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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
53. Here are some examples.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:38 AM
Feb 2016

1) She misrepresented the right wing Beacon poll in Nevada that was the first to show a tie by describing it as a "push poll". She knows polling and she knows, without doubt, that it was not a push poll but was instead based on a much larger sample size than most news polling.
See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1240812

2) Here is a case where she lied using a chart to misrepresent that fact that Hillary's lead over Sanders has steadily decreased over the past year: Clinton ethics claim another victim as Rachel Maddow plays chart game
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511257526

I'll limit the sample size to 3).

Here is Hartmann taking Rachel to task for misrepresenting turnout data in New Hampshire:

Bernie’s 'Political Revolution' Is Actually Happening, Although the Corporate Media Won’t Tell You That
Don't rely on the media to tell you what's going on.


Bernie Sanders has made voter-turnout history, getting about a third more votes than any other primary candidate in the history of New Hampshire primaries, but much of our media is reporting the opposite; that it’s no big deal what he’s accomplishing.

Rachel Maddow rolled out the latest confused bit of reporting on the evening of Friday, February 12th. Whether this ended up on the air as a Maddow-producer “brilliant idea” or was suggested by the Clinton campaign is unknown, but the entire piece was confounding.

Rachel started by saying that the rationale for Bernie’s becoming president and actually getting something done (when Obama had such difficulty) is that Bernie’s mobilizing huge numbers of new and energized voters. She showed a bunch of examples of his talking about his “political revolution” and how he’s bringing new people into politics.

Then she dropped the anvil, as she does so well.

It turns out that fewer people showed up to vote Democratic in New Hampshire and Iowa this year than they did in Obama’s 2008! If that’s the case – and it is – then how could Bernie possibly claim that he’s “energizing” “new” people? He must be running a con on us, or he’s just a deluded old man who dreams of revolution but nobody’s really showing up.

Time to doubt both Bernie and his ideas, right?

After all, as Rachel points out, “40,000 fewer people voted in this year’s New Hampshire Democratic primary than did in 2008,” she said. Adding, for emphasis, the three-word sentence: “Forty thousand less!”

“And it was the same story in Iowa last week,” Rachel continued. “Voter turnout was a record for Republicans in Iowa, but on the Democratic side it was down. Iowa voter turnout on the Democratic side was DOWN from 2008!”

Clearly Bernie’s campaign is running a scam, right? The entire rationale for his candidacy is built on sand. His “revolution” isn’t happening so far, so why might it happen later? Time to doubt that Bernie’s claims of political change are even possible, much less reasonable.

However…

Rachel missed a few facts – something unusual for her usually brilliant political analysis...
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernies-political-revolution-actually-happening-although-corporate-media-wont-tell-you

Want more? I have recommended a lot of right leaning friends and relatives to Rachel's show with the claim that she is excruciatingly honest. Her betrayal of that standard has really pissed me off and I'm just about ready to sit down and make a project of her duplicitous reporting.

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All those that abandoned Obama for failing to magically implement their policy wishes Chico Man Feb 2016 #102
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+1000000 SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #123
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To think Obama hasn't tried.. Chico Man Feb 2016 #135
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Listen to President Jimmy Carter agree with you! Akamai Feb 2016 #16
Backed up by empirical data kristopher Feb 2016 #31
Thom Hartmann has been discussing this research for well over Akamai Feb 2016 #153
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sadly, that about sums it up. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #76
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Not liars. Just water carriers for those who butter their bread. nt mhatrw Feb 2016 #12
Sell outs then. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #18
Why do you think the people are - and this is fact - powerless? kristopher Feb 2016 #34
So there is undue influence of money Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #44
They are playing a part. kristopher Feb 2016 #64
To this, add the notion that all presidents since late 70s have been Reaganites. immoderate Feb 2016 #191
Money = political influence and power. No money = no influence and no power. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #204
I think a lot of people think that being a citizen means more than indentured servitude. nt kristopher Feb 2016 #207
It damn well should be onecaliberal Feb 2016 #210
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Yes, I'm pouting while I write Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #43
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Indeed Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #99
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And liars do too. n/t jtuck004 Feb 2016 #48
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After Chris Hayes' show yesterday, add Luis Gutierrez cheapdate Feb 2016 #83
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Well said Dem2 Feb 2016 #211
Is there no end to the conspiracies people will invent against Sanders? mythology Feb 2016 #9
It is not a conspiracy and her represetation is not supported by the FACTS. Skwmom Feb 2016 #10
Here are some examples. kristopher Feb 2016 #53
It's pretty disappointing... Merryland Feb 2016 #58
Randi Rhodes has felt that way about Rachel Maddow since the Air America days. Snotcicles Feb 2016 #126
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Iraq War vote, NAFTA, TPP, paleotn Feb 2016 #32
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Lighten up, Francis. nt msanthrope Feb 2016 #40
So let me get this straight... paleotn Feb 2016 #47
I didn't say if agreed or disagreed. I merely noted that a white, male Senator who voted to msanthrope Feb 2016 #52
But you critisize Bernie.... paleotn Feb 2016 #61
No......I merely note that Maddow is accurate. He's a politician. nt msanthrope Feb 2016 #72
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Mrs.? betsuni Feb 2016 #14
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This is why I quit watching her newfie11 Feb 2016 #27
Or she has a different opinion than you. I mean that's at least a possibility, right? randome Feb 2016 #29
Not for them. They need a conspiracy because they want to save face and they want to create stevenleser Feb 2016 #215
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Rachael is fine. Some people just can't handle the truth. RealAmericanDem Feb 2016 #54
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As pointed out upstream so many have turned. peace13 Feb 2016 #65
... NuclearDem Feb 2016 #67
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Building bridges all the way, isn't he? randome Feb 2016 #97
IKR? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #133
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Sell out stump speech The Wizard Feb 2016 #78
Bernie Sanders is a politician. betsuni Feb 2016 #81
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"Went Trump 24/7" ?? SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #169
Have you watched? brush Feb 2016 #170
News flash: SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #172
News flash yourself: I'm not the only perturbed that a formerly progressive network features Trump brush Feb 2016 #180
Oh yeah SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #181
I didn't say right winger. You did. I said she stayed when the network shifted right . . . brush Feb 2016 #189
The mainstream media is pretty unbearable at the moment. Merryland Feb 2016 #155
Rachael says what MSNBC wants her to say. She chooses to stay with the network. Sad really. jalan48 Feb 2016 #86
What would be funny is the fact that after all this INdemo Feb 2016 #88
You're gonna need a bigger bus. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2016 #92
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This not a complicated moral dilemma. COMCAST has endorsed Hillary FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #111
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Ethics......................................... turbinetree Feb 2016 #113
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There are a handful of very smart, level headed and reasonable Sanders supporters here stevenleser Feb 2016 #218
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some people are fueled by hate. they don't represent a significant percentage of Bernie geek tragedy Feb 2016 #144
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it's typically what they do during non-primary season too nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #161
Why is she still on that network though, that has shifted hard to the right . . . brush Feb 2016 #168
I never thought I'd see Maddow attacked here on DU JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #122
The trashing of Our Democratic President on DU redstateblues Feb 2016 #136
Why is it an attack when it's the truth? Cleita Feb 2016 #147
I've never seen so much nonsense... JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #162
Sophistry usually has some truth in it uponit7771 Feb 2016 #201
I dunno, as a Hillary supporter, she strikes me as... Adrahil Feb 2016 #203
Wealthy "Democrats for Oligarchy", strategically placed. Zorra Feb 2016 #130
I have lost all respect for Maddow...she has become a total shill. SoapBox Feb 2016 #131
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So honest that he only joined the Democratic Party redstateblues Feb 2016 #208
He did it not to be a spoiler like Ross Perot or Ralph Nader did running Cleita Feb 2016 #209
I saw Maddow shilling for HRC left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #139
2016 is a big test for America. The fact that Rachel Maddow seems Ron Green Feb 2016 #140
Rachel under the BernieBro bus itsrobert Feb 2016 #145
The best response is to stop watching her show and let her know why... raindaddy Feb 2016 #149
So many true progressives under that Sanders bus it can't drive no more. eom MohRokTah Feb 2016 #151
Hope you brought a big bus to keep throwing people under... JCMach1 Feb 2016 #154
They're diving under it themselves. nt Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #182
For the record, I am truly undecided and comfortable with either candidate... JCMach1 Feb 2016 #183
Well, for the record I haven't actually been one of those piling on the abuse... Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #196
NP, mostly stay out of GDP during the Primary... JCMach1 Feb 2016 #223
I didn't see any "outrage" or lying in Maddow's piece. DirkGently Feb 2016 #156
Bernie has been calling out the corporate media lately - YES RACHEL that includes you. And why jillan Feb 2016 #171
Everyone is corruptible by a paycheck. Comcast doesn't want Bernie. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #174
The BSers are running out of Dems/progressives to throw under the bus. stopbush Feb 2016 #177
And I just saw that BSer's were throwing people under the bus Politicalboi Feb 2016 #178
Rachel Maddow doesn't always say nice things about hilary, to my ears. Both sides can't win 100%.. dubyadiprecession Feb 2016 #179
So if Hillary wins does that mean those republicans decided to vote for Hillary because she will be jillan Feb 2016 #186
If you told me 6 months ago a Maddow trashing thread... joshcryer Feb 2016 #187
They've not only gone off the deep end, they're drilling new depths. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #214
If you had told me 6 mos ago Maddow would be shilling for a third way centrist RiverLover Feb 2016 #216
In the best sense, H2O Man Feb 2016 #190
So many thrown under the bus--do you have anybody left? book_worm Feb 2016 #195
Rachel destroyed DWS over superdelegates today. Change your mind? dsharp88 Feb 2016 #197
Perhaps job security, notoriety and living inside a bubble does that to you... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #198
Two words... Cornell West... Any questions? tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #199
Yet, she keeps stating she is a liberal, to distinguish herself from supporters of Hillary. merrily Feb 2016 #202
Your last sentence warrprayer Feb 2016 #205
We're going to need a bigger bus! grossproffit Feb 2016 #217
are we talking about Rachel Maddow, the entertainer?...because that is all islandmkl Feb 2016 #220
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