2016 Postmortem

merrily

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94. You didn't answer my question.

Reply to JRLeft (Reply #85)

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If Hillary wins it is up to progressives to push Hillary to the left, we cannot become [View all] JRLeft Feb 2016 OP

If she wins there will be no pushing her. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #1

I believe she can be pushed but it will take an enormous amount of pressure. JRLeft Feb 2016 #3

I agree but... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #64

This is why I mentioned we have to go after congress too my brotha. JRLeft Feb 2016 #65

Remind me how we push a President to the left. Cause the left has been trying that since 1789. merrily Feb 2016 #80

Overwhelming force which it has not been. you have to push congress too. JRLeft Feb 2016 #85

You didn't answer my question. merrily Feb 2016 #94

If she wins the primary she'll skew even further right to get moderate Republicans. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #18

Agreed. DLC has made it clear we'll be ignored,... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #36

I believe she is unelectable so that's a moot point. Divernan Feb 2016 #46

The Hillarians have no idea. earthside Feb 2016 #52

I agree, but I believe Hillary will win, because Trump will JRLeft Feb 2016 #53

Lounge singer, Jennifer Flowers Divernan Feb 2016 #56

Dont even have to go to free republic to see these right wing smears workinclasszero Feb 2016 #60

Yeah! NYTimes, LATimes and Wikipedia are not right wing smears. Divernan Feb 2016 #63

If you do remember, you'll recall that all those "whatever-gate" turned out to be pure unadulterated politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #93

You just go on believing that ... earthside Feb 2016 #95

I agree dana_b Feb 2016 #70

She is pushed by her Goldman Handcuffs, we can't pay the price of admission for her interest peacebird Feb 2016 #77

For This Citizen - An HRC Win Means - Four More Years Of Hibernation - To Old For Her Crap cantbeserious Feb 2016 #2

Let's not forget what we have discovered in this election: There are more progressives than we knew. Gregorian Feb 2016 #4

It may require a younger version of Bernie. I'm thinking a progressive Latino voice with the JRLeft Feb 2016 #5

After watching her campaign slander progressive issues, Hillary isn't moving left if she wins. w4rma Feb 2016 #6

How the hell can we compete with all her corporate donors? jillan Feb 2016 #7

Flood the white house with emails, letters, phone calls, and massive JRLeft Feb 2016 #9

Yea, but yelling at a rock will also get you nothing. THAT is why we work so hard for Bernie. peacebird Feb 2016 #79

She's not going to respond at all. jeff47 Feb 2016 #8

You should respond to congressional members too. JRLeft Feb 2016 #11

Just liberal ones. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #39

You can primary them. JRLeft Feb 2016 #43

Scares me how no one wants to do the work that is necessary. If they aren't showing up to vote now bettyellen Feb 2016 #67

if Hillary is the nominee, I don't think that everyone will run off dana_b Feb 2016 #71

If Hillary wins... N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2016 #10

But Obama himself said that Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #66

I support Mr. Obama also.. N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2016 #73

We're supposed to do that to every president. He/she works for us. JRLeft Feb 2016 #75

Hell, if she gets the nomination and we try push her to the left Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #68

If she wins she won't pay any attention to us at all. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #12

I'd rather spend my time more productively, Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #13

You apply pressure to Congress, not just Hillary. JRLeft Feb 2016 #16

Hillary is a corporatist who doesn't give a flying fuck Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #19

Don't forget to apply that same pressure to congress. JRLeft Feb 2016 #22

The vast majority of the incumbants are WAY too compromised. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #24

If he/she won't comply primary him/her. JRLeft Feb 2016 #29

I gave up on trying to push Third Wayers left a long time ago. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #14

She'll say anything. She just wants me for my vote. corkhead Feb 2016 #15

Evidence-based opinions are generally better ones. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #17

We support Bernie at the moment, if he loses we have to focus all of intense pressure on her. JRLeft Feb 2016 #20

It won't do any good. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #25

If she's the nominee, she'll drift to the right to pick up Republicans. Vinca Feb 2016 #21

Remember it's not just her it's congress too. JRLeft Feb 2016 #23

Turnout in 2014 was the lowest since World War 2. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #26

That's our fault, we should have shown up. Apathy has been a major issue with progressives. JRLeft Feb 2016 #30

My main reasons to vote are my wife and daughters. Before that LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #57

People better give a fuck, no change is easy. In fact it's hard as hell. JRLeft Feb 2016 #59

Not gonna happen, ever. She has already sold her soul to Wall Street pinebox Feb 2016 #27

Like that worked with Obama. Hillary was paid many millions for her services Lorien Feb 2016 #28

There wasn't nearly enough pressure applied on Obama or congress. JRLeft Feb 2016 #32

I agree but can't count on dragging Clinton to the Left. She will never make her good rhett o rick Feb 2016 #31

If she won't budge push congress, and threaten a primary challenge. JRLeft Feb 2016 #33

I think should the Oligarchy push HRC into the Presidency, we must immediately start rhett o rick Feb 2016 #45

She doesn't think very highly of me. I don't think very highly of her. She'll never be the President DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #34

Strategy my friend. JRLeft Feb 2016 #35

a +1 for your positive attitude. I'm not feeling it this morning, but I appreciate your post. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #40

No problem, I get your frustration, but it won't be long before we all have to back someone. JRLeft Feb 2016 #42

K&R nt NCTraveler Feb 2016 #37

Thanks you get it. JRLeft Feb 2016 #38

Sorry, but that's a fantasy whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #41

If she won't listen you can always primary congress members who choose to ignore us. JRLeft Feb 2016 #44

Or... how about we just not elect another center-right, status quo, president? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #49

I agree with you, and the if he loses the fight cannot come to a halt without him. JRLeft Feb 2016 #50

If she wins, things will remain the same Armstead Feb 2016 #47

He she's staunch then you elect a congress that represents our best interest. JRLeft Feb 2016 #48

Congress is part of the problem but there are all lot of good Dems already Armstead Feb 2016 #51

There is no pushing her to the left if she is in the Whitehouse. Skwmom Feb 2016 #54

If not push congress. JRLeft Feb 2016 #55

That Congress will be CONTROLLED by the Clinton Network. Skwmom Feb 2016 #62

If she wins it, they can have the party. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #58

Read into American Oligarchy nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #61

The Clinton machine is entirely corrupt and entrenched. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #69

Well said. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #72

You're not going to overcome this Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #74

The only hope is who's selected/elected in Congress. valerief Feb 2016 #76

Not just Hillary Bradical79 Feb 2016 #78

Agreed JRLeft Feb 2016 #82

If she wins the nomination, she'll immediately move (return) to the right. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #81

Now you are getting it! wildeyed Feb 2016 #83

Anything less shows how little the 'revolutionaries' really care. randome Feb 2016 #84

No it is NOT up to progressives to push Hillary to the left. It is up to progressive to deny her totodeinhere Feb 2016 #86

This post was based on if she won, which she is still heavily favored to do. JRLeft Feb 2016 #87

Then the left is screwed jfern Feb 2016 #90

If she is the nominee a republican will win the White House. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #88

You don't push Hillary left jfern Feb 2016 #89

Any movement to the left on her part will be complete bullshit. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #91

Ridiculous. She is corrupt and a neocon cali Feb 2016 #92