2016 Postmortem

Karma13612

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90. although I am supporting Bernie, I agree with you in principle. WTF indeed.

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can we agree: long lines causing people to leave without voting is a scandal? [View all] geek tragedy Feb 2016 OP

I certainly agree with that intrepidity Feb 2016 #1

Anyone Remember The 2000 Election? The Establishment/Clinton Folks Are No Different CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #34

This post TeddyR Feb 2016 #37

I understand it perfectly well. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #106

Caucuses are just a pain in general. TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #2

I made calls for the Bernie campaign on Friday. A lot of people could not caucus because JDPriestly Feb 2016 #125

Completely agree suffragette Feb 2016 #3

Absolutely! GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #4

Caucuses are a scandal. Agschmid Feb 2016 #5

That is one thing that you and I Aerows Feb 2016 #27

I knew there was something! Agschmid Feb 2016 #28

That and we both love Aerows Feb 2016 #38

Yes. They're designed to produce long lines which not everyone has time for. Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #99

Yup. Agschmid Feb 2016 #101

Typical EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #6

If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal. ~Emma Goldman (a real Socialist :) - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #17

Emma Goldman was on to something, wasn't she? Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #129

Democracy requires a rational, sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #126

absolutely agree. Merryland Feb 2016 #7

Absolutely. SheilaT Feb 2016 #8

Fuck caucases. joshcryer Feb 2016 #9

You'll be loving caucuses when Bernie wins the rest of them. w4rma Feb 2016 #138

No, we cannot. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #10

all votes should be equal. JI7 Feb 2016 #14

If this was an election, you would be correct. This is a CAUCUS. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #19

That is the stupidest bullshit I've ever read. morningfog Feb 2016 #21

Pretty much. cali Feb 2016 #24

I'm always surprised when it isn't. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #36

Stick around. It will get worse. nt PonyUp Feb 2016 #117

Yep. And that's saying a lot. JoeyT Feb 2016 #127

it should be a regular election. military students and others JI7 Feb 2016 #25

If you do not like the Nevada Caucus,... MohRokTah Feb 2016 #41

my criticism is of the caucus itself. not nevada JI7 Feb 2016 #43

No, your criticism is of Nevada MohRokTah Feb 2016 #45

not the choice of all there . And criticism of caucus still stands JI7 Feb 2016 #47

You only have a say in how YOUR state party operates, and only if you're active in the party. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #53

I'm allowed to criticize on a message board JI7 Feb 2016 #54

Hey, where is your caucus location? Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #46

But what about wildeyed Feb 2016 #65

Strange there is no reply to this post Lordquinton Feb 2016 #108

No, because some people have jobs they can't risk skipping, kids they have no one to take care tblue37 Feb 2016 #74

Then obviously their support was not deep enough. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #77

Nonsense. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #91

Sorry you hate the process. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #104

Reminding us why Hillary is accused of being out of touch. (nt) noamnety Feb 2016 #131

This lack of compassion sounds more RW felix_numinous Feb 2016 #140

A caucus is a type of election. An undemocratic type of election. Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #102

CAucusing requires committment. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #103

It appears Nevada has had the Primary process several times in it's history JimDandy Feb 2016 #109

There is a primary this year. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #112

Why do you hate democracy? morningfog Feb 2016 #20

Asinine, I shouldn't have to risk losing my job... joshcryer Feb 2016 #22

That's how caucuses work. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #35

Fuck that. Unreal. That was the stupidest thing I've read all day. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #39

That's how the system works MohRokTah Feb 2016 #42

I'm consistent on this. joshcryer Feb 2016 #40

You have no say in how Nevada chooses it's delegates to the Democratic National Convention MohRokTah Feb 2016 #44

So do you. Apparently. Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #48

he isn't claiming he has a say in it. your arguments sound like Donald trump bringing JI7 Feb 2016 #50

Colorado wanted to go back to primaries. joshcryer Feb 2016 #57

For some people taking time off work means being jobless the next day--and even crappy tblue37 Feb 2016 #88

IF your state has a caucus, work to change that. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #98

I live in WA. We have caucuses. strategery blunder Feb 2016 #137

Caucuses are discriminatory. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #56

EXACTLY! nt Ligyron Feb 2016 #128

Why do you hate democracy? Odin2005 Feb 2016 #59

I don't. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #62

Because it is owned by the 1%. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #63

Well, I hate Socialism MohRokTah Feb 2016 #64

I hate Capitalism because history has proved it's a failed economic system. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #66

Except there are people who have jobs that mean they can't stay mythology Feb 2016 #70

They should have arranged for time off if their support had been deep enough. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #72

Wow... fullautohotdog Feb 2016 #79

A Caucus measures depth of support. How much committment one has for their candidate. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #83

I suppose you'd be willing to share that sentiment rpannier Feb 2016 #118

That is how caucuses work. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #120

No point in carrying it out rpannier Feb 2016 #122

Again, wow... fullautohotdog Feb 2016 #121

When the precinct is in total chaos and you can't even get in to exercise your depth of support, Karma13612 Feb 2016 #87

If your supporters are often retired elderly folks who... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #124

If that is the case, each candidate should just pick one supporter to represent them. bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #136

no discussions being allowed at NV caucus sites - Hillary voters need to get back to work SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #11

although I am supporting Bernie, I agree with you in principle. WTF indeed. Karma13612 Feb 2016 #90

this is why a primary with early voting option is better JI7 Feb 2016 #12

Caucuses inherently are disenfranchising tammywammy Feb 2016 #13

right on farleftlib Feb 2016 #18

It is absolute chaos trying to take part in one. Aerows Feb 2016 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #73

Nevada went to a caucus to move up the primary calendar tammywammy Feb 2016 #84

The DNC should force every state to use primaries in 2020. NT Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #107

Totally. Especially in a caucus. jwirr Feb 2016 #15

The entire fucking set up is exclusionary. SamKnause Feb 2016 #16

+1 cui bono Feb 2016 #23

Is this happening today? cui bono Feb 2016 #26

Definitely. But this is America. Voting is for lip service only. The process is rigged wherever it valerief Feb 2016 #30

Caucuses cause problems Green Texan Feb 2016 #31

Blame the state parties and legislatures who refuse to pay for official primary elections & ballots LonePirate Feb 2016 #32

It's sad, but the real scandal is that these first-time voters stopbush Feb 2016 #33

No. They got front of line status Nevernose Feb 2016 #85

yes, why can't people figure this crap out Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #49

This whole caucus thing is insane. Kittycat Feb 2016 #51

Yes, it suppresses the vote/caucus me b zola Feb 2016 #52

Yes. It is complete bullshit. This is the third states where bullshit has ocuured. CentralMass Feb 2016 #55

Oh absolutely. That's not a partisan issue. It is simply a shame. musicblind Feb 2016 #58

I agree. wildeyed Feb 2016 #60

according to twitter restorefreedom Feb 2016 #61

I was hoping IA was the warning that we needed to have Karma13612 Feb 2016 #78

fox news right now, commentator is calling for the end of caucuses restorefreedom Feb 2016 #95

I think we all can agree on that (with the exception of a troll or two). n/t demmiblue Feb 2016 #67

National primary day... DAMANgoldberg Feb 2016 #68

I think this is an excellent idea. potone Feb 2016 #96

Bad idea. jeff47 Feb 2016 #119

it's basically turning democracy and turnout against itself MisterP Feb 2016 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #71

Who likes caucuses? But she winning by 4% which is a solid win, not a nail biter. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #75

It's a piss poor system. MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #76

Absolutely. I wish all states would scrap caucuses and go the primary route. Metric System Feb 2016 #80

I AM STILL IN THE FUCKING CAUCUS ROOM Nevernose Feb 2016 #81

You'd think all those millennials supposedly for Sanders would stick it out. Hoyt Feb 2016 #82

You object to the LINE... brooklynite Feb 2016 #86

It's a caucus--everyone is required to show up at the same time. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #92

No, registration opened an hour before-hand. brooklynite Feb 2016 #93

One whole hour nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #94

I agree, more time for caucuses and for elections. randome Feb 2016 #100

No, we can't agree. That has happened everywhere in every election. People in Harlem back.... George II Feb 2016 #89

But they should not have had to wait that long JI7 Feb 2016 #114

Outrageous. Time to push orgs and office holders to make election protection a priority... pat_k Feb 2016 #97

Caucuses are undemocratic and I am not surprised to see who is in favor of that here. nt RedCappedBandit Feb 2016 #105

It happened in Nebraska at the 08 caucus Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #110

wow, Hillary up by 300 points.. seriously folks, these caucuses are a riot! secondwind Feb 2016 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Feb 2016 #113

It just doesn't happen over here, (UK). Bad Dog Feb 2016 #115

Yep. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #116

It's still their choice treestar Feb 2016 #123

100% Agreement JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #130

It's written into law in NC Triana Feb 2016 #132

K/R UglyGreed Feb 2016 #133

One of them should sue and get this declared unconstitutional disenfranchisement. Liberty Belle Feb 2016 #134

I've started a NV caucus vote suppression in the Bernie group: Ken Burch Feb 2016 #135

DNC: undemocratic and exclusionary. K&R nt TBF Feb 2016 #139