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34. Bernie has only been a Democrat for 10 Months
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:25 AM
Feb 2016

The name of this site is "DEMOCRATICunderground.com." It is not "INDEPENDENTunderground.com." So when looking at Senator Sanders, it is clear that his participation as a "Democrat" has been totally self serving. Had he not participated in the Democratic Caucuses in Congress, he would have gotten NOTHING - not Chair of the Veterans Committee. Had he not identified as a Democrat less than 10 month ago, he wouldn't have gotten any traction on his candidacy for President. So after about 5 decades in elective office, he sees the light and becomes a DEMOCRAT - NO, it was self-serving, because he's using the Democratic Party to get what he wants, rather than having worked with Democrats for the past 5 decades to make real change.

Also, there is an ugly contradiction in criticizing Clinton for accepting Wall Street money, yet he accepted Harry Reed PAC money - Searchlight Leadership Fund - when he ran for the Senate - where BofA, JP-Morgan, and other banks were integral to the fund. And, he got plenty of union money too.

So, how can you TRUST Sen. Sanders about being committed to this revolution - when he switched from being and "Independent" in EVERY ELECTION HE RAN FOR - until NOW...He should have been created a national "Independent" organization 5 decades ago as he DIDN'T. The change he purports has to be initiated in the DEMOCRATIC PARTY at this time, because as an Independent, you only get a President worse than George W. Bush - just like Ralph Nader's candidacy in 2000 lost the election to Al Gore...who would have won two more states - including Florida had he not run. So, we get Justice Roberts and Alito...great, as a result we got Citizens United...thus we are worse off as we can't even get back to the good policy of the Clinton Gore Administration nor take back the $3 trillion in tax breaks under Dubya...if you don't have the votes in Congress, it won't happen.

Senator Sanders is more idealistic, using his followers...AND NOT REALISTIC...or if he was, he wouldn't admit to it because he would destroy his political message -"ending income inequality," but having no real plan to get there - sorry a plutonic - theoretical concept is NOT A PLAN - meaning a revolution is not a plan. So, in the end, we'll get greater income inequality and maybe that's the real revolution that will occur, but decades later while half our population suffer - but wait - global warming will have destroyed us first.

Unfortunately, he hasn't helped Democrats get elected to make this change...only himself. And, the only way to get the change is to help other candidates - who happened to be almost exclusively Democrats. He needs 60 votes in the Senate and at least 50 more Democrats in the House of Representatives (because just getting the majority won't be enough). He may believe in the trickle down theory...but that's Ronald Reagan...it doesn't work...you have to directly help other candidates...and Senator Clinton has for years - including President Obama, going to dozens of states in 2008, being the principal at scores of rallies, and helping Democrats win...

Also, he's misleading millions of low income wage earners about his single payer plan. As many get health care from their employer - whether it is from a large private employer or government, they LOSE in his plan, as they would then be taxed to get the health care that they now get as part of the total compensation package - IT'S WRONG.

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DAMN RIGHT! elleng Feb 2016 #1
If we're just throwing out names. . . StrayKat Feb 2016 #33
Good thoughts. elleng Feb 2016 #49
Given the current DNC leadership and actions, Trump will be the clear winner in 2016. The DNC RKP5637 Feb 2016 #51
Unfortunately you're a truthsayer and depressing. elleng Feb 2016 #53
Sadly, see #58. The writing is on the wall for what's happening, sadly. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #59
nobody's preventing new voters from "overwhelmingly voting for bernie" they are just staying home nt msongs Feb 2016 #2
DNC too busy "Buying Endorsements" with 3rd Way Cash for Hillary to conduct voter drives FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #3
I wish they'd offer to buy my endorsement ... Impedimentus Feb 2016 #6
Not true. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #13
Thanks, +151,578! dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #25
Yep, It's beyond disingenuous. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #27
I don't think it's a matter of it being his fault... Adrahil Feb 2016 #45
Bernie will turn out his wave of people more in the general election dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #50
Honestly, I do not believe that. But that's one reason he's Adrahil Feb 2016 #56
You don't believe what? dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #62
I do not believe that Sanders would dramatically boost turnout in November if nominated. Adrahil Feb 2016 #65
Fair enough. I sure don't see Hillary driving a large turnout. - eom dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #67
Which is also fair enough. Adrahil Feb 2016 #74
Thanks, we will need it. - eom dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #75
self-delete, posted in wrong place dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #60
Wow, talk about a reading comprehension problem... kristopher Feb 2016 #54
Ah yes, another courteous Sandernista. Adrahil Feb 2016 #57
What is more rude than deliberate false framing? kristopher Feb 2016 #61
I do not believe it is false. Adrahil Feb 2016 #64
Of course you don't. kristopher Feb 2016 #69
Heh.... yeah. Sure. Objectivity. Adrahil Feb 2016 #73
That's right. Bernie made history in NH turnout. senz Feb 2016 #30
I'm tired of it too. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #32
there was a real grassroots effort here to make that happen redruddyred Feb 2016 #38
Then why didn't he turn out voters in NV? leftofcool Feb 2016 #40
Why didn't Hillary? TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #48
Wrong, the DNC made sure here in NY eg, that new voters who might want to register to vote for sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #15
thank you. Please consider making this a sourced OP. nt kristopher Feb 2016 #55
This is because there aren't as many democratic candidates. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #4
Howard Dean was in charge of the DNC in 2008 and he worked on a 50 state GOTV campaign. w4rma Feb 2016 #35
Yep, Debbie's ineptitude never ceases to amaze me. n/t TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #37
DNC too busy propping up HRC to be bothered whooping up enthusiasm. nc4bo Feb 2016 #5
DWS and Dem establishment would much rather have republican president than president Sanders. Nyan Feb 2016 #7
DWS and the Dem establishment are lost, they have no F'en idea what they are doing. Trump is RKP5637 Feb 2016 #58
You would think that's plainly obvious. Nyan Feb 2016 #70
It's a shame. Trump is gathering steam and momentum, like it or not, he talks to the core of what RKP5637 Feb 2016 #72
The turnout is VERY concerning, but you can't lay it at the feet of only Agschmid Feb 2016 #8
DWS could have put an effort into showcasing the candidates, HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #10
We all should be out there getting new voters... Agschmid Feb 2016 #11
Turnout has been abysmal since 2010 mid terms as people lost faith in the entire system. If Sanders sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #66
She is setting up the latest Clinton spin. Skwmom Feb 2016 #9
yep 840high Feb 2016 #29
So where are the DNC voter drives? Fearless Feb 2016 #12
don't hold your breath FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #14
You only had to wait 11 min - see below MaggieD Feb 2016 #17
Excuse me... where are the D-N-C voter drives LIKE I SAID. Fearless Feb 2016 #21
I guess Clinton supporters will have to pick up the slack MaggieD Feb 2016 #16
Imagine how low the turnout would be if Bernie wasn't in the race?? See the last two sabrina 1 Feb 2016 #18
Sabrina, you know that crew doesn't want to talk about that! It's so obvious but nc4bo Feb 2016 #19
This is becoming a reoccuring theme for me around here. OZi Feb 2016 #20
Anither reason why Sanders would be the stronger GE candidate. californiabernin Feb 2016 #22
Why are hey staying home NOW?? This is the time to go VOTE! fun n serious Feb 2016 #23
Who stopped the Bernie revolution workinclasszero Feb 2016 #24
Voter turn out is down because there are less candidates. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #28
The irony is that Maddow's contributing to this with her narrative. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #26
This is what I say to Mrs. Selective Outrage and her Clinton spin. Skwmom Feb 2016 #31
Bernie has only been a Democrat for 10 Months justamiddleclasser Feb 2016 #34
Hillary still isn't a "Democrat". She's a carpetbagging Rockefeller Republican. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #36
Can't agree more Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #39
+1000 The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #44
wait, what?? wyldwolf Feb 2016 #41
MY theory about low voter turnout... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #42
anyone else notice restorefreedom Feb 2016 #43
The heck with her and her shilling for HRC madokie Feb 2016 #46
'Record Breaking' is a term of art. Nevada Republican Caucus 08 had under 35,000 voters '12 was less Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #47
Debbie Downer continuing her epic nap...? AxionExcel Feb 2016 #52
Notice that since this well-researched issue doesn't favor Bernie, Maddow gets thrown under the bus. Lil Missy Feb 2016 #63
They are hiding their light under a bushel pdsimdars Feb 2016 #68
another soul sold olddots Feb 2016 #71
HRC is the reason voter turn out is so low! Not many like her and the msm have been pushing juxtaposed Feb 2016 #76
Maybe Dem turnout is low because... Neon Gods Feb 2016 #77
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