2016 Postmortem

TBF

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73. "I'm willing to rip the Democratic Party to shreds" -

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:06 PM

Feb 2016

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With all due respect that is really difficult to believe. Your gauge as to how Bernie is doing as a revolutionary is whether he is "willing to go after DWS"? WTF do you think is going on here? He is traveling across this country, going from stadium to stadium, filling them with people ready to help him steer this party left. You know what happens when he becomes president? Amongst many other things he makes it clear who he would like to run the DNC. And I can promise you it won't be DWS.

You start by saying "change is hard and difficult ... keep fighting ... long term objectives" - and then jump at the end to assuring us that you are a "radical leftist ... happy to join the revolution when it comes"

So, to sum up, you want us all to accept this incremental nonsense, but then be ready to jump into the revolution if it happens to appear out of thin air?

Comrade it doesn't work that way. We ARE the revolution or it doesn't happen. I'm with Bernie and as far as I'm concerned it IS Bernie or Bust. I'm ready to burn it all down. When you figure out which side you're on you let us know. Until then maybe just stay out of the way.

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Who would ever want to ask our young people to scale back their dreams and goals? [View all] Dragonfli Feb 2016 OP

BIG K&R SHRED Feb 2016 #1

Thanks! I write very few OPs, largely because few ever read them, I appreciate your K&R /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #30

I read them noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #52

Thanks brother / or Sister (sorry I don't know which so as to properly address you) Dragonfli Feb 2016 #61

Glad I could help noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #64

I can give you this in reply Dragonfli Feb 2016 #65

Not I. LWolf Feb 2016 #2

And we shall! We are legion, there are those that would divide the 99%, if they can't we win. Dragonfli Feb 2016 #29

''We have more will than wallet.'' Octafish Feb 2016 #3

Damn right we do! Especially if we get together rather than falling for the tactics Dragonfli Feb 2016 #8

Me, my banks and I tk2kewl Feb 2016 #4

Not mine, I have seen it used around the board but can not recollect who first started it /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #6

Inspiration instead of dismissiveness Paulie Feb 2016 #5

He also knew the map and the key to getting it done, if only he had not been assasinated Dragonfli Feb 2016 #9

Rec & Kick. MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #7

At what point does a rational discussion of obstacles to goals enter the picture? stevenleser Feb 2016 #10

The biggest obstacle of all is a self determined defeatism, a lack to even fight but to concede. Dragonfli Feb 2016 #11

Thanks for the Berniebros response of attacking folks whose inconvenient truths you don't like stevenleser Feb 2016 #12

You are missing a big point. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #72

What do we do... LAS14 Feb 2016 #27

Dreaming the obstacle away treestar Feb 2016 #33

I find this position really weird. Meldread Feb 2016 #13

If you have ever listened to Bernie speak you would realize he knows he can't do it alone Dragonfli Feb 2016 #16

Remove the last word from your subject and you will have it right. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #17

I proudly stand with Steven Leser v2.0.08, that dude was a keen judge of character Fumesucker Feb 2016 #34

I remember him, he helped me learn just how corrupt and untrustworthy a certain Clinton was Dragonfli Feb 2016 #41

"I'm willing to rip the Democratic Party to shreds" - TBF Feb 2016 #73

Woohoo.... haikugal Feb 2016 #74

People who don't want those young people upset with the Democratic Party, that who CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #14

Be prepared to be attacked for bringing up real world obstacles and likely results stevenleser Feb 2016 #15

Old Chinese saying.... CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #19

You ignore the fact that Sanders has the better chance to win the GE via young voters Dragonfli Feb 2016 #20

"Scale back" no. Just put on hold. oasis Feb 2016 #18

Well, then we better resolve our corporate vs progressive differences and make sure Sanders wins Dragonfli Feb 2016 #21

Scalia's death changes everything. oasis Feb 2016 #23

I have been awake the whole time, I am sure Obama will nominate a proper justice. Dragonfli Feb 2016 #25

Making decisions based upon fear rarely leads to favorable results. frylock Feb 2016 #38

Yeah? We knew we'd be replacing justices. In what way is anything changed beyond granting Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #22

Urgency. Scalia's death is a wake up call. There will be oasis Feb 2016 #24

We have a sitting president who is more than capable of making a sound choice. frylock Feb 2016 #40

No SCOTUS appointment. I don't care how capable he is. oasis Feb 2016 #42

Are you saying that Obama can't appoint a new SCJ? frylock Feb 2016 #44

No lifetime justices will get a senate vote during the remainder oasis Feb 2016 #45

I find your lack of faith... disturbing. frylock Feb 2016 #46

"There was no harm to humans in the making of this reply" oasis Feb 2016 #47

Put on hold for another 40 years. jeff47 Feb 2016 #76

Dream crushers in need of cannon fodder. PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #26

Very succinct yet very true. /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #28

kicking /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #31

Dreams alone are not enough treestar Feb 2016 #32

This is a political revolution and he is already convincing millions, perhaps you have Dragonfli Feb 2016 #37

It's not going to convince other people just to have Bernie say that treestar Feb 2016 #43

My poor deaf brother or sister/ they already are convinced Dragonfli Feb 2016 #50

it's dreams PLUS a solid set of concrete plans for implementing them; Bernie has provided LOTS of de amborin Feb 2016 #63

K&R I'm with you 100% LongTomH Feb 2016 #35

Thanks Tom, it is well past time to start making gains again, Only one candidate is offering to help Dragonfli Feb 2016 #48

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Someone who is comfortable or even well off with the status quo of course Fumesucker Feb 2016 #36

Perhaps even someone getting even further enriched every day by the status as well /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #39

Do you have a link to where she asked young people to scale back? Hoyt Feb 2016 #51

She implies it every time she speaks Dragonfli Feb 2016 #54

Why, because she doesn't promise folks a $22,000 raise, no inflation, "free Healthcare, free Hoyt Feb 2016 #56

No because she is doing what the title of my op SAYS. Look, I know you favor the right side of the Dragonfli Feb 2016 #58

So you have no link to what you said. Yeah, I have my mind made up. Like you don't. Hoyt Feb 2016 #60

Well at least you got the last word in , oh shit, I fucked that up for you Dragonfli Feb 2016 #62

Is this a trick question? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #53

No rather a rhetorical one based on a DUer's observation and commentary on the following article Dragonfli Feb 2016 #55

Someone raking in hundreds of millions of dollars from the current power structure? AzDar Feb 2016 #57

Someone just won a stuffed animal at the carnival! Dragonfli Feb 2016 #59

They want our children to just give up and accept that they are the first generation not expected liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #66

knr and slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #67

Thank you! Dragonfli Feb 2016 #68

The millennials are involved and will make a strong showing IF they are inspired ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #69

Could be better, serious health problems - deep, make that really deep in poverty. Dragonfli Feb 2016 #70

She is adorable and I hope an inspiration to get you moving ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #71

Thank you so much for this OP haikugal Feb 2016 #75

K&R! I apologize for missing this excellent post. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #77

Thank You! Your Opinion means a great deal to me and well, you are just so, enthusiastic!!! /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #78