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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Of course she is for marriage equality now... [View all]LonePirate
(14,334 posts)54. I never claimed he evolved. I asked if his first opinion on the topic was in support of it.
If his first opinion was in support of it, then he did not evolve. If his first opinion was against it before changing his mind to be in favor of it, then he evolved. I simply questioned the claim that he was right the first time, something we likely do not know with any certainty. That claim, not mine, is what you should be asking to be proved. He may have had an opinion on the matter before 1972 and if that opinion was not in support of it, then he obviously evolved. If he has always had that opinion, then he did not evolve. It's a pretty simple concept. I do not care if he or Hillary or anyone else evolved on the issue. I am only concerned about whether or not they support it today.
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Considering the smoke and mirrors....Has she taken an actual stand in terms of those issues?
virtualobserver
Feb 2016
#33
Bernie voted against DOMA in 1996 and never opposed marriage equality.
beam me up scottie
Feb 2016
#28
He didn't vote against DOMA on a courageous stand in favor of same sex marriage
mythology
Feb 2016
#39
That's the blogger's opinion, I provided the transcript, point out where he said he opposed it.
beam me up scottie
Feb 2016
#47
Are you implying that you would respect her more if she was against marriage equality?
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#6
You're admitting you would respect her more if she maintained her old anti-marriage equality stance?
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#8
I thought only Repubs preferred candidates to stick to a position instead of doing the right thing
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#11
A denial is something like "I never said that." Her words do not even approach that.
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#73
So it's wrong for someone to adopt a more progressive position than what they believed previously?
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#19
What difference does it make what she believed before if she is for the progressive position now?
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#24
You're suggesting she would sign an anti-marriage equality bill passed by a Repub Congress.
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#35
i would not respect her even if she admitted she was against gay marriage
noiretextatique
Feb 2016
#14
Unless his first opinion on the issue back in the 60s was in favor it, then he has evolved.
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#48
Nope, you claimed he evolved so it's up to you to prove he opposed it.
beam me up scottie
Feb 2016
#51
I never claimed he evolved. I asked if his first opinion on the topic was in support of it.
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#54
It makes a difference because she pretends to be a champion but wasn't.
beam me up scottie
Feb 2016
#57
I'm not "hung up" on them, I said her opposition to equality matters to me.
beam me up scottie
Feb 2016
#66
You seem to be only concerned about the past. I prefer to focus on the present and future.
LonePirate
Feb 2016
#75
Or is she lying? She called marriage a "Sacred" bond between a man and a woman.
Motown_Johnny
Feb 2016
#21
Bernie Sanders Claims He’s a Longtime Champion of Marriage Equality. It’s Just Not True.
fun n serious
Feb 2016
#27
And he explained that, he wanted states to be able to pass it without being overturned by the feds.
beam me up scottie
Feb 2016
#52