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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: There will come a point when people have to admit that Sanders's polls vs. Republicans [View all]Chathamization
(1,638 posts)60. The claim that her negative are already locked in and won't change much also seems to be false
Going by this chart, the line that everyone has known her for so long that she's hit her floor in terms of negative feelings seems to be flat out wrong. It's also somewhat odd to claim that everyone knows so much about her that they've already made up her mind about her, and then claim that the general election polls are meaningless - at the very least, they should show how much support she has out there (again, if you went by the flawed narrative that most people have already made up their mind about her).
It's also worth looking at the polling trends. We're not just seeing statistical noise here, but a clear downward trend in terms of Clinton's match up against Republicans, and a clear upward trend in terms of Sanders match up against Republicans.
Of course, none of this means we can be certain about how the general election plays out. But throwing out data as meaningless and going by gut feelings instead doesn't seem like a great idea.
It's also worth looking at the polling trends. We're not just seeing statistical noise here, but a clear downward trend in terms of Clinton's match up against Republicans, and a clear upward trend in terms of Sanders match up against Republicans.
Of course, none of this means we can be certain about how the general election plays out. But throwing out data as meaningless and going by gut feelings instead doesn't seem like a great idea.
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There will come a point when people have to admit that Sanders's polls vs. Republicans [View all]
Recursion
Feb 2016
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Presidential match ups this far out lack predictive power, Please open the link
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2016
#10
She has run two successful races in populous and heterogeneous states./nt
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2016
#18
You didn't debunk anything. You called me out from an anonymous internet connection
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2016
#39
What crap will be left to fling at Bernie in the General that hasn't been flung at him by
Dustlawyer
Feb 2016
#43
Oh my goodness! That's so scary, how could he possibly survive what his old girlfriends
Dustlawyer
Feb 2016
#48
"Clinton is an amazing progressive politician who has done tireless (and thankless) work for all.."
RiverLover
Feb 2016
#3
For that matter, are you *that* tone-deaf that you couldn't tell what the audience of this post was?
Recursion
Feb 2016
#8
I think Trump would destroy Clinton, he'll go after Bill and Hillary both with a vengance . . .
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#11
Head to head polls become meaningful upon the candidate's presumptive nomination.
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2016
#14
Bernie supports universal healthcare, a living wage, fair trade, & affordable education
think
Feb 2016
#17
No...because the Republicans haven't even begun to think about dismantling Sanders
Yog-Sothoth
Feb 2016
#19
What dsc is absolutely true. You're comment does not respond to dsc's points. You move the goalposts
stevenleser
Feb 2016
#41
Your first two sentences are particularly important for anyone really trying to understand the
stevenleser
Feb 2016
#38
How many times are you going to ignore the common denominator in 1984, 1972 and 1968?
stevenleser
Feb 2016
#44
Ever since Reagain, the "New Democrats" have used that tax threat to destroy Democratic
RiverLover
Feb 2016
#45
Are you assuming Bloomberg is not serious that he will run if Sanders and either Trump or Cruz are
seaglass
Feb 2016
#55
The claim that her negative are already locked in and won't change much also seems to be false
Chathamization
Feb 2016
#60