If the head to head polls showed HRC doing BETTER than Bernie against the Rethugs...

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2. I dunno if she could've beaten McCain/Palin in 08.

She has NONE of the charisma of Obama.
She inspired nothing. She was already running on empty.
People already knew who she was.

Now in 2016 she couldn't beat a turnip. The MSM and her billion dollar campaign can spin it as they want, but in a GE she won't inspire anything but revulsion at the idea of a president owing to such an incredible backlog of payola and graft. Her militarism is front and center - it's what she is, a hawk who will bring death and destruction to the tune of fat profits in a way not seen since Reagan. People won't want that on their conscience. They just won't - people have had enough and more than enough of the war profiteering, the payola, the corruption.

She hasn't a chance.