2016 Postmortem

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61. They would prefer an independent run? I am being insulted by those who

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Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:05 PM

Feb 2016

supposedly want my vote in Nov. With this kind of disrespect it is clear that they would prefer to let the democratic party die.

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "Sanders is not a Democrat" [View all] left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 OP

She must be sweating bullets about now... Merryland Feb 2016 #1

Her head is on the chopping block HassleCat Feb 2016 #80

I am a Bernie supporter but will vote for Hill if she's th nominee, but having said that, napi21 Feb 2016 #177

Certainly if Sanders wins, that's the case. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #222

She's right, he his NOT a registered Democrat. eom MohRokTah Feb 2016 #2

Pat Leahy is not a registered democrat. Gov Shumlin is not a registered democrat. cali Feb 2016 #4

Paul Wellstone, Mark Dayton, Al Franken, Walter Mondale aren't registered democrats either azurnoir Feb 2016 #74

Russ Feingold and Tammy Baldwin as far as I know are not registered Democrats. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #204

No, they aren't. You don't register by party in Wisconsin. Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #213

Senator Patty Murray, D - Washington is not a registerd Dem either. FuzzyRabbit Feb 2016 #160

I think he's still running for his Senate seat as an Indy bravenak Feb 2016 #10

Yep, he's nothing but a DINO. eom MohRokTah Feb 2016 #16

Just wants to borrow the Democratic party machine. EGO.nt bravenak Feb 2016 #21

IMO, Sanders' ego makes Trump seem positively humble. eom MohRokTah Feb 2016 #25

Damn straight.nt bravenak Feb 2016 #29

Yeah, that's right. Ron Green Feb 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author cali Feb 2016 #52

Please post pics of your goatee. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #69

Lol 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #82

? 6chars Feb 2016 #114

Just didn't want to play the role of spoiler. cali Feb 2016 #41

Oh bull. Ego bravenak Feb 2016 #42

Codswallop. I'm a Vermonter. You know little about him. cali Feb 2016 #57

I know he is not sufficient bravenak Feb 2016 #66

We know, we know- NOT GOOD EOUGH BERNIE 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #83

I WAS bravenak Feb 2016 #143

Lol 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #146

Yet it seems perhaps sufficient enough to beat your (supposedly) preferred candidate. Kentonio Feb 2016 #87

Not really bravenak Feb 2016 #90

I do like Jill Stein. Kentonio Feb 2016 #95

High five!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #99

fascinating given Hillary is a 3rd-Way conservative and a consummate liar. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #127

Why ar you telling ME this? bravenak Feb 2016 #128

Sufficient? Bwahahaha cali Feb 2016 #136

I do that too when I hear he's gonna win. bravenak Feb 2016 #141

To swelling Wall Street coffers? No, he isn't. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #173

To black voters bravenak Feb 2016 #175

You own the market on BULL. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #202

Yeah right bravenak Feb 2016 #210

Not, his Senate seat is not up till 2018 awake Feb 2016 #40

Yeah right. bravenak Feb 2016 #45

I did not know that POTUS could hold a seat in the Senate at the same time awake Feb 2016 #51

He would need the black vote to be POTUS bravenak Feb 2016 #54

I love the way that Hillary's supporters think that they "own" the black vote awake Feb 2016 #59

I'm black, nothing 'white' about me bravenak Feb 2016 #64

I think he has more of the non white vote than you think. 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #89

You have no idea what I think or what my 'circle' looks like bravenak Feb 2016 #94

I think you post enough that we all know 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #100

Not enough bravenak Feb 2016 #103

Lol 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #130

You only know what I say bravenak Feb 2016 #138

Your circle is irrelevant anecdotal stuff, not evidence of anything cali Feb 2016 #139

That poster brought my circle up bravenak Feb 2016 #142

How's she going to win without madville Feb 2016 #102

He is not beating her by much with the white vote bravenak Feb 2016 #107

Yes, Indy's do what they want--that is precisely the point. They are 40% of RVs, and don't back her. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #155

They cannot vote in all primaries bravenak Feb 2016 #156

Yes, and I was talking about the General Election where she is toast. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #161

He won't even make it that far and would get creamed after the attack ads bravenak Feb 2016 #162

Hardly the point -- I was talking about her inability to convince Independents; not about Bernie. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #164

She can convince Democrats bravenak Feb 2016 #165

Democrats are not enough to win a general election. That is why I was speaking about Independents. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #166

I am a democrat bravenak Feb 2016 #167

Only silly talk if you don't want to win a general election. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #168

We are in primary season bravenak Feb 2016 #169

What about the Hillary supporters saying "reconsider voting for Hillary because she's electable?" JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #171

You should ask them bravenak Feb 2016 #172

I do wonder about this (assuming you mean the primary not the general) Kentonio Feb 2016 #110

Oh bravenak Feb 2016 #124

I definitely don't think you should EVER ignore black voters. Kentonio Feb 2016 #132

That's pretty much it bravenak Feb 2016 #137

Agreed. Kentonio Feb 2016 #144

Yep. I'm watching with excitement bravenak Feb 2016 #145

His Independent Campaign Committee is already raising money for an independent run. eom MohRokTah Feb 2016 #73

Link? Proof to the FEC reports? Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #91

. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #108

"... he's still running for his Senate seat as an Indy" left-of-center2012 Feb 2016 #184

So? bravenak Feb 2016 #188

I've checked the Democratic rules and regulations Perogie Feb 2016 #15

You know who is not acting like a dem? 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #88

What? You don't have to have blood drawn and sit through a 3-hour oriention? frylock Feb 2016 #211

Looks like you may have lost this round. pangaia Feb 2016 #208

pssst.... hey debbie.... EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #3

Which makes her the perfect judge of this things.... daleanime Feb 2016 #32

Ironic. Octafish Feb 2016 #191

So why did SHE allow him to run on the Democratic Party ticket? Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #5

Because she is beigger than the Sandersitas? (nt) question everything Feb 2016 #17

She is a picture of a horrible democrat cali Feb 2016 #23

What's a beigger? daleanime Feb 2016 #35

Then why is she whining now? Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #44

Well, exactly. The national committee(s) that decide whether a person Nay Feb 2016 #181

It's because she thought he would be a footnote in August. frylock Feb 2016 #214

They never expected him to get this far. TDale313 Feb 2016 #22

That is exactly right. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #47

I seem to recall Sanders being praised up and down for running as a Dem pengu Feb 2016 #186

Didn't he have to pledge not to hit Hillary from the left BuelahWitch Feb 2016 #220

The bloody sweats and cold regrets none know so well as she yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #30

Here's Why noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #119

I happen to agree with her on this point. FarPoint Feb 2016 #6

SHE gave the OK. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #11

She obviously lacked vision on that call. FarPoint Feb 2016 #19

Howard would have made the same call. Vermonter here cali Feb 2016 #24

hah! shanti Feb 2016 #206

Perhaps he did that so as to not split the vote and have everyone sream Nader 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #97

exactly! He actually did the Dems a favour dana_b Feb 2016 #195

People with your attitude are more concerned with electing Democrats just because they're Democrats Maedhros Feb 2016 #180

I'm sure you and the DNC powers complained when he caucused Dem. Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #215

Good jkbRN Feb 2016 #7

Debbie seems to think so. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #49

Nope. Nyan Feb 2016 #67

I keep hearing them bring this up. TDale313 Feb 2016 #8

Very good points. CentralMass Feb 2016 #14

Well many of us life long Democrats think that he is the only Democrat in the race. CentralMass Feb 2016 #9

And many of us think that would be Hillary stopbush Feb 2016 #37

Just curious what you think of this ... earthshine Feb 2016 #53

I don't watch videos like this. stopbush Feb 2016 #78

The video is an interview with Lee Fang of the Intercept earthshine Feb 2016 #98

Thanks for the article which I read. stopbush Feb 2016 #113

There are more than that. The count grows. Apparently, it's very difficult to find out who they are. earthshine Feb 2016 #126

I think who the super delegates are is set for 2016. stopbush Feb 2016 #135

This election could be very close. It might matter. Think Iowa. earthshine Feb 2016 #198

Actually, we know pretty much exactly who the super delegates are. stopbush Feb 2016 #200

Here's Thom Hartmann talking about it on his show. earthshine Feb 2016 #117

Thanks, but I'll pass on Thom Hartmann. stopbush Feb 2016 #131

Thom is a pundit who is mostly right most of the time. earthshine Feb 2016 #221

They don't want to hear it. frylock Feb 2016 #218

She has the throwback jersey to prove it. frylock Feb 2016 #217

Absofuckinlutely. kath Feb 2016 #43

Excellent point noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #123

+1 Matariki Feb 2016 #149

She should know, she's not a Democrat either-she's a DINO that campaigns for R's. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #12

I am grateful for that statement. earthside Feb 2016 #13

And yet BS knew that without that elite D establishment stopbush Feb 2016 #39

Shamefully, you are correct. But, now we have a chance to pull out of this. earthshine Feb 2016 #56

A fundamental misunderstanding of the Sanders effort. earthside Feb 2016 #92

Nam drove LBJ out of the race. stopbush Feb 2016 #118

It wasn't that simple. earthside Feb 2016 #148

For sure. But to aver that McCarty was THE thing that caused "them" stopbush Feb 2016 #150

Oh. earthside Feb 2016 #152

She needs her ass primaried... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #18

She has an outstanding primary opponent. And he's very impressive. madfloridian Feb 2016 #27

And many of us have him on our donation list. jwirr Feb 2016 #199

Tim Canova, a solid Progressive with a great background is challenging her cali Feb 2016 #28

I live in Florida. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is a Democrat In Name Only. djean111 Feb 2016 #20

Bernie is the true Democrat, whereas DWS/HRC are pirates of the party. Gregorian Feb 2016 #26

Agreed and what a long strange trip it's been. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #38

pirates of the party SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #70

Neutral? Oh, my. Zorra Feb 2016 #33

geek tragedy: DWS is an unhelpful Democrat nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #34

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Juliet in Romeo and Juliet. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #36

Everything they try backfires. DamnYankeeInHouston Feb 2016 #46

A little late for that. But no use crying over spilt milk. ucrdem Feb 2016 #48

Not a Registered Democrat Firestorm49 Feb 2016 #50

this is stupid Robbins Feb 2016 #55

I am really not concerned bigwillq Feb 2016 #58

Just thought of something - braying that Bernie is not a Democrat!!!!! is only going to HELP djean111 Feb 2016 #60

They would prefer an independent run? I am being insulted by those who bbgrunt Feb 2016 #61

Then apparently no Democrat is going to win the Democratic nomination. Who cares anyway? corkhead Feb 2016 #62

Debbie is a Democrat when being one does not offend her Republican friends: Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #63

And she's right. He's running for re-election in Vermont - AS AN INDEPENDENT BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #65

I am sure that will make enormous difference to voters. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #159

they seem determined to destroy the party tk2kewl Feb 2016 #68

Dear Debbie Doodles: That is precisely why I support him. / FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #71

Boom goes the dynamite ! peace13 Feb 2016 #72

I heard a rumor that Debbie been UglyGreed Feb 2016 #75

Bernie isn't a Dem DownriverDem Feb 2016 #76

Then why did she give the OK for him to run on the Democratic Party ticket? Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #109

Do you value a label over policy positions? [nt] Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #115

Who the hell cares. PEOPLE OVER PARTY pinebox Feb 2016 #120

He's more of a Democrat than that quisling DWS will ever be... n/t backscatter712 Feb 2016 #77

I'm not sure DWS is a democrat (small "d") Bad Thoughts Feb 2016 #79

"Democrat" = "Clintonite". I have had my fill of political dynasties. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #81

Filthy, corrupt Republican fixer. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #84

so is this the saturday talking point? restorefreedom Feb 2016 #85

I stopped calling myself a democrat after a lifetime loyalty when the hollysmom Feb 2016 #86

She is not a Dem. She is a Repub! And a control freak. oldandhappy Feb 2016 #93

Thanks to DWS, Schumer, Rahm et al -I am no longer a fredamae Feb 2016 #96

FDR Democrat Here - The Modern Era Be Damned - A Pox On Their Houses cantbeserious Feb 2016 #105

I am too-and forever will be fredamae Feb 2016 #112

Roger That - The DWS DNC DLC Third Way - House Of Corporate Cards - Be Strugglin And Crumblin cantbeserious Feb 2016 #116

DWS - Predictably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme Number 17 cantbeserious Feb 2016 #101

DWS is missing the point. CincyDem Feb 2016 #104

Desperate Debbie Denies Dutifully... AzDar Feb 2016 #106

So what? [nt] Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #111

Neither are you DWS because no Democrat would have destroyed the party like you did. jillan Feb 2016 #121

Democrats torn between party, GOP friends Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #122

DWS voted to gut SNAP & so did Clyburn pinebox Feb 2016 #125

She might want to shut up if she wants the young bernistas to vote for Hillary in November Doctor_J Feb 2016 #129

This woman is so biased it is unbeleivable. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #133

Isn't it true that Sanders isn't a Democrat? Cary Feb 2016 #134

Message testing. pa28 Feb 2016 #140

Because she and her fellow DLC Corporatists have hijacked the party Lorien Feb 2016 #147

At least he was NEVER a republican. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #151

So he doesn't have battered Democrat syndrome - good. Joining the party is an intervention. pat_k Feb 2016 #153

Hes not a democrat like he's not Colonel Sanders, we aren't under any illusions of who he is. dubyadiprecession Feb 2016 #154

He's certainly not a NEW Democrat. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #157

Says Debbie? marmar Feb 2016 #158

I agree with DWS and Dean Howard, he's not a Dem Sheepshank Feb 2016 #163

DWS is not a Democrat either Boomer Feb 2016 #170

Hillary was a Goldwater girl! zappaman Feb 2016 #174

Good lord - the panic. Does Debbie's DNC have any ability to have long range thinking or strategy? myrna minx Feb 2016 #176

By the time DWS is done, there will be no Democrats, or not enough to win anything. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #178

Fuck the DNC. We are taking the party back. morningfog Feb 2016 #179

DWS has been a disaster for the DNC DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #182

He's not! ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #183

neither am I. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #185

He's not the typical "battered Democrat." Joining the Party is an intervention. pat_k Feb 2016 #187

"Joining the Party is an intervention" Matariki Feb 2016 #193

Instead of usual lobbying, we should start planning "interventions"! pat_k Feb 2016 #212

DWS is kicking herself for wecoming Sanders to the race nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #189

The Party bosses are just pissed TransitJohn Feb 2016 #190

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is not a democrat" kristopher Feb 2016 #192

Debbie is not a Democrat. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #194

Tim Canova!! Tim Canova!! dana_b Feb 2016 #196

DWS is a R-lite. jwirr Feb 2016 #197

Zero Integrity Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #201

Why then did she let him into the race for the Democratic Party nomination? Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #203

DWS should be removed from DNC chair, she is awful at her job! LW1977 Feb 2016 #205

DWS should know, she's not a democrat either IMO! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #207

Your loss Debbie Bradical79 Feb 2016 #209

Does she think this will help retain the I's that support Sanders Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #216

This is a feature, not a bug. frylock Feb 2016 #219

IIRC, in Vermont you *can't* register as a Democrat thesquanderer Feb 2016 #223