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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: THIS is who they want to put in the Whitehouse? Really?!? [View all]NYC Liberal
(20,444 posts)61. She absolutely is a progressive.
Its true that Clinton sat on the Wal-Mart board for six years while her husband was governor of Arkansas, where the chain has its corporate headquarters. She was paid about $18,000 a year for doing it. At the time, she worked at the Rose Law Firm, which had represented Wal-Mart in various matters.
But according to accounts from other board members, Clinton was a thorn in the side of the companys founder, Sam Walton, on the matter of promoting women, few of whom were in the ranks of managers or executives at the time. She also strongly advocated for more environmentally sound corporate practices. She made limited progress in both areas. In 2005 she returned a $5,000 contribution from Wal-Mart, citing serious differences with its current practices.
But according to accounts from other board members, Clinton was a thorn in the side of the companys founder, Sam Walton, on the matter of promoting women, few of whom were in the ranks of managers or executives at the time. She also strongly advocated for more environmentally sound corporate practices. She made limited progress in both areas. In 2005 she returned a $5,000 contribution from Wal-Mart, citing serious differences with its current practices.
Reich was even more gladdened by Hillary's passionate condemnation of corporate-executive compensationone of the Labor Secretary's favorite populist topics. "These are real issues, Bill," she said, pointing out that the average CEO of a big company "is now earning 200 times the average hourly wage. Twenty years ago the ratio was about forty times ... People all over this country are really upset about this." When Bill demurred, saying he couldn't be "out front" on such issues, Hillary said sharply, "Well, somebody in the administration ought to be making these arguments," turning to Reich. "I agree," replied Bill with a nod.
Lets finally do something about the growing economic inequality that is tearing our country apart. The top 1% of our households hold 22% of our nations wealth. That is the highest concentration of wealth in a very small number of people since 1929. So lets close that gap. Lets start holding corporate America responsible, make them pay their fair share again. Enough with the corporate welfare. Enough with the golden parachutes. And enough with the tax incentives for companies to shift jobs overseas.
We need diversion, like drug courts. Non-violent offenders should not be serving hard time in our prisons. They need to be diverted from our prison system. We need to make sure that we do deal with the distinction between crack and powder cocaine. And ultimately we need an attorney general and a system of justice that truly does treat people equally, and that has not happened under this administration.
I have spoken out on my belief that we should have drug courts that would serve as alternatives to the traditional criminal justice system for low-level offenders. If the person comes before the court, agrees to stay clean, is subjected to drug tests once a week, they are diverted from the criminal justice system. We need more treatment. It is unfair to urge people to get rid of their addiction and not have the treatment facilities when people finally makes up their minds to get treatment.
- Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jun 2007)
- Voted YES on making oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal. (Jun 2007)
- Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)
- Voted YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR. (Nov 2005)
- Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)
- Voted YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Jun 2005)
- Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)
- Voted NO on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
- Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)
- Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003)
- Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. (Apr 2002)
- Voted NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months. (Mar 2002)
- Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases. (Aug 2000)
- Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy. (Mar 2004)
- Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances. (Feb 2005)
- Require public notification when nuclear releases occur. (Mar 2006)
- Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)
- Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness. (Nov 2007)
- Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025. (Jan 2007)
- Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards. (Jan 2008)
- Gas tax holiday for the summer. (Apr 2008)
I think we need to give people about $650, if they qualify--which will be millions of people--to help pay their energy bills this winter. There are so many people on fixed incomes and working people who are not going to be able to afford the spike in energy costs. And then we will have money for rebates, but lets make them the right rebates. A lot of our seniors on fixed incomes dont pay income taxes. But that doesnt mean theyre immune from the energy costs.
- Count Every Vote Act: end voting discrimination by race. (Jun 2007)
- Voted YES on granting the District of Columbia a seat in Congress. (Sep 2007)
- Voted NO on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections. (Jul 2007)
- Voted NO on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress. (Mar 2006)
- Voted NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity. (Mar 2006)
- Voted YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads. (Mar 2002)
- Voted NO on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002)
- Voted YES on banning campaign donations from unions & corporations. (Apr 2001)
- Voluntary public financing for all general elections. (Aug 2000)
- Criminalize false or deceptive info about elections. (Nov 2005)
- Reject photo ID requirements for voting. (Sep 2005)
- Post earmarks on the Internet before voting on them. (Jan 2006)
- Establish the United States Public Service Academy. (Mar 2007)
- Prohibit voter intimidation in federal elections. (Mar 2007)
- Prohibit 'voter caging' which intimidates minority voting. (Nov 2007)
Clintons foes say she doesnt deserve credit for expanding federal health insurance, a claim Clinton has made literally thousands of times. She got health insurance for six million kids, according to one ad.
We review the record and conclude that she deserves plenty of credit, both for the passage of the State Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) legislation and for pushing outreach efforts to translate the law into reality.
We review the record and conclude that she deserves plenty of credit, both for the passage of the State Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) legislation and for pushing outreach efforts to translate the law into reality.
If you dont start out trying to get universal health care, we know--and our members of Congress know--youll never get there. If a Democrat doesnt stand for universal health care that includes every single American, you can see the consequences of what that will mean. It is imperative that we have plans, as both John and I do, that from the very beginning say, You know what? Everybody has got to be covered. Theres only three ways of doing it. You can have a single-payer system, you can require employers, or you can have individual responsibility. My plan combines employers and individual responsibility, while maintaining Medicare and Medicaid. The whole idea of universal health care is such a core Democratic principle that I am willing to go to the mat for it. Ive been there before. I will be there again. I am not giving in; I am not giving up; and Im not going to start out leaving 15 million Americans out of health care.
She bitterly condemned the greed of health insurers, who she said were pushing the United States to the brink of bankruptcy.
- Voted YES on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare. (Jul 2008)
- Voted NO on means-testing to determine Medicare Part D premium. (Mar 2008)
- Voted YES on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D. (Apr 2007)
- Voted NO on limiting medical liability lawsuits to $250,000. (May 2006)
- Voted YES on expanding enrollment period for Medicare Part D. (Feb 2006)
- Voted YES on increasing Medicaid rebate for producing generics. (Nov 2005)
- Voted YES on negotiating bulk purchases for Medicare prescription drug. (Mar 2005)
- Voted NO on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Jun 2003)
- Voted YES on allowing reimportation of Rx drugs from Canada. (Jul 2002)
- Voted YES on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001)
- Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001)
- Voted NO on cutting $221M in benefits to Filipinos who served in WWII US Army. (Apr 2008)
- Voted NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad. (Aug 2007)
- Voted YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months. (Jul 2007)
- Voted YES on implementing the 9/11 Commission report. (Mar 2007)
- Voted YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. (Sep 2006)
- Voted YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods. (Sep 2006)
- Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act. (Mar 2006)
- Voted NO on extending the PATRIOT Act's wiretap provision. (Dec 2005)
- Voted YES on restricting business with entities linked to terrorism. (Jul 2005)
- Voted YES on restoring $565M for states' and ports' first responders. (Mar 2005)
- Federalize aviation security. (Nov 2001)
- Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record. (Dec 2003)
Following two and a half years of study, members of Bills Advisory Co until on Social Security offered proposals for investing a portion of Social Security retirement funds in the stock market. Hillary reacted emphatically to the report, telling her husband, We mustnt let Social Security be privatized.
Social Security is one of the greatest inventions in American democracy, and I will do everything possible to protect & defend it, starting with getting back to fiscal responsibility, instead of borrowing from the Social Security trust fund. We need to provide some additional opportunities for people to invest, on top of their base guarantee of Social Security, more of a chance to build their nest egg. The risky scheme to privatize would cost between $1 and $2 trillion. That would undermine the promise of Social Security.
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record
At a time when her contemporaries were challenging the authority of college administrators, she steered the antiwar movement at Wellesley away from the kind of confrontation that convulsed other campuses.
Still, Hillary and her class were responsible for greater changes at Wellesley than any in its history. Black Studies was added to the curriculum. A summer Upward Bound program for inner-city children was initiated, antiwar activities were conducted in college facilities, the skirt rule had been rescinded, grades were given on a pass-fail basis, and interdisciplinary majors were permitted. One of Hillarys strengths as a leader, still evident, was her willingness to participate in the drudgery of government rather than simply direct policy.
Still, Hillary and her class were responsible for greater changes at Wellesley than any in its history. Black Studies was added to the curriculum. A summer Upward Bound program for inner-city children was initiated, antiwar activities were conducted in college facilities, the skirt rule had been rescinded, grades were given on a pass-fail basis, and interdisciplinary majors were permitted. One of Hillarys strengths as a leader, still evident, was her willingness to participate in the drudgery of government rather than simply direct policy.
Im relieved that the intelligence community has reached this conclusion, but I vehemently disagree with the president that nothings changed and therefore nothing in American policy has to change. I have for two years advocated diplomatic engagement with Iran, and I think thats what the president should do.
VoteMatch Responses
Strongly Favors topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's right
(+5 points on Social scale)
Strongly Favors topic 2:
Require hiring more women & minorities
(-5 points on Economic scale)
Strongly Favors topic 3:
Same-sex domestic partnership benefits
(+5 points on Social scale)
Opposes topic 4:
Teacher-led prayer in public schools
(+2 points on Social scale)
Opposes topic 9:
Mandatory Three Strikes sentencing laws
(+2 points on Social scale)
Strongly Opposes topic 10:
Absolute right to gun ownership
(-5 points on Economic scale)
Favors topic 5:
More federal funding for health coverage
(-3 points on Economic scale)
Strongly Opposes topic 6:
Privatize Social Security
(-5 points on Economic scale)
Strongly Opposes topic 7:
Parents choose schools via vouchers
(-5 points on Economic scale)
Strongly Favors topic 18:
Replace coal & oil with alternatives
(-5 points on Economic scale)
Opposes topic 19:
Drug use is immoral: enforce laws against it
(+2 points on Social scale)
Strongly Favors topic 11:
Make taxes more progressive
(-5 points on Economic scale)
Favors topic 12:
Illegal immigrants earn citizenship
(+2 points on Social scale)
Strongly Favors topic 16:
Stricter limits on political campaign funds
(-5 points on Economic scale)
Strongly Favors topic 14:
The Patriot Act harms civil liberties
(+5 points on Social scale)

Sources: http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/hillary_clinton.htm
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I agree. There's no there there that I would support, not on the substantial issues of the day.
highprincipleswork
Feb 2016
#1
You think that list is false? Not only is it true but it is just a partial list. nt
Live and Learn
Feb 2016
#159
Hartmann's list is repeated below. You say it is false. Please go over each, item by item, and
Cal33
Feb 2016
#187
And that's as substantive as a Clinton support ever gets when discussing issues.
rhett o rick
Feb 2016
#243
Yea, I guess you are right, i wouldn't feel good about giving secret speeches either
nolabels
Feb 2016
#80
Because its all about perception. Nevermind the actual history, hidden behind the curtain...
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#111
I can conceive of people having a differant point of view. I cannot understand people
mikehiggins
Feb 2016
#259
You, and the Hillary supporters of which you appear to be, are proving the point.
concreteblue
Feb 2016
#278
So, why are you voting for Hillary? Oh, and ALL OTHERS are not evildoers. Good lord almighty.
libdem4life
Feb 2016
#293
"You can't sway religious fanatics, flat earthers, or Hillary supporters. Facts are anathema to all.
hifiguy
Feb 2016
#193
Sympathetic to HRC? Are you serious? Why would I be more sympathetic to the establishment candidate?
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#71
In high school? She was a junior in college when she decided to support McGovern.
Petrushka
Feb 2016
#245
Over 40 years a registered Democrat, never missed an election always voted a straight
Autumn
Feb 2016
#69
Bernie isn't destroying the party, neither are his supporters. The law allows anyone to run for
Autumn
Feb 2016
#180
No, that's a fact. Anyone is entitled to run for President in any party if they meet the
Autumn
Feb 2016
#195
Well you did find my name and a few of my posts but I fail to see what those have to do with this.
Autumn
Feb 2016
#208
If the Democratic Party can't put up decent opposition to the Republican Party, it needs an overhaul
johnlucas
Feb 2016
#291
As I have said many times, I am a life-long Democrat. I wore an Adlai Stevenson pin to school
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#135
If I wanted any of those things I would be looking towards the Republican party.
Cassiopeia
Feb 2016
#8
Right You Are - Once Again - BDS Rules - And Democrats Are Forced To Vote - Republican Lite
cantbeserious
Feb 2016
#18
Your bright red quote from John Lennon (who would have been a Bernie supported)
panader0
Feb 2016
#88
Sid never will. Well over half of the posts I see from him are laughing emoticons.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#116
This Citizen Is Appalled At What Passes For Politics In A Modern Democracy
cantbeserious
Feb 2016
#15
Congratulations! You've successfully avoided countering the aforementioned issues!
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#93
And yet you've STILL managed to successfully avoid countering the aforementioned issues!
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#107
More like, spew a bunch of information that fails to serve as a counter to the argument.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#118
People with this mindset have been running things for far too long in the Dem Party.
Broward
Feb 2016
#47
I reject your notion that nominating Bernie would lead to a republican president...
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#167
It's just a glimpse into the 'inside Washington' country club. These folks don't give a
YOHABLO
Feb 2016
#263
BAH! THat's nothing that a laughing emoticon defense/rebuttal can't overcome.
stupidicus
Feb 2016
#20
Why is that? If everyone gets covered, it is Universal Healthcare, bro. She'll get there faster
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#77
Let's see, if we get a public option, increased subsidies, expanded Medicaid in every state, etc.,
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#86
I agree with Reid. When at least 42% of the country is opposed to single payer, why try
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#113
Bernie was attacked for "turning healthcare over to the Republican states",
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#105
I did not say every state. Some red states will still resist, although increased government incen-
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#117
I think she is, but the primary is not the place to fight that issue. Save it for the GOPers.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#186
i have read her white sheet on healthcare,nothing about a public option
questionseverything
Feb 2016
#189
"I like here approach and pragmatism, not just wild promises pandering to gullible people."
dana_b
Feb 2016
#120
Problem is, Glass-Steagall didn't/doesn't regulate the entities responsible for the melt down.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#125
Umm...what? Glass-Steagall was exactly about regulating banks and securites that cause the depresion
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#155
GS didn't regulate AGI, Lehman Bros, Bear Stearns, Washington Mutual, Chevrolet, Chrysler, etc.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#163
Wrong. GS regulated ALL securities and ALL banks. Nice try. Why dont you go read up on it.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#171
As I told another poster; I dont accept the "Vote for hillary or else" premise.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#146
These aren't the main issues with Clinton... In fact, they would appeal to some voters.
Skwmom
Feb 2016
#87
K&R. In general, you can tell from the posts on DU that the thoughtful people, the people
JDPriestly
Feb 2016
#90
I love Bernie, but She's still a million times better than ANY republican candidate.
OverBurn
Feb 2016
#102
'They'? Is that like 'Those people?' How about 'we' meaning the people who are voting for her?
randome
Feb 2016
#109
Right... sure... malign Bernie supporters as acting like tea party...that'll win hearts and minds...
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#217
I fully believe in the power of the vote........................................
turbinetree
Feb 2016
#172
Excluding the rich and powerful, Hillary supporters should never again mock Republicans
Broward
Feb 2016
#185
Since nobody can be bothered to do the research, here are links that support fully or in large part
crim son
Feb 2016
#173
"whoever the DNC nominates!" Like hell. It's the people's choice... NOT the DNC's. Full stop!
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#210
Fuck Who Trump Appoints To The Supreme Court I'll Have My 'Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bernie Sticker
Corey_Baker08
Feb 2016
#203
Just be practical. Hold your nose firmly, forget principles, your conscience, and vote for
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2016
#206
One thing this primary has done is drain away any marginal support I once had for her
deutsey
Feb 2016
#270