hillary JimDandy Feb 2016 #9

I don't take stock in polls mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #11

Not against repubs in general election matchup, she's not cali Feb 2016 #25

I don't either. I knew the polls were wrong--that Bernie was much stronger than they JimDandy Feb 2016 #36

well my point is mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #47

If ALL polls are notoriously unreliable...the polls showing HRC leading among POC Ken Burch Feb 2016 #58

really? you mean mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #62

not pollsters...HRC supporters using polls as if they prove Bernie isn't a legitimate candidate. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #92

it doesn't matter where the polls come from ... mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #94

I agree with this bravenak Feb 2016 #119

No turn out from my 840high Feb 2016 #71

They are not life long Democrats if they don't redstateblues Feb 2016 #131

Well, I'm a woman and she makes my skin crawl. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #18

re; "she makes my skin crawl" mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #21

Them too... Got it Feb 2016 #28

your political views mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #32

You just made the case for Bernie. n/t Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #93

Sure they do. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #73

Just a heads up in case you are new here Change has come Feb 2016 #113

which post are you referring to? mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #114

Well, I'm a woman and I have zero passion for her. Punkingal Feb 2016 #42

Me too. As a feminist I fought for the right to be hired on the worthiness of my work alone Lorien Feb 2016 #74

I hop I'm not hearing a sexism charge? floriduck Feb 2016 #82

hey individuals are individuals mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #85

If she gets it, it's up to her to generate it Paulie Feb 2016 #2

No worries on that front with Sanders. You won't hear one word about gun control.. frylock Feb 2016 #60

Bernie has been consistent for four decades on the issues. Lorien Feb 2016 #103

How about this slogan to stir up enthusiasm: Vote a 3rd term for Billary Clinton. n/t Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 #3

Wow, and I thought that "I'm a woman so I must be an outsider" was a shitty slogan Bucky Feb 2016 #8

"Billary Clinton" Bwahahahahaha snagglepuss Feb 2016 #39

It wil be "Who else are you going to vote for?" Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #124

Not if you keep this up here and all over social media, I mean what are randys1 Feb 2016 #5

If she is nominated, I want her to learn and listen. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #23

I agree with everything Bernie says and wants to do and I am sick and tired of randys1 Feb 2016 #26

Not what I was saying. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #33

So Black people who vote for her now, per your own words randys1 Feb 2016 #34

No. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #38

That is not what Ken's own words say at all and you hopefully know that. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #43

If she is not reliant on small donors then it is very hard for us to tell her that, other than not.. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #37

Voting is everything. She can raise a trillion, wont matter if we demand single payer randys1 Feb 2016 #44

How do we let her know that we won't be voting for her? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #48

I think a general strike is in order. People need to understand they have the power. randys1 Feb 2016 #49

I don't disagree with you. Just to add, at this point, we are getting dangerously close to violating JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #54

How? I am voting for whoever the Dem is, I dont know of any other rules randys1 Feb 2016 #56

Well, I think we were just talking about sitting out the 2020 re-election campaign, if I'm not JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #59

The chances of any Clinton listening to anyone without hifiguy Feb 2016 #68

It doesn't matter. HRC nomination = Republcan POTUS musiclawyer Feb 2016 #77

indies and millenials mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #120

In the gazillion or so FB groups for Bernie Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #89

+1. I personally only know of two Bernie supporters who are willing to hold their Lorien Feb 2016 #100

Really, you think one person can derail Hill? lol Logical Feb 2016 #109

I'll be enthusiastically anti-Trump, anti-Cruz, or anti-Rubio Bucky Feb 2016 #6

We'll all be passionately anti-GOP Ken Burch Feb 2016 #15

No. Kittycat Feb 2016 #10

+1 daleanime Feb 2016 #41

Yep. She is awesome. :) n/t Lucinda Feb 2016 #13

What about all the posts on your 'why are ppl concerned about Wall St. donors' OP? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #45

I feel my excitement level Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #14

I predict lots of enthusiasm noamnety Feb 2016 #16

My Fear Is the Biggest Source of Enthusiasm SDJay Feb 2016 #20

I'm pro Sanders, but I'm not anti Clinton... MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #22

I support Bernie Sanders, but I will vigorously support Hilary if she wins the nomination! DrewFlorida Feb 2016 #24

Lobbyists and CEOs will be enthused. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #27

I've still yet to finCd anyone in the real world that claims Purveyor Feb 2016 #29

Enthusiasm for HRC? Zip. Nada. Goose-egg. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #30

why should any bernie sanders supporter vote for Hilary clintons Robbins Feb 2016 #31

The only reason I could think of at this point... Ken Burch Feb 2016 #40

What a bitter-sweet victory(?) that would be? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #50

HRC thinks we should be content with bitter-sweet. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #52

It wont matter to them SwampG8r Feb 2016 #51

No Champion Jack Feb 2016 #35

should fire up the GOP base quite a bit tk2kewl Feb 2016 #46

no...and i think she will lose because of it noiretextatique Feb 2016 #53

No matter who the Republican nominee is, they will turn out because they have had almost seven merrily Feb 2016 #55

we are doomed with clinton. noiretextatique Feb 2016 #57

Yes. Beacool Feb 2016 #61

I'm enthusiastic. wildeyed Feb 2016 #63

How's she supposed to be able to inspire the peasants while wearing her Goldman Handcuffs? backscatter712 Feb 2016 #64

I will vote against a Republican boobooday Feb 2016 #65

Some, yes. Probably enough. HassleCat Feb 2016 #66

Enthusiasm? hifiguy Feb 2016 #67

No The River Feb 2016 #69

There will be huge enthusiasm for Republicans coming out to vote against her! Dragonfli Feb 2016 #70

And they will show up like flies and buzzards for a dead buffalo on the prairie. hifiguy Feb 2016 #75

Most of us are done with voting for the "lesser of evils" Lorien Feb 2016 #76

Your vote belongs to you, you should feel free to use it any way you see fit Dragonfli Feb 2016 #79

I would never not vote! Local races are too important Lorien Feb 2016 #106

Yup, death by 1,000 papercuts is still death. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #81

All it will take is Trump saying "I contributed to her in 2008 and she did whatever I asked" Lorien Feb 2016 #72

I agree SwampG8r Feb 2016 #91

He has friends in the Mafia and is well known for double crossing people Lorien Feb 2016 #96

I cannot imagine being enthusiastic about a Pro-Death Penalty candidate. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #78

Try as you may, the enthusiasm will be there. Bleacher Creature Feb 2016 #80

Not a snowballs chance in Hell Lorien Feb 2016 #97

No . TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #83

Not a bit Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #87

no EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #88

That speculation is all fine and well Cosmocat Feb 2016 #90

No. I live in a blue neighborhood. Full of Obama signs in '08 and '12. Now, just Bernie signs; amborin Feb 2016 #95

Same here. Nothing but Bernie signs and bumper stickers in my neighborhood Lorien Feb 2016 #98

yes bigtree Feb 2016 #99

I don't WANT to suppress it. I want HRC to change and do the things that would INSPIRE it. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #137

More than with Napoleon in a winter campaign jberryhill Feb 2016 #101

as enthusiastic as I am about her DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #102

True ... I can, and will ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #108

I was goign to say I mean unenthusiatic DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #111

You mean ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #112

oh I will accept one DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #115

I have no problem with any of that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #116

oh I will be DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #117

Oh ... I'm pretty sure that, should she win the Office ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #121

Three Dimensional thinking DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #134

LOl ... It is mocked here ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #136

I can accept that there will be winners and losers DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #135

Among the traditional Democratic base, i.e., the (President) Obama coalition ... Yes. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #104

Wait until Bernie's arrivederci speech. ucrdem Feb 2016 #105

Probably not given how some Dems are doing their best to kill enthusiasm for her right now LonePirate Feb 2016 #107

I will be enthusiastic. madaboutharry Feb 2016 #110

Two recent posts with almost the exact same topic and comment. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #118

Perhaps Bernie supporters feel their votes are earned and not just taken for granted? Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #129

If she can't generate enthusiasm now, she won't generate enthusiasm then. Vinca Feb 2016 #122

A few people in her bubble maybe, and some senior Democrats who keep Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #123

Sure... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #125

They might support her, Beowulf Feb 2016 #128

With that attitude, we might as well Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #132

With MY attitude? Beowulf Feb 2016 #133

Democrats will stay away in droves yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #126

Thank goodness I live in a blue state Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #130