2016 Postmortem

dsc

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25. you are dead wrong on point 3

Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:15 PM

Feb 2016

Several states have no income tax whatsoever (WA, FL, NH for example) many others have no progressisivity to their income tax at all or only due to exemptions (Ie a flat tax rate). NC is one of those. Even those with income taxes that are progressive nearly always raise a significant portion of their income from sales taxes which are entirely regressive and property taxes which are often regressive.

The people who currently have to pay tuition are often wealthier than their states as a whole. Thus this would be an income transfer from the poor and lower middle classes to the upper middle class and rich.

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Clinton: "I honestly believe that my plan to make college affordable..." [View all] TheProgressive Feb 2016 OP

Honestly? Wilms Feb 2016 #1

No. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #8

Her campaign surrogates have begun saying again that she and Bernie are the same, except that she merrily Feb 2016 #2

The same deceit used when she says "universal health coverage" instead of "universal health care" arcane1 Feb 2016 #3

Words do have meaning... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #5

Good point. Universal health "coverage" is an insurance industry goal. senz Feb 2016 #31

She's so full of it. She just wants to tweak what is already azmom Feb 2016 #4

She'll make it affordable for Chelse, the Trumps, The Dimons, The Blankfeins. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #6

Apparently she is unaware of some of the basics of lending. jeff47 Feb 2016 #7

Hillary actually explained why she didn't think it should be free Progressive dog Feb 2016 #9

So poor kids gotta pay 'cause rich kids gotta pay tk2kewl Feb 2016 #12

I say, free-tuition to everyone - no means testing. Period TheProgressive Feb 2016 #13

When you run the country, Progressive dog Feb 2016 #53

First, by definition, these are my educated opinions... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #54

How, exactly, does means testing deny education? Progressive dog Feb 2016 #57

No offense, but throwing shit up against a wall to see if it sticks doesn't cut it with me... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #58

I won't comment on the thoughtful intelligence of Progressive dog Feb 2016 #59

I don't believe that my family or Donald Trump's family..should have the advantage of free college. DJ13 Feb 2016 #15

And anyone who pretends not to understand that hifiguy Feb 2016 #41

Do you feel the same about public k-12 now? notadmblnd Feb 2016 #27

They don't let most k-12 students vote Progressive dog Feb 2016 #48

so that is why kids need to pay for college? notadmblnd Feb 2016 #49

There is a difference between an example and a Progressive dog Feb 2016 #50

No one said it should be mandatory notadmblnd Feb 2016 #51

Bernie's proposal is for 4 year colleges Progressive dog Feb 2016 #56

Hillary has a tell. She says "honestly" as a predicate to many knowing lies. Read some Vote2016 Feb 2016 #10

her tell is..... smiley Feb 2016 #22

only 2/3 of his plan, if that, is paid by the stock tax dsc Feb 2016 #11

Got some sort of data to back your claim? TheProgressive Feb 2016 #14

His own bill, the one he points to and says is his plan dsc Feb 2016 #16

No, I prefer to be looking at what you are looking at to make your statement... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #18

Here is a USA today article dsc Feb 2016 #21

Thanks, dsc, for the link and info... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #24

you are dead wrong on point 3 dsc Feb 2016 #25

Well, I don't accept your claims of regressive taxes... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #29

They are regressive dsc Feb 2016 #30

"I realize that being a Bernie supporters means math doesn't matter or something" TheProgressive Feb 2016 #33

Bernie's plan is FULLY PAID FOR by Wall Street speculation tax. senz Feb 2016 #34

No it isn't dsc Feb 2016 #36

This "bill" you're deflecting with is NOT Bernie's presidential plan. senz Feb 2016 #37

FFS it's Sanders's own bill: the states pay 33% Recursion Feb 2016 #23

Sanders says NOTHING about "states pay 33%." senz Feb 2016 #35

there is a liar here but it isn't us dsc Feb 2016 #43

This "bill" has NOTHING to do with Sanders' platform. senz Feb 2016 #44

He put for the bill after he announced for President dsc Feb 2016 #45

No. Bernie's plan is what Bernie SAYS his plan is. senz Feb 2016 #46

FULLY PAID FOR by imposing a tax on Wall St. speculators. senz Feb 2016 #32

China? hifiguy Feb 2016 #40

She wants to make college affordable for who? gyroscope Feb 2016 #17

I think the translation is: 'make college lucrative for Wall St' TheProgressive Feb 2016 #19

Wall Street demands another generation of debt slaves. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #20

The average American's "quality of life" doesn't even register for Hillary. senz Feb 2016 #26

And what Wall Street wants, Herself will deliver. hifiguy Feb 2016 #39

Tepid, at best. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #28

What is all of the above, Alex? hifiguy Feb 2016 #38

Back in the Clinton years, I recall that.... Beartracks Feb 2016 #42

Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2016 #47

She honestly believes she has never lied (or tried to) to the American people. Ponder that. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #52

She is useless. Fearless Feb 2016 #55