2016 Postmortem

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Sanders: Clinton is embracing Obama to pander to black voters [View all] Empowerer Feb 2016 OP

Yeah, so? Renew Deal Feb 2016 #1

You KNOW that BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #101

Sanders cozies up to people who call Obama vile racialized words like Cornell West has and Clinton uponit7771 Feb 2016 #2

In 2008, Clinton used racist dog whistles against the black candidate LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #82

And black people still support her. WOW! What's wrong with them? Empowerer Feb 2016 #84

Did you get free manure when you bought all that straw? LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #89

good question: she gets pass on almost everthing noiretextatique Feb 2016 #117

In re this BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #104

Not even remotely similar LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #106

Of course not. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #107

So you can't refute it? Ok then LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #108

Remember when Obama was 'cozying up to' bad actors like Bill Ayers? Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #123

ummmm no, this is not even close.... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #125

You're right, its much less important. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #126

Ayers was never an Obama surrogate uponit7771 Feb 2016 #127

Cornel West isn't a radical. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #128

Strawman, no one said he was... just an overt jerk and Obama basher who is missing uponit7771 Feb 2016 #134

so she DIDNT just start cozying up to the pres restorefreedom Feb 2016 #3

lol Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #8

No, she didn't Empowerer Feb 2016 #9

so i guess the #obamasnuggle trend on twitter restorefreedom Feb 2016 #18

No more than Berniebros movement represents all Bernie supporters Empowerer Feb 2016 #21

berniebros...how convenient restorefreedom Feb 2016 #27

I've only seen YOU online. Do you not exist? Empowerer Feb 2016 #29

lol. of course they exist, but as many hillary supporters claim about online polls restorefreedom Feb 2016 #35

Be careful! Posts with that word are being alerted on and hidden. betsuni Feb 2016 #31

You never know what is going to be hidden on this board and that is an abomination. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #88

Indeed. Empowerer's post was hidden. betsuni Feb 2016 #103

Saw that Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #109

she was criticizing him in 2014 about foreign policy noiretextatique Feb 2016 #114

No she didn't, that's not even reality... she was his choice for SoS and had a close relationship uponit7771 Feb 2016 #11

she was his "choice" for sos restorefreedom Feb 2016 #15

Sanders folk even discount the relationship she had with PBO, after the election they had a REAL uponit7771 Feb 2016 #20

her own words will not come clear on tpp restorefreedom Feb 2016 #23

The TPP changed since she was SOS, Im not a LIV and if sophistry is all you have on this uponit7771 Feb 2016 #30

it is a horrid deal that will screw american workers and consumers, cost jobs, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #37

I don't support the TPP and its been a knock of mine against Obama. That doesn't mean I haven't... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #39

he doesnt bash obama every chance he gets restorefreedom Feb 2016 #50

That is ridiculous. He didn't nominate her for SOS until he became president. boston bean Feb 2016 #46

yes, i am sure that at a contentious convention restorefreedom Feb 2016 #53

More conspiracy jibberish. boston bean Feb 2016 #55

Why are you spinning this, she nominated him at the convention Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #62

i did not say he named her restorefreedom Feb 2016 #72

Where is the link. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #77

we need links for opinions now? restorefreedom Feb 2016 #95

Okay, now that you are saying it is an opinion but don't spin the story out of bounds. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #97

it was an opinion, with a little added snark, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #99

Perhaps some of the same conversations Sanders has been having with Nina Turner? Empowerer Feb 2016 #81

lol. its a little early to be having chats restorefreedom Feb 2016 #96

And how would this affect the PUMA vote vdogg Feb 2016 #102

people follow their leader restorefreedom Feb 2016 #105

hillary criticizes obama on foreign policy in 2014 noiretextatique Feb 2016 #116

You do know that you can agree with someone on most things and disagree on others and all american girl Feb 2016 #149

No. We are at a point where we disagree on the basic tenets noiretextatique Feb 2016 #150

She was his SOS. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #4

so she would not primary him in 12 Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #7

Oh for FS. There was no way she was going to primary him in 2012. What are you smoking? nt Fla Dem Feb 2016 #118

YES!!! The real Sanders outside of VT doesn't hang around Cornell West as much as he did in IA... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #13

I felt the same way - I didn't believe it when I first saw the quote Empowerer Feb 2016 #17

+1, I didnt even think about from that angle I just thought it wasn't reality seeing they had... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #22

Between his performance last night - particularly his bizarre responses on race - and this Empowerer Feb 2016 #32

+1, instead of building a relationship they expected a life time hood pass for some shit he did.... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #38

+1 bravenak Feb 2016 #42

+1 bravenak Feb 2016 #41

This gif makes me snicker every time I see it. betsuni Feb 2016 #47

It's the best thing this week bravenak Feb 2016 #49

I don't think they're close. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #64

A Rift in Worldviews Is Exposed as Clinton Faults Obama on Policy noiretextatique Feb 2016 #119

This couldn't be any more obvious. Broward Feb 2016 #5

yep, it is true Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #6

To proffer their relationship hadn't drastically changed since this is fake and beneath Sanders uponit7771 Feb 2016 #14

Yeah they now share mutual self interest while in 08 they were fighting over the same new toy. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #76

Hillary should go on TV and ask them to play a video of Sanders surrogate Cornell West calling Obama uponit7771 Feb 2016 #10

She should go on TV and be shown tapes of her ranting against LGBT equality. Then she should give Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #78

And in other news Kentonio Feb 2016 #12

Berne is correct. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #16

You and Bernie reduce Obama and black voters down to the lowest common denominator: their race Empowerer Feb 2016 #19

Nope, though, you may. I don't pretend to think that any race will fall for Hillary's pandering. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #24

+1, this is a very desperate move by Sanders... I would like to see video at this point. His interna uponit7771 Feb 2016 #36

What was Bill Clinton lecturing a black audience the other day Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #87

Bernie is realizing his "revolution" isn't bringing in the marginalized like it is supposed to makin uponit7771 Feb 2016 #26

Keep trying. I didn't find your ridiculous argument clever the multiple other times you used it, Live and Learn Feb 2016 #34

I don't hate math and science, poll numbers show me all I need to know about the revolution... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #44

Yep, just like they did in Iowa. How long until you realize the pollsters don't have a clue on how Live and Learn Feb 2016 #56

Of course she is. What's new? LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #25

Little does she know... loyalsister Feb 2016 #28

Truth (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #33

And that's why I like Bernie, he tells it like it is. You and all of us know this is the thruth. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #40

That's why Trump voters like him - "He tells it like it is"- and says what they're thinking but Empowerer Feb 2016 #60

Maybe, but Bernie is also running away from firebrand80 Feb 2016 #43

+1, anyone see Cornell West on stage with Sanders like he was in IA?! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #45

Because she should be hanging around Cornel West types to make things easier for him. bravenak Feb 2016 #48

At least she isn't making false promises to people. boston bean Feb 2016 #52

Fucking magic beans, Boston. bravenak Feb 2016 #58

It is actually sort of really sad, brave. boston bean Feb 2016 #59

I get pissed. bravenak Feb 2016 #61

It is the worst of politics, imho. boston bean Feb 2016 #63

Pretty much bravenak Feb 2016 #65

Yep. boston bean Feb 2016 #66

I thought it was precious that when Hillary went to Flint, many here called that "pandering" too Number23 Feb 2016 #143

��This Empowerer Feb 2016 #145

Interacting with black people is pandering now bravenak Feb 2016 #147

Sanders was sure copying Clinton last night and priaising Obama--er poandering to Obama for riversedge Feb 2016 #51

He really said this? mcar Feb 2016 #54

Basta! cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #57

I guess BS thinks beating up the President is gonna win him lots of votes in the south???? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #67

Or reducing black voters support for the President down to the lowest common racial element . . . Empowerer Feb 2016 #68

He does seem to be floundering a bit to me. But they both are, to a certain extent. randome Feb 2016 #69

Is this really that big of a deal? casperthegm Feb 2016 #70

Yes, it is a big deal Empowerer Feb 2016 #80

Disagree casperthegm Feb 2016 #148

It's yet another absolutely tone-deaf comment. Or worse maybe it isn't. Recursion Feb 2016 #140

Clinton thinks Black voters are stupid. n/t Odin2005 Feb 2016 #71

The Pander Bear... NOT an endangered species! Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #73

Bernie stating the obvious, that's Clinton in her cynical campaign style. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #74

8 years ago she disparaged Obama for not having enough support Nyan Feb 2016 #75

We poor black people don't know that we're being pandered to-but fortunately we have you to tell us Empowerer Feb 2016 #85

Mind posting a source for that quote so we can read it in context. Or is it just more hot air? nt Fla Dem Feb 2016 #121

Google keywords if you're curious. Sources are everywhere. Nyan Feb 2016 #132

A campaign comment made 8 years ago regarding then Sen Obama's Fla Dem Feb 2016 #133

Any person who will oppose the rights of one group for 20 years is a person who should not be Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #79

And any person who would try to defend Sanders indefensible comment by trying to deflect to a Empowerer Feb 2016 #83

She should cling to President Obama. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #86

Sanders 'pandering' to black voters since Clinton campaigned for a segregationist. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #90

Organizing and being arrested isn't pandering Empowerer Feb 2016 #91

Talking about it all the time? Link please. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #94

She was his Secretary of State liberal N proud Feb 2016 #92

The Bernie supporters that I know voted for Obama iwannaknow Feb 2016 #93

Stupid statement by Sanders. TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #98

He's just getting cranky. These late hours are getting to him. nt Fla Dem Feb 2016 #122

I agree with Sanders! nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #100

Prof. West is a bad surrogate for Sanders Gothmog Feb 2016 #110

Honestly don't know what he thinks that kind of comment accomplishes. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #111

It's funny how ONE word in the title can tilt everything dana_b Feb 2016 #112

Wow... Spazito Feb 2016 #113

Yeah, I hope that his statement is broadcast all over SC, NC, TN, GA, VA, MS, AL & AR. Beacool Feb 2016 #120

Yep... Spazito Feb 2016 #124

Sanders offers an agenda that he will never be able to pass through Congress to pander to liberals. Beacool Feb 2016 #115

then we need a new congress noiretextatique Feb 2016 #129

we need a new congress even if Trump wins, and I am not sure why people need marching orders from bettyellen Feb 2016 #131

I may be going out on a limb here, but President Obama choose Hillary to be his SOS. His press Sec still_one Feb 2016 #130

I swear Weaver is trying to fuck this up. joshcryer Feb 2016 #135

No, he knows what white voters respond to, IMO Recursion Feb 2016 #142

President Obama is popular with white Democrats too. Dumb statement. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #136

But white voters are just people - their race is irrelevant, so metioning it is racebaiting Empowerer Feb 2016 #137

Of course! nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #138

Bingo. And for the coalition he's going for, he *has* to keep blowing that whistle Recursion Feb 2016 #141

Good GOD you nailed it. Number23 Feb 2016 #144

Exactly Empowerer Feb 2016 #146

Ouch. He *absolutely* has to fix this tin ear. Now. (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #139

Can we all spell P A N D E R?????? Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #151