2016 Postmortem

Robbins

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1. say hello to president trump

Reply to DemocraticSocialist8 (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:30 PM

Feb 2016

the establishment wins and progressives lose.

social safety net will be cut in 2017.get used to republican right wing control.and more war.this time with citizen's united and gerry mandering dems will never be able to win again.

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It's Going To Be Tough For Bernie Supporters Over the Next 3-4 Weeks [View all] DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 OP

say hello to president trump Robbins Feb 2016 #1

Or worse, Cruz. Oh well, we know who to blame. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #3

The Dems who do not show up to vote? LonePirate Feb 2016 #26

The dems that selected a candidate that no one will vote for. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #37

So you're tacitly supporting the Repub candidate if your Dem candidate loses the primary battle? LonePirate Feb 2016 #41

nope! You''re wrong. Some of us just won't hold our noses any longer dana_b Feb 2016 #84

You can vote Dem in November or let the Repub nominee win. There are no other choices. LonePirate Feb 2016 #100

yes there are dana_b Feb 2016 #104

Those other names are nothing but votes for the Repub nominee because you are lowering the D total. LonePirate Feb 2016 #106

Nope. Not sitting out just won't vote for her. Dems down ticket, yes. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #108

So you are supporting the Repubs for President then. Not voting Dem = voting for Repub. LonePirate Feb 2016 #110

Having trouble reading? I will support Dems just not her. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #111

I guess you are the one having problems reading given what you replied to. LonePirate Feb 2016 #113

Pray tell. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #114

Not voting for the Dem Pres candidate in the GE is the same as voting a Repub for Pres. LonePirate Feb 2016 #116

No, voting repub is one less in the dem total and one more in the repub total. Vattel Feb 2016 #119

Oh, please DarthDem Feb 2016 #4

What a ridiculous slander. Can't make up my mind if it is sexist or homophobic. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #42

Oh please. Sanders only looked good against the GOP candidates in H2H's because they have Persondem Feb 2016 #14

What an absurd defeatist nonsensical post. DCBob Feb 2016 #35

Well that will win her my vote! nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #39

Yet another post in the same vein. DCBob Feb 2016 #44

Certainly hope she isn't counting on supporters like you. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #50

I gave up trying to convince anyone on this site to vote for Hillary. DCBob Feb 2016 #58

Have a great life. The kids are the big losers. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #60

The best thing for "the kids" is to keep a solid Democrat in the WH. DCBob Feb 2016 #62

Hillary will never win. She had her time in the White House. She doesn't own it. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #64

If she is nominee, she will will. DCBob Feb 2016 #68

She may well will it but it will never happen. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #70

Well that's opinion.. DCBob Feb 2016 #75

Yep, a pretty darn valid one. Check with you in November. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #78

You seem to hope she loses. DCBob Feb 2016 #81

Hard to care either way to be honest. I don't see her as any better than Repukes. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #85

Wow.. yet another absurd ridiculous clueless post. DCBob Feb 2016 #91

Thanks. Coming from you that is a compliment. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #93

No, it is going to be tough for Hillary supporters in the GE. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #2

Us? Of course, I expected nothing less... JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #5

Sorry Jon, I can't go there. I'll vote down ticket but that is it. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #8

Sorry, I meant Us=Progressives. We will be blamed for a poor turnout. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #12

Maybe it will take a Cruz or Trump presidency before the country learns. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #21

Who really cares who they blame? artislife Feb 2016 #27

They treat us like we are in it for "free stuff". I'm willing to bet I'd personally be worse off JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #32

Same here. But the country in general would be much better off with Sanders. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #47

I am in it for the planet and income equality artislife Feb 2016 #48

Exactly. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #72

Hillary will have a hard time in the general, I suspect, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #10

Please, the country is not stupid enough to vote in Trump, Cruz or Rubiobot. brush Feb 2016 #17

I wouldn't count on that. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #19

Trump took down the Bush Dynasty Larkspur Feb 2016 #34

No kidding! Nedsdag Feb 2016 #90

I think that was his intention. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #109

I'm gonna bet a good quarter or more of Sanders support Codeine Feb 2016 #40

Sadly, I think you are right. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #51

Nice numbers. Got a source? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #52

Purely speculative. Codeine Feb 2016 #56

I'd guess she/he is right based on the many people I have talked to while campaigning. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #67

Interesting. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #97

I don't think Democrats will do that, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #65

True but Bernie pulled a lot of Independents. And there are plenty of Dems that won't vote for her. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #76

I suppose a lot depends on who the R nominee is. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #83

Possibly but the polls now have her losing to Cruz and he is a pretty savy debater. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #88

He is the worst of the bunch, IMO. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #95

Yep. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #96

Are people independents out of fear of being Democrats, disgust of Republicans, or the lack of a JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #86

I can't speak for anywhere else, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #94

"even though most of us will hold our noses and vote for her" Codeine Feb 2016 #20

Or go Green. artislife Feb 2016 #30

I will absolutely not. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #43

Me too. Will be the first time I have ever done that but I can't picture myself voting for her. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #54

I get to vote my conscience, too, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #69

If it actually looks close here... Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #80

I am leaving the presidential slot blank as well. Nedsdag Feb 2016 #99

On the bright side, Codeine NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #103

Who is blamed doesn't matter, who votes for her does. There is a very bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #28

I do not think Hillary is that much better than a R for pres. She supports H1b visas, outsourcing, peacebird Feb 2016 #29

This is true. artislife Feb 2016 #31

And that friggen war and possibly more wars. Nothing I can vote for. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #55

Perhaps it's not that they are believing anti-Progressive propaganda. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #6

Yeah, it's that probably Rose Siding Feb 2016 #105

I think Bernie supporters have always known this is a long shot. Vinca Feb 2016 #7

We do, but Bernie presented a great opportunity and some real hope. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #57

I don't think so. fun n serious Feb 2016 #66

I hope you're right. Vinca Feb 2016 #117

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Feb 2016 #9

She doesn't have this black voters vote. Nedsdag Feb 2016 #11

It's tough to beat the machine Red Knight Feb 2016 #13

Yep. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #23

Do what the edge of the Republican base did mythology Feb 2016 #24

I think it shows that the Democratic party does only belong to the establishment. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #25

And those that have picked up the flag with him if she wins the GE will not bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #33

The vast majority of the people lose Broward Feb 2016 #15

Bernie needed a state he never led in? SheenaR Feb 2016 #16

Bernie needed to show he could win a State that wasn't overwhelmingly White brooklynite Feb 2016 #74

And got 48% SheenaR Feb 2016 #77

If HilLIARy supporters think she will win in Nov Politicalboi Feb 2016 #18

If Repubs win the GE, it's because Dems didn't vote. Don't blame the candidate, blame the voters. LonePirate Feb 2016 #38

WINNER Cosmocat Feb 2016 #118

I believe Sanders' supporters will stay strong and vocal... MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #22

I pretty much gave up after Iowa TheFarseer Feb 2016 #36

the fix? Codeine Feb 2016 #46

You can't have 100% of the media for one candidate TheFarseer Feb 2016 #61

Big time. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #59

Agreed his chances are slim to none. JRLeft Feb 2016 #45

I appreciate your concern Fairgo Feb 2016 #49

Bernie has been part of the establishment since being elected to congress in 1990.. dubyadiprecession Feb 2016 #53

Good grief. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #71

It's difficult to beat the machine and the establishment. Deadshot Feb 2016 #63

We know. Its always been tough. Its been a fight every step of the way. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #73

It's been tough since the beginning but we fight the good fight. NowSam Feb 2016 #79

IMHO - A Vote For HRC In The Primary Is A Vote For Trump In The General Election cantbeserious Feb 2016 #82

exactly!! That's what some refuse to understand dana_b Feb 2016 #87

IMHO - The HRC Supporters Will Be Eating Much Crow Later This Year cantbeserious Feb 2016 #92

She has taken everything they've got redstateblues Feb 2016 #101

Predictably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme Number 137 cantbeserious Feb 2016 #102

Oh, we're cool. Picked up some delegates and gonna keep on keepin' on. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #89

Why this Primary is not over ... INdemo Feb 2016 #98

Not really. It'll only be 9 more days to Super Tuesday. George II Feb 2016 #107

Bullshit. Keep your doom and gloom. He's on a better pace than Obama was. Fearless Feb 2016 #112

Obviously if Bernie narrowly wins the nomination, he will be a ways behind jfern Feb 2016 #115