2016 Postmortem

dpatbrown

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104. Progressives

Reply to Yavin4 (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:03 PM

Feb 2016

don't support Clinton because she is not one. And as far as "hate" goes, that's bull too.

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Wow, The Hillary Hate Is Becoming Intense on this Forum [View all] Yavin4 Feb 2016 OP

The Bernie hate is so intense from some Hillary supporters that FDR gets disparged in her defense. libtodeath Feb 2016 #1

I have yet to see hatred of Bernie - perhaps you could provide a link DrDan Feb 2016 #60

Try this one libtodeath Feb 2016 #65

where is there any hatred in that post DrDan Feb 2016 #70

Calling Bernie a hippy drop out isnt hatred? libtodeath Feb 2016 #79

that's hatred? just wow DrDan Feb 2016 #101

In other words only things you dont like is libtodeath Feb 2016 #106

no - DrDan Feb 2016 #130

No what is hatred Andy823 Feb 2016 #123

Agreed, the anti-HRC rhetoric here is hateful, ugly and pervasive. lark Feb 2016 #190

i don't hate Hillary Clinton.... teopa Feb 2016 #234

Hippie dropout... quickesst Feb 2016 #124

Some people regard it as a compliment. MADem Feb 2016 #174

OMG you can't be serious. That was an even handed debate, stating facts. nt Fla Dem Feb 2016 #128

No. There are a lot of those about. MADem Feb 2016 #171

You no nothing, Jon Snow. Loki Feb 2016 #168

Then you've had blinders on. Here's just one sample thread Arazi Feb 2016 #87

that's hatred??? lol DrDan Feb 2016 #100

I juries a post that called him a crusty jew. spin that roguevalley Feb 2016 #118

that is getting closer - no doubt - I would vote to hide that as well DrDan Feb 2016 #122

Wow, where is that one? sharp_stick Feb 2016 #162

Wow, I didn't see that one, how long ago and how many posts did that person redstatebluegirl Feb 2016 #173

What was the context? MADem Feb 2016 #180

That poster is an asshole who is currently (and rightly) on time-out Orrex Feb 2016 #189

Where are your links or the OP's links for Clinton hatred? That Guy 888 Feb 2016 #197

You want hatred? Here are just a few of the hateful things said about Bernie: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #204

The Hillary supporters sure show how much they dislike looking in a mirror here. libtodeath Feb 2016 #221

Every time I've linked to those posts someone alerted on me. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #225

What are you talking about? MelSC Feb 2016 #81

"Even the Hillary supporters like Bernie." pangaia Feb 2016 #113

Of course, Bernie is honest and has good policies. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #202

No, actually, it's not. n/t EffieBlack Feb 2016 #92

Yep, and I have seen it. hifiguy Feb 2016 #108

That's simply false Orrex Feb 2016 #147

NO!! It's much more intense on the Sanders side, and I'm neutral on both candidates. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #165

+1. nt MADem Feb 2016 #170

The Clinton campaign has been treating Sanders with kid gloves Gothmog Feb 2016 #166

Wrong. The Hillary campaign accuses Sanders supporters of being hateful. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #228

FDR was not good for all Americans. Pointing that out is important, so history will not repeat it's bettyellen Feb 2016 #186

Wow! libtodeath Feb 2016 #203

I'm sorry if I am the first to tell you this! His housing programs skipped over POC and SS didn't bettyellen Feb 2016 #214

I wish you could have met my mother. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #230

All politicians are limited to some extent by the context of their times. Was just explaining FDR bettyellen Feb 2016 #237

He was pretty much a savior for my mother, and my mother was a very devout Christian. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #244

Young people today have no idea of how our country suffered under the Bushes because Obama has bettyellen Feb 2016 #246

Come on look at the threads there is no Bernie hate WI_DEM Feb 2016 #196

No sense in looking Old Codger Feb 2016 #219

Just simply not true. George II Feb 2016 #216

"Becoming..." alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #2

Ain't that the truth! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #46

It's heading toward the edge of the bubble though alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #75

Looks like its gonna sail right into oblivion workinclasszero Feb 2016 #78

Great graphic! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #84

I combat it with love. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #3

Thank you. H2O Man Feb 2016 #13

No need to thank me... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #18

Thanks for reminding me. H2O Man Feb 2016 #23

Excellent idea, and follow it with: George II Feb 2016 #220

sorry but progressivism is not further along in America tk2kewl Feb 2016 #4

...and a big helping of ignorance. n/t Ron Green Feb 2016 #12

if you mean the buying into "pragmatic centrism" tk2kewl Feb 2016 #16

+1 JudyM Feb 2016 #38

Opposing a candidate and pointing out their many, many flaws nichomachus Feb 2016 #5

^^THIS^^ farleftlib Feb 2016 #25

I was told in no uncertain terms that many here "HATE" Hillary and therefore DrDan Feb 2016 #63

I can also attest to that. eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #80

That door has swung both ways! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #121

I have seen one HRC supporter saying they would not support Bernie - unacceptable imo DrDan Feb 2016 #127

I have seen way more than 1, but I agree with your statement and will do the same for Hillary Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #161

Candidates have to EARN my support. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #194

Nailed it! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #97

Bingo! Roland99 Feb 2016 #107

Spot on!! MissDeeds Feb 2016 #141

Unless you point out a candidate's potential vulnerabilities, of course Orrex Feb 2016 #156

Exactly! Thanks for pointing that out. nt Duval Feb 2016 #210

Truman said Old Codger Feb 2016 #223

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2016 #249

I support "casues" over individual "leaders." cyberswede Feb 2016 #6

exactly, there are others that I would have supported...but Bernie stepped up. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #26

So if I mention.... daleanime Feb 2016 #7

I don't think so. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #24

please supply the facts that you think make your statement "factually accurate" tk2kewl Feb 2016 #34

CRICKETS.................................................................. nt pkdu Feb 2016 #42

That act had nothing to do with our unilateral war..... virtualobserver Feb 2016 #48

It was followed up by four days of bombing. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #64

The Act specifically refused to grant the President authority to use U.S. Military force. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #72

Bill Clinton's unilateral action of bombing, not authorized by the act...that built public support.. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #83

If you mention any issue other than the inevitability of Hillary as nominee you're a hater BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #28

No. But calling someone a liar, a criminal, a closet Republican and promising NEVER to vote EffieBlack Feb 2016 #109

Excellent analysis that reflects reality. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #116

What if you perceive someone as a person who has lied repeatedly, done the work of the GOP, etc? FiveGoodMen Feb 2016 #193

Excellent post obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #207

What??? angrychair Feb 2016 #208

such a parcel of nonsense yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #8

Bernie hate here has been at a steady 11 from day one. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #9

This site influenced me MaggieD Feb 2016 #35

Sorry to hear. KPN Feb 2016 #56

Too many to mention, but.... MaggieD Feb 2016 #74

Saying that the Republican controlled House would not allow such thing to even be debated Trust Buster Feb 2016 #137

Do you know the difference between dishonest and wrong? sammythecat Feb 2016 #160

He's not talking about Bernie's campaign proper. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #131

+1000 stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #103

So, you prefer someone who changes their stance based upon popular opinion? Roland99 Feb 2016 #110

I prefer Clinton MaggieD Feb 2016 #115

Not a strawman. Just look at her opposition to same-sex marriage, support of TPP, etc. Roland99 Feb 2016 #242

I feel the same way. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #120

Why can't people make up their own minds? Boggles my mind. So and so said something about libdem4life Feb 2016 #139

No one claimed that one should not make up their own mind. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #151

i feel timmymoff Feb 2016 #176

Nonsense. DCBob Feb 2016 #47

absolutely DrDan Feb 2016 #67

Agreed. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #126

This obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #211

LOL, you have apparently not seen BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #82

Third Way politics is the reason UglyGreed Feb 2016 #10

Yep, the Hillary hate IS real.... PassingFair Feb 2016 #33

this is the only scenario where we could EVER get a chance to seriously float a real liberal UglyGreed Feb 2016 #39

Thank you. timmymoff Feb 2016 #142

Stop pretending like shit isn't being heavily flung both ways. phleshdef Feb 2016 #11

Noticable change after Nevada. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #14

Agreed. I think that as Progressives, we get too caught up in individual leaders, and not the cause Yavin4 Feb 2016 #41

I agree rtracey Feb 2016 #102

You can say that again... chillfactor Feb 2016 #15

"Progressives worship individual leaders, not causes" AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #17

No. I'm a Progressive, but I don't put too much emotion into individual leaders. Yavin4 Feb 2016 #53

Bernie's campaign isn't about him... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #19

Oh no, it's ALL about him MaggieD Feb 2016 #51

I'm sorry you've become so jaded... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #59

I've been involved in politics for 38 years - he's not fooling me MaggieD Feb 2016 #68

Older folks, unfortunately, still think msnbc is progressive and rachel is a radical floppyboo Feb 2016 #95

I don't think many older people.... MaggieD Feb 2016 #111

Ahhh, we do, MaggieD. She used to be a progressive voice, but MSNBC changed ownerships. Duval Feb 2016 #239

No, we don't. We know Comcast bought MSNBC Duval Feb 2016 #226

I agree. I think if Bernie was a 50 year old Senator..... Trust Buster Feb 2016 #143

No, you're actually just jaded. phleshdef Feb 2016 #155

My husband and I are in our 70's. Duval Feb 2016 #206

BA-FUCKING-LONEY The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #86

Doesn't seem so to me - sorry MaggieD Feb 2016 #89

Lying for Hillary? The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #93

If you understand the gravity of the situation, you would understand the emotions. Gregorian Feb 2016 #20

It's not just Hillary hate. There is also a lot of Obama hate infecting DU nowadays. LonePirate Feb 2016 #21

And your OP's usually help the situation FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #22

People here have a short memory aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #27

Hillary isn't a Progressive EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #29

+1 RiverLover Feb 2016 #145

Good post - hope you don't get a hide MaggieD Feb 2016 #30

Somene tired kydo Feb 2016 #32

LOL - easy to predict. MaggieD Feb 2016 #52

I love # 6 artislife Feb 2016 #62

The vitriol is unbelievable liberal N proud Feb 2016 #31

+1... SidDithers Feb 2016 #36

And Camilla Paglia obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #240

Bernie's popularity is not the worship of an individual, it is the ladjf Feb 2016 #37

No one hates Hillary Clinton. We don't know Hillary Clinton. We hate her policies CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #40

+1 Duval Feb 2016 #235

It is a perfect bin in which to attempt to conceal the righteous anger of betrayed progressives. Orsino Feb 2016 #43

You may have missed this, but Bernie's campaign is about "us" and only individuals run for POTUS. JudyM Feb 2016 #44

It's almost as if people have the right to be upset about her record Mufaddal Feb 2016 #45

No kidding. I have to check the url sometimes to see if I made a right turn. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #49

If you support Hillary, you've already made a right turn. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #77

That's total crapola. Armstead Feb 2016 #50

Indeed it is.. and at times it's like a "mob effect". DCBob Feb 2016 #54

Which mob? artislife Feb 2016 #69

Sincerely, I'm not sure I'm following this. GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #55

Everyone best get their pent-up anger out of their systems Zambero Feb 2016 #57

Yes! You make complete sense. maddiemom Feb 2016 #105

yep - the hate cannot possibly be stronger at FR than here DrDan Feb 2016 #58

You think it's bad here? Matariki Feb 2016 #61

Hillary is a 3rd-Way conservative. Has nothing to do with hate. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #65

I would like to see links for your allegation that people here said it was over. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #71

What do you expect from a group of Bernie Bros that jillan Feb 2016 #73

I re-watched Hillary's IWR yes vote speech last night. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #76

"As a contrast, the GBLT community, the only truly successful progressive movement in the past Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #85

yep, rightwingers use to defend Bush, Palin, etc the same way stupidicus Feb 2016 #88

I think you're confused on the sequence of events here. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #90

You lost me when you linked Hillary Clinton to progressivism with a presumably straight face. Gene Debs Feb 2016 #91

yep. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #133

This.... gcomeau Feb 2016 #94

exactly. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #135

You're so right! maddiemom Feb 2016 #96

You're so right, too. appacom Feb 2016 #119

Agree! deerheadgal Feb 2016 #98

Meh bigwillq Feb 2016 #99

Progressives dpatbrown Feb 2016 #104

Yes, Free Republic. Plenty of right wingers here Broward Feb 2016 #112

!!! My first thought, too, in my response. closeupready Feb 2016 #152

Trolling is fierce in here... CapnSteve Feb 2016 #114

Pot. Kettle. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #117

Again, HRC supporters equate disagreement, with Hate... modestybl Feb 2016 #125

And it gives me hope... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #129

In This Citizens Opinion - Deservedly So cantbeserious Feb 2016 #132

Why invoke LGBTers? Prism Feb 2016 #134

Like you Prism Puglover Feb 2016 #183

I'm also enjoying the recent Prop 8 rehashing Prism Feb 2016 #188

Haven't seen that yet. Puglover Feb 2016 #199

Keep in mind that DU isn't representative of the Sanders base Tarc Feb 2016 #136

good one Tarc - the 'fringe bubble of hate and unrealistic stubbornness' comment NoMoreRepugs Feb 2016 #146

Consider some other things she will not do... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #175

Which is why... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #138

Watching her lie SheenaR Feb 2016 #140

43 Folks Recommended This... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #144

Now 73 Folks... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #201

It is disgusting Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #148

Nope. I just can't let that one go by... Bubzer Feb 2016 #149

Yes. We support Bernie because he does represent our beliefs. Duval Feb 2016 #245

Do you REALLY read the boards of Free Republic? closeupready Feb 2016 #150

What you are seeing is the clash between two groups: Maedhros Feb 2016 #153

It does read like Free Republic, but not for the reason you think it does. JoeyT Feb 2016 #154

Clinton LIES. Bernie is about WE, US, standing up united against a tiny handful of rich fucks. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #157

BIG BIG difference. DrBulldog Feb 2016 #158

Reads exactly like Free Republic when it comes to bashing the Clintons. Beacool Feb 2016 #159

It is a really dark place right now. redstatebluegirl Feb 2016 #163

Nope...Just facts. SoapBox Feb 2016 #164

Bern Followers are Cryptoad Feb 2016 #167

Hillary must release the GS transcripts to convince me she's a progressive. She's DLC all the way. Zen Democrat Feb 2016 #169

I am firmly in the "LTB" category...LOVE THEM BOTH Ryano42 Feb 2016 #172

Best post in this thread. Thank you! bettyellen Feb 2016 #191

Becoming? Jon Ace Feb 2016 #177

Yeah, she's awful. fbc Feb 2016 #178

K&R JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #179

Many Hillary supporters act like the intense negative feelings against Hillary's campaign are just Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #181

I just posted below, the OP spent 2008 hurling invective at Hillary Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #209

Wow, interesting how the worm turns. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #227

Turning worms are fine but castigating others for doing what you yourself have done is hypocrisy Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #238

I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. erlewyne Feb 2016 #182

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #184

Hillary will be the nominee Proud Veteran Feb 2016 #185

Then Trump will be the president FiveGoodMen Feb 2016 #200

Projection. n/t moondust Feb 2016 #187

k & r obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #192

The next thing you know, we Bernie supporters will be demanding to "Bring Hillary to heel"! jalan48 Feb 2016 #195

"Boy, The Hillaryites Sure Don't Like It When The "Kitchen Sink" gets thrown back at them" Yavin4 08 Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #198

Wrong. Bernie's campaign is about a cause and not about a person. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #205

Refresher read... fun n serious Feb 2016 #212

Hate vs legitimate critical review Wibly Feb 2016 #213

Right. Cause Hillary supporters are so fucking freindly. Phlem Feb 2016 #215

The Yavin 4 2008 Retrospective: "If Hillary Is The Nominee, We Will Regret It" Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #217

I hope the admins lock this thread up like they locked the other one d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #218

This goes both ways. zentrum Feb 2016 #222

With the intelligent voters in the upcoming dozen or so states, hopefully..... George II Feb 2016 #224

LGBT was successful Depaysement Feb 2016 #229

Marriage equality created the largest expansion of Social Security benefites in our lifetime, it Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #233

Not to TPTB Depaysement Feb 2016 #248

Agree and Disagree with the OP Martin Eden Feb 2016 #231

Wow the projection is intense in this post! smiley Feb 2016 #232

"Progressives worship individual leaders, not causes." LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #236

OK, here's a link that I'm sure will get ignored by Hillary supporters because Phlem Feb 2016 #241

To say that Progressives are "fanboy's without a cause" is a bullshit assertion. nt Umbral18 Feb 2016 #243

Not following a "leader" is exactly why I won't vote for Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #247

Sorry, locking. Goblinmonger Feb 2016 #250