AA and Latinos poll higher than whites in approval of socialism and disapproval of capitalism (Reply #114)

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114. AA and Latinos poll higher than whites in approval of socialism and disapproval of capitalism

http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/?src=prc-headline

I think it has more to do with Sanders than socialism.

Sanders' has stated that his approach is to bring back the New Deal coalition (white working class.) That coalition broke up with itself over civil rights though, I think this election will be the final break up with the left's old love affair with bringing that back as a path to victory.

Any socialist looking for gains is going to have to reach deeply into the population that approves of it more highly and find out together what we can build in the future.

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195 replies	Author	Time	Post
I wonder if the Black vote was what sealed the deal [View all]	bravenak	Feb 2016	OP
It will be interesting to see the breakdown	mcar	Feb 2016	#1
Yep	bravenak	Feb 2016	#8
Enjoy your imperfect relationship!	TCJ70	Feb 2016	#2
That is one truly fucked-up thing to say.	Codeine	Feb 2016	#3
Just reinforces why AAs don't care for Sanders...	woolldog	Feb 2016	#6
Don't say that, because a lot of us do.	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#16
and	heaven05	Feb 2016	#153
And a lot of us won't show up in the GE for her. (I will it be my last gift to democratic party)	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#155
don't	heaven05	Feb 2016	#162
I said I will vote for her. That went over your head for some reason.	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#164
yep	heaven05	Feb 2016	#165
You too, don't take my dislike of Hillary as a swipe at you it's not.	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#167
I'm not	heaven05	Feb 2016	#170
Both parties are corrupt to the core that is people are leaving both parties in droves.	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#171
true	heaven05	Feb 2016	#172
We may have to start another party, the democratic party not be	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#173
THIS Black cares for Sanders. What do you say about me?	johnlucas	Feb 2016	#41
Sanders is a fraud.	woolldog	Feb 2016	#46
So, the fraud is someone who even with debts refuses to take "gifts" (BRIBES!) to speak for them?...	cascadiance	Feb 2016	#70
He's an irresponsible spendthrift in his personal life	woolldog	Feb 2016	#72
He never got $156,000,000 in speaking fees from corrupt, nation-wrecking institutions.	DisgustipatedinCA	Feb 2016	#90
Well, if he had just ONE Goldman Sachs speech fee payment he'd then be rich...	cascadiance	Feb 2016	#91
I trust him more than I trust someone that says she'll never lie to the American	nc4bo	Feb 2016	#71
Do your research brother. You're wrong.	johnlucas	Feb 2016	#79
Congratulations	whatchamacallit	Feb 2016	#87
woolldog, 2 O's, 2 L's. Got it.	DisgustipatedinCA	Feb 2016	#89
and?	woolldog	Feb 2016	#93
What a stupid post. Was that some kind of threat	Number23	Feb 2016	#138
I'm he's implying that the homie is taking 2 l's aka loses.	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#157
His Net Worth is Reported to be 500K+	cureautismnow	Feb 2016	#97
What's with the Soviet Hillary icon? nt	TheBlackAdder	Feb 2016	#194
I think it look cool. nt	woolldog	Feb 2016	#195
I like Sanders. I can't stand his arrogant, rude, and often racist supporters. They're no better	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#146
that is counterproductive	heaven05	Feb 2016	#156
Whatever you think. I do what I want when I want. I don't need to be lectured to. My primary	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#159
NO	heaven05	Feb 2016	#163
Hillary supporters have the same issues, she had plenty of racists on her side.	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#158
And you know I've spoken on that repeatedly, ad nauseum. Frankly I'm tired of talking about HRC	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#160
Hillary will be the nominee that's a given. I will support her in the GE, and then	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#161
I was a Green for many years. I'm one of those	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#176
Results...	Major Nikon	Feb 2016	#175
Thanks. With all due respect, we've been discussing	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#177
It's a big party with a big tent. You're gonna see some fools in it. Look at the big picture	johnlucas	Feb 2016	#179
I appreciate this in fairness. Thank you.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#180
No problem, my brother. It's all about respect.	johnlucas	Feb 2016	#181
I'm very much a girl. :)	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#189
I apologize, my sister. I made a hasty assumption based on your profile pic	johnlucas	Feb 2016	#190
No worries! Ironically, Trayvon Martin's parents are supporting HRC. However, I've had this avatar	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#191
They just don't know her background well enough. They're simply committed to getting a Dem Prez	johnlucas	Feb 2016	#192
I actually agree with you in general. They may or may not know everything about the two candidates.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#193
Anecdotal!?	uponit7771	Feb 2016	#184
Nah. I wouldn't say that. There's a lot like me out here.	johnlucas	Feb 2016	#185
Some do and some don't.	wildeyed	Feb 2016	#47
I am an AA who leaned towards Bernie.	Nedsdag	Feb 2016	#104
Why?	TCJ70	Feb 2016	#9
Black unemployment back to where it was ubder Bill? I'LL TAKE IT!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#4
You like 42%? They don't count the incarcerated.	cureautismnow	Feb 2016	#107
Oh please with the propaganda	bravenak	Feb 2016	#112
Is it Propaganda when it comes from her own mouth?	cureautismnow	Feb 2016	#117
You think i dont know this?	bravenak	Feb 2016	#119
Not exactly	radical noodle	Feb 2016	#113
Bill apologized later for the effect of this law	cureautismnow	Feb 2016	#127
worthless apology	heaven05	Feb 2016	#168
There's no reason for you to deride bravenak's OP.	MerryBlooms	Feb 2016	#19
The results are in:	Lizzie Poppet	Feb 2016	#23
Woah...	TCJ70	Feb 2016	#28
And survived! Woot!	Lizzie Poppet	Feb 2016	#37
What is it	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2016	#120
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2016	#56
Every vote counts.	FarPoint	Feb 2016	#5
Me too. I'm proud of them	bravenak	Feb 2016	#10
I think if not sealed, but certainly had to play a major role.	MerryBlooms	Feb 2016	#7
Me too I was surprised at the turnout	bravenak	Feb 2016	#12
Yes, indeedy!	MerryBlooms	Feb 2016	#24
In my precinct, along with two others:	brush	Feb 2016	#11
Oh boy!!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#15
It certainly was a big help	KingFlorez	Feb 2016	#13
Yeap!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#21
According to MSNBC's Steve Kornacki the Latino vote was supposed to	oasis	Feb 2016	#14
I was shocked at the projected latino numbers	bravenak	Feb 2016	#17
Hill said in the recent town hall she wanted an early nomination so	oasis	Feb 2016	#31
Oh good I am THRILLED!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#33
"get started on her proposals"? I thought she already had them.	Ken Burch	Feb 2016	#130
Implementation.	oasis	Feb 2016	#132
She can implement things without BEING president?	Ken Burch	Feb 2016	#134
She and Bill can line up her potential cabinet etc.	oasis	Feb 2016	#135
She couldn't have done that in the first place?	Ken Burch	Feb 2016	#137
Hill had no hard plans on running in 2016. She likely	oasis	Feb 2016	#144
He should give Bernie supporters some time, a lot of them hate her.	JRLeft	Feb 2016	#20
From now until November with Ted Cruz and the SCOTUS as	oasis	Feb 2016	#39
Wait... I thought that the Latino vote went in Sanders' favor??	Number23	Feb 2016	#128
DU polls are unreliable. Especially the polls made up of DU membership.	oasis	Feb 2016	#129
No, I mean that stories have been posted over and over that say that Sanders won the	Number23	Feb 2016	#131
It may have had something to do with Harry Reid getting on	oasis	Feb 2016	#133
I think the Black vote will win her a lot	ismnotwasm	Feb 2016	#18
I see AA precincts went heavily hillary	bravenak	Feb 2016	#27
And I am in no way surprised by this.	ismnotwasm	Feb 2016	#36
Me too. I'm right there with you	bravenak	Feb 2016	#40
MSNBC states Bernies support strength was rural white. nt	LexVegas	Feb 2016	#22
Not really surprising	bravenak	Feb 2016	#25
Please explain to me why Clinton is better than Sanders	malletgirl02	Feb 2016	#26
I cannot explain	bravenak	Feb 2016	#29
If you want me to vote Clinton you need to explain.	malletgirl02	Feb 2016	#32
I do not care who you vote for tho	bravenak	Feb 2016	#38
No you just would rather vote for someone who's been saying "No We Can't" when asked to do change!	cascadiance	Feb 2016	#78
I dont read lectures	bravenak	Feb 2016	#80
No one's asking you to.	cascadiance	Feb 2016	#82
His lack of skills at community organizing and building a diverse coalition	bravenak	Feb 2016	#85
Well if many like you are just trying to spread hate towards him then that doesn't help does it!	cascadiance	Feb 2016	#95
There have been plenty of discussions in DU	radical noodle	Feb 2016	#110
I am just giving the gifts that are given to me	bravenak	Feb 2016	#111
Vote. Its been and still is a struggle to vote, more so for POC.	Iliyah	Feb 2016	#63
they have better connections in the black community	JI7	Feb 2016	#35
Policies	malletgirl02	Feb 2016	#42
policies are about the same. especially when you consider what they can do	JI7	Feb 2016	#48
I'll tell you.....	FrenchieCat	Feb 2016	#62
the Clintons know they need the black community more than	JI7	Feb 2016	#30
The need to keep that thought at the front of their minds	bravenak	Feb 2016	#45
yeah. although that had more to do with love for Obama	JI7	Feb 2016	#60
I think she is way better than bill	bravenak	Feb 2016	#64
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2016	#34
Yep...so fast it'll make your head spin.	Lizzie Poppet	Feb 2016	#43
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2016	#49
Agreed.	Lizzie Poppet	Feb 2016	#61
Neither will he,lol	bravenak	Feb 2016	#44
Second time someone inferred we won't get what we expect	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2016	#124
Exactly	bravenak	Feb 2016	#125
No citation but tweets I read...	Rose Siding	Feb 2016	#50
Whooooooo!!!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#51
This is WAY better isn't it??!!!!	Rose Siding	Feb 2016	#53
YES	bravenak	Feb 2016	#58
I can't quite...	Rose Siding	Feb 2016	#74
I am trying so hard to leave but I keep giggling and looking at more posts and...	bravenak	Feb 2016	#75
ok but this!	Rose Siding	Feb 2016	#83
DAMN!!!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#84
OMG	rbrnmw	Feb 2016	#98
Pulled this off the tweeter earlier today.	wildeyed	Feb 2016	#52
This is nice	bravenak	Feb 2016	#54
Better than Iowa!	wildeyed	Feb 2016	#59
Oh god, me too	bravenak	Feb 2016	#65
Updated: Clinton had MASSIVE lead among black voters.	wildeyed	Feb 2016	#69
OMG!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#73
I think Hispanics and black votes. See what happens in more diverse states?	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#55
Yep	bravenak	Feb 2016	#57
The Koch brothers are smiling at your comments and feel like they've won their drive to olgarchy!	cascadiance	Feb 2016	#96
Ditto	Iliyah	Feb 2016	#66
+1	treestar	Feb 2016	#86
According to Kornacki, blacks to Clinton, Hispanics to Sanders.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Feb 2016	#101
Entrance Poll	noretreatnosurrender	Feb 2016	#103
The exit polls may have been wrong. It appears that Clinton won the Hispanic vote there as well	Number23	Feb 2016	#140
That's a pretty stark discrepancy with the entrance polls.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Feb 2016	#143
He didn't win Hispanics last night. He started off doing very well earlier on in the day.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#145
Yeah, I've seen some very disparate claims since then.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Feb 2016	#147
I don't think we'll know because it's difficult to analyze Latino turnout and actual levels of	Liberal_Stalwart71	Feb 2016	#148
She certainly should have. I was quite dubious about the polls saying he'd tied her going into NV	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Feb 2016	#149
If so, then congratulations on your vote to promote a LOWER raise in the minimum wage!	cascadiance	Feb 2016	#67
She via her surrogates lied about that too. There were campaign pamphlets in NV promoting	nc4bo	Feb 2016	#76
We tied our to the inflation rate ip here so get on your states to do the same	bravenak	Feb 2016	#77
According to 538 it is	vdogg	Feb 2016	#68
Its getting real!!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#81
I'm good with that!	FrenchieCat	Feb 2016	#88
I'm gonna ask a blunt question here.	DemocraticWing	Feb 2016	#92
I think your error may be in assuming AA voters are voting against Sanders.	Codeine	Feb 2016	#102
Well I asked a question about socialism.	DemocraticWing	Feb 2016	#105
I think it could be quite different.	Codeine	Feb 2016	#109
What?! Hillary Clinton's skin is white... she has the same "limitations" he does...	uponit7771	Feb 2016	#186
AA and Latinos poll higher than whites in approval of socialism and disapproval of capitalism	Starry Messenger	Feb 2016	#114
You make a good point	forjusticethunders	Feb 2016	#150
no. there is racism against blacks in Cuba	JI7	Feb 2016	#115
This message was self-deleted by its author	Chitown Kev	Feb 2016	#94
It looks like, yes. According to entrance polls	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Feb 2016	#99
I figured it would happen like this	bravenak	Feb 2016	#121
76-22	firebrand80	Feb 2016	#100
I guess that talk of firewall is real	bravenak	Feb 2016	#126
Harry Reid sealed the deal	Armstead	Feb 2016	#106
.	bravenak	Feb 2016	#122
Nevada? Maybe. But...	zappaman	Feb 2016	#108
Sweden's system wont work here	bravenak	Feb 2016	#116
Sealed the deal	whatchamacallit	Feb 2016	#118
.	bravenak	Feb 2016	#123
Bravenak, by every account, blacks and Hispanics delivered Nevada to Clinton	Number23	Feb 2016	#136
I KNEW something was off!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#139
"I used to think it was issues that drove Bernie; now I think it is his rage."	Number23	Feb 2016	#141
Perfect quote. Thats how I see him too.	bravenak	Feb 2016	#142
Once I started reading his press releases	wildeyed	Feb 2016	#151
Thank you!!!	bravenak	Feb 2016	#152
Same here.	Starry Messenger	Feb 2016	#169
20% !? really nice	uponit7771	Feb 2016	#187
According to the census data, Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 (a) 9.1%	Agnosticsherbet	Feb 2016	#154
Based on the entrance poll, 19% of voters were Latino, 13% African American, BUT	onenote	Feb 2016	#166
Yes.	wildeyed	Feb 2016	#174
This message was self-deleted by its author	Marr	Feb 2016	#178
Girl... YOU ... ARE.... BAD...heh heh... sigh... I'mma sit back and just read the post come SC	uponit7771	Feb 2016	#182
I need to keep a low pro until then after today	bravenak	Feb 2016	#183
+1	uponit7771	Feb 2016	#188

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