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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Tough on crime a main policy of Clintons. Hypocritical for them to attack Bernie on his vote. [View all]BainsBane
(57,306 posts)32. I see you've missed the latest
http://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/sanders-campaign-says-he-voted-for-crime-bill-due-to-weapons?utm_term=.cnjxP1Jaq#.vl8OWQPk7
Politicians make compromises in voting all the time, but that doesn't mean they aren't responsible for their votes. He has chosen to blame Hillary Clinton for policies he voted for. He chose to make a campaign issue out of a situation he voted to create. He has since made excuses for his vote that don't hold up, and his supporters don't care. Legislation doesn't matter; action doesn't matter. What matters is he tells you what you want to hear.
You at free to vote based on any criteria you want, but Sanders is not immune from scrutiny, as his supporters insist he should be. Not everyone values words over actions. In fact, when I see someone whose rhetoric diverges so greatly from their record, I judge them lacking in credibility. That is an entirely reasonable and logical response.
Politicians make compromises in voting all the time, but that doesn't mean they aren't responsible for their votes. He has chosen to blame Hillary Clinton for policies he voted for. He chose to make a campaign issue out of a situation he voted to create. He has since made excuses for his vote that don't hold up, and his supporters don't care. Legislation doesn't matter; action doesn't matter. What matters is he tells you what you want to hear.
You at free to vote based on any criteria you want, but Sanders is not immune from scrutiny, as his supporters insist he should be. Not everyone values words over actions. In fact, when I see someone whose rhetoric diverges so greatly from their record, I judge them lacking in credibility. That is an entirely reasonable and logical response.
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Tough on crime a main policy of Clintons. Hypocritical for them to attack Bernie on his vote. [View all]
madfloridian
Feb 2016
OP
spoke loudly against yet voted for it anyway? no profile in courage award for that move nt
msongs
Feb 2016
#2
And the Clintons loved it, pushed it, took pride in it. "Incarcerating a country."
madfloridian
Feb 2016
#4
evidently sanders loved it too since he voted for it. he voted for it when he could have voted no nt
msongs
Feb 2016
#5
Sometimes you hold your nose and vote for something because it's better than the alternative.
kcass1954
Feb 2016
#52
I know you know better so why side with the Clintons that wanted to imprison those that
rhett o rick
Feb 2016
#17
Turning that around, why should Hillary Clinton be blamed for the Violence Against Women Act...
George II
Feb 2016
#62
You'd have to describe something that actually "works" for it to work both ways.
jeff47
Feb 2016
#68
So let's see if we can guess your point. I think you agree that the bill was devistating to
rhett o rick
Feb 2016
#55
I am not sure why you think it appropriate to claim that I am wealthy. You don't know me.
rhett o rick
Feb 2016
#59
How sad that some choose to worship the Wealthy. The Oligarchy doesn't love you. nm
rhett o rick
Feb 2016
#65
Yes, here is Bernie speaking about that issue and you can bet if he had voted against the bill
Uncle Joe
Feb 2016
#42
So you wouldn't have said Sanders was pro-rape or against women if he had voted against it?
That Guy 888
Feb 2016
#24
Appreciate the kick. It won't get many recs at all. So many have me on ignore.
madfloridian
Feb 2016
#9
Bernie is on the record - clear as can be - and the accusation from ClintonWorld is subterfuge.
AtomicKitten
Feb 2016
#18
More baloney. Of course it's okay to discuss his votes, ALSO okay to discuss Clinton hypocrisy.
madfloridian
Feb 2016
#31
Her buddy DWS is in the times clamoring for more pot smokers in prison.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#30
It was an insane right-wing policy, brought to us by the Third Way and President Clinton.
silvershadow
Feb 2016
#34
That is becuase either many of these folks do not undersatand how these votes happen
nadinbrzezinski
Feb 2016
#36
Don't forget his speech about the Violence Against Women Act in 1994, this is why he voted for it:
beam me up scottie
Feb 2016
#41