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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I'm old and jaded. I sure hate to see the enthusiasm of young people stifled instead of encouraged. [View all]dr60omg
(283 posts)78. I am not trying to be disrespectful but your definition of neoliberalism is incorrect
There is a specific definition of neoliberalism and before you go hoping to squash opposition like a bug perhaps it would help if you understood the term. Here is the good old fashioned Encyclopedia Britannica's definition http://www.britannica.com/topic/neoliberalism
But I will use a transcript from Democracy now to demonstrate how it is put into action http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/6/naomi_klein I am also going to provide you a link to her book which is not filled with dense or opaque language that honestly everyone should read entitled the Shock Doctrine which luckily is now available for free online in pdf form http://www.infoshop.org/amp/NaomiKlein-TheShockDoctrine.pdf ... The movie made from it is available on you tube
Having said that neoliberalism consigns everything and throws literally everybody or every BODY into the market place to be bought sold and used as a commodity. In other words subjects become objects and objects are assigned value. We have seen that happen to public education in the US, the private prison industry (remember that in order to be profitable the private prisons must be filled), the examples go on and on ... It is not something that people ought see as a personal critique against them but as an institutional critique if you are taking it personally it is a function of hegemony (I think that word is used to often so I will not use it again here).
It may be a function of education or a knowledge of the forces that shape the society in which we exist in now. It is not a term that is just thrown around it has very specific meaning.
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I'm old and jaded. I sure hate to see the enthusiasm of young people stifled instead of encouraged. [View all]
Armstead
Feb 2016
OP
Suppression seems to be the main theme anymore combined with divide and conquer. I don't even
RKP5637
Feb 2016
#1
You are incorrect that "the sum at the end of the game is zero for the one who loses."
Vattel
Feb 2016
#67
Your comment would make sense if the slamming of young voters did not happen in advance of any
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2016
#102
Maybe if the caucus wouldn't have been such chaos he would have prevailed. Amazing how they REFUSED
Skwmom
Feb 2016
#13
Point to any instance where "chaos" kept someone who supported Sanders from voting...
brooklynite
Feb 2016
#54
If I were a young Hillary supporter I wouldn't feel very welcome on this forum.
grossproffit
Feb 2016
#7
If you were a young Hillary supporter, you would be advocating the final sale of our democracy
FiveGoodMen
Feb 2016
#45
If they are told to "Give up and support the Meh candidate of the status quo.."
Armstead
Feb 2016
#16
so we should give credence to threats of staying home if their candidate is not nominated?
DrDan
Feb 2016
#20
To me his attitude seems to be to look at the situation in the general election logically
mythology
Feb 2016
#106
I think the "everyone is corrupt/ establishment except for Bernie" thing is stifling the vote.
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#18
He is beating the "we're all going to make money" drum pretty loudly, and it's working.
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#27
Oh please, casting shade on Planned Parenthood, the CBC, and most every other person who has
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#57
Sanders did dismiss PP after they endorsed Clinton. Foolish to have sour grapes like that.
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#98
I think a lot of people miss the nuances, and have fallen for the "all the same" crap...
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#118
I agree with you there. Im still trying to figure out what Trump is playing at. Best I can think of
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#125
I had resisted listening to anything but sound bites, and after seeing him last night....
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#135
A familiar dance: 1) shit on young voters, 2) shit on their dreams, 3) bitch about their low turnout
Attorney in Texas
Feb 2016
#19
Maggie if we all did what Bernie said and were to pressure those that are supposed
bkkyosemite
Feb 2016
#31
That's exactly what they want. For all of us to give up and stop being enthusiastic.
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2016
#28
Better than McGovern redux. But I basically agree with you. Growing up is not easy.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#32
We've been "holding our ground since the 80's" and look what it has gotten us
Armstead
Feb 2016
#117
I am not trying to be disrespectful but your definition of neoliberalism is incorrect
dr60omg
Feb 2016
#78
Yes I know and now people can read the book for free and watch the movie for free
dr60omg
Feb 2016
#109
I don't want to see it stifled either. Which is why I am not fond of candidates pushing for things
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#94
We all are going to die which makes life meaningless. Nihilism is objective truth.
Armstead
Feb 2016
#112
What is he doing to help elect other Dems to office? The ones he will need to make changes?
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#120
He is going to get a fuckload of really liberal progressive youth out to vote for one.
Goblinmonger
Feb 2016
#122
If he isnt even trying to help people get elected, how do you think they will work for him
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#127
Is Clinton getting record turnout? And Sanders got many more votes than Trump in NH
Armstead
Feb 2016
#129
Clinton will do fine in the GE. Thats when Dems turnout. About twice as many DEMS voted in the 08
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#130
It's also important for young voters to learn that we live in a representative democracy.
Trust Buster
Feb 2016
#95
I think the mistake that many current Democrats make is to assume that there is some inherent value
Maedhros
Feb 2016
#136
I think you're right...My loyalty is primarily residual for what it used to stand for
Armstead
Feb 2016
#137
Exactly. Down here in Florida - being admonished to support the "D" no matter what,
djean111
Feb 2016
#151
So many of these young people expect the *they* will get free college. That's why they support SBS
lunamagica
Feb 2016
#152
And the only way to encourage young people is to let them have their own way?
brooklynite
Feb 2016
#154