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beam me up scottie

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80. One more time in case you "forgot", here's the quote:
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:20 AM
Feb 2016
It is my firm belief that clearly there are people in our society who are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them.

But it is also my view that through the neglect of our government and through a grossly irrational set of priorities, we are dooming today tens of millions of young people to a future of bitterness, misery, hopelessness, drugs, crime, and violence. And, Mr. Speaker, all the jails in the world — and we already imprison more people per capita than any other country — and all of the executions … in the world will not make that situation right.

We can either educate or electrocute. We can create meaningful jobs, rebuilding our society, or we can build more jails. Mr. Speaker, let us create a society of hope and compassion, not one of hate and vengeance.


Bernie didn't call kids "super predators" or say they needed to be brought "to heel" And locked up like animals. He said violent criminals need to be locked up and they do.

He opposed mass incarceration and spoke out at length about the injustices of our criminal justice system:



He tried to change the bill but ultimately voted for the Violence Against Women Act and assault weapons ban. He voted to save women's lives:



Try to spin THAT.

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Funny I don't see the word superpredator anywhere in that quote. TM99 Feb 2016 #1
Hillary apologized for using that word today. ucrdem Feb 2016 #2
Link to her apology? bunnies Feb 2016 #5
Clinton apologizes for 1996 remark on ‘superpredators’ ucrdem Feb 2016 #12
No apology at all, just vague regret over word-choice. arcane1 Feb 2016 #20
No where in that article is an apology. TM99 Feb 2016 #38
I wonder what words she WOULD use today, now that she's more savvy. (n/t) Petrushka Feb 2016 #84
I know exactly what words. TM99 Feb 2016 #99
Theres no apology there. bunnies Feb 2016 #44
Hillary: "looking back, I shouldn't have used those words, and I wouldn't use them today." ucrdem Feb 2016 #51
She didn't apologize. Kittycat Feb 2016 #56
she didn't EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #11
Thing is, Hillary used super-predator and the word 'kids' over and over. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #16
She did? tazkcmo Feb 2016 #101
After 20 + years? I imagine she was very sincere notadmblnd Feb 2016 #108
Me either. bunnies Feb 2016 #3
Nor bringing anyone to "heel" farleftlib Feb 2016 #6
Or "kids" n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #15
Yeah--"horribly violent" and "deeply sick and sociopathic" are so much sweeter! MADem Feb 2016 #22
Sanders doesn't have to apologize for anything & everything he has giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #93
Ah, yes, indeed! MADem Feb 2016 #109
With every single day, the mask just falls further away. The masks are so far from their faces now Number23 Feb 2016 #112
Doesn't it just! MADem Feb 2016 #114
The term was used by lots of people in the 90's - part of a theory of crime. Sancho Feb 2016 #92
So Hillary opposed the Crime Bill? Carlo Marx Feb 2016 #4
You are thinking of Bernie nt pkdu Feb 2016 #78
2 + 2 = 4 Billsmile Feb 2016 #7
Very informative article. Thanks for the link. Petrushka Feb 2016 #86
Thank You For Sharing These Clarifying Truths cantbeserious Feb 2016 #102
"clearly there are people in our society who are horribly violent who are deeply sick and" Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #8
Black, white, and every shade between: You can find them . . . Petrushka Feb 2016 #87
Yes, but they were put in prison in the 90's get tough on crime era. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #105
Some of those prisoners were people thrown onto the street when mental hospitals closed. (eom) Petrushka Feb 2016 #110
I expect that he'll soon deny that he voted for it KingFlorez Feb 2016 #9
He actually released a statement as to why he made that vote. NWCorona Feb 2016 #33
what you are missing EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #10
And then he voted for it. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #13
He held is nose and voted for it, while Hillary praised it. arcane1 Feb 2016 #17
OMG RobertEarl Feb 2016 #19
Here is a link to the votes in the House and in the Senate, where only 2 Democrats voted no.... Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #23
really? dsc Feb 2016 #52
Thank you. noamnety Feb 2016 #14
You are generously assuming honest intent. arcane1 Feb 2016 #18
The quote is bad but the vote is far more significant. ucrdem Feb 2016 #26
My answer hasn't changed since the last time this was brought up. noamnety Feb 2016 #32
you could take the time to listen to the video that was posted earlier tk2kewl Feb 2016 #43
Thank you for posting the entire quote, another Hillary supporter did the same thing earlier. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #21
Doesn't change the fact that Sanders voted for the 1994 Crime Bill. ucrdem Feb 2016 #27
Actually he voted for it to save women's lives, in his own words: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #30
Thanks, some pull this kind of nonsense often. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #36
Of course the Clinton supporter TM99 Feb 2016 #40
^^^ if I could rec a post ^^^ Kittycat Feb 2016 #57
There are such people, just way fewer than most people think. n/t DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #24
This is horribly out of context, the whole speech is on this forum go listen and be embarrassed for Todays_Illusion Feb 2016 #25
The point is that Sanders voted for the 1994 crime bill. ucrdem Feb 2016 #28
Obviously you are missing a lot. Vattel Feb 2016 #29
"clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them." ucrdem Feb 2016 #31
You have problem with putting violent sociopaths behind bars? Vattel Feb 2016 #34
Do you think people like Jeffrey Dahmer shouldn't have been put behind bars? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #35
Very sad and disingenuous posts you are making here - eom dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #41
a few brain cells maybe litlbilly Feb 2016 #37
Let's take a look at the rest of that quote...here 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #39
No singling out kids or race whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #42
Predator: one_voice Feb 2016 #45
Can someone tell me the point of this thread? Neon Gods Feb 2016 #46
Sure, I can. Bernie is against mass incarceration, private prisons and Live and Learn Feb 2016 #91
Hillary wasnt elected to anything in 1994. So yeah, youre missing something. bunnies Feb 2016 #47
"horribly violent ... deeply sick and sociopathic ... must be put behind bars" Kalidurga Feb 2016 #48
The point is that Hillary is getting raked over the coals for less while Bernie skates. ucrdem Feb 2016 #49
Bernie wasn't whistling that's the issue. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #63
She is getting raked because most of the huge increase in the prison population-- eridani Feb 2016 #77
dog-whistles? Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #50
pitch perfect. ucrdem Feb 2016 #53
You honestly think the Bernie Sanders is using a racist dog whistle when he says "urban America"? TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #54
Why should I give him the benefit of the doubt, for one Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #55
Here's my case. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #59
Sorry, Chitown Kev.. I was on the jury and voted to LEAVE. Cha Feb 2016 #67
Sigh. ucrdem Feb 2016 #70
You chopped up a quote and posted it to get people angry and defensive. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #73
You can't chop up a vote and Sanders voted for this thing and defended it. Period. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #74
You didn't post the entire quote and you were called on it. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #76
LOL, I transcribed the recording and the vote is what matters in any case. ucrdem Feb 2016 #79
One more time in case you "forgot", here's the quote: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #80
LOL all the excuses in the world won't change his vote. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #81
Excuses are what you used to try to explain your op. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #82
So he was against it before she was for it, but he voted for it. Okay. nt ucrdem Feb 2016 #83
Keep trying, eventually you'll get it. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #85
Only if they're the same "dog whistles" Obama used after Sandy Hook: beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #62
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #64
What? It's an interview with NPR just like what you posted. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #66
It's a hell of a thing, isn't it? Number23 Feb 2016 #111
Seems to me Hillary should be for legalization and against the death penalty then Csainvestor Feb 2016 #58
I don't get this argument... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #60
I think it's about something that Bill Clinton wrote. delrem Feb 2016 #72
Please see posts 75 and 96. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #95
... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #97
Please listen to Sanders' speech: delrem Feb 2016 #107
Hillary apologized for using a word, but Sanders VOTED for it and defended it using worse words. ucrdem Feb 2016 #75
It would be be nice if we judged people by the same standards. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #96
Please listen to Sanders' speech: delrem Feb 2016 #113
How dare Sanders call people like Dahmer, Albright, Berkowitz and Kemper deeply sick FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #61
Yes. You are missing most of the statement. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #65
He voted for the 94 crime bill that Hillary is supposed to apologize for. ucrdem Feb 2016 #68
OMG She inferred that gang members were super-preditors. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #88
Yes. The Violence of Women Act that was attached to the bill eridani Feb 2016 #69
Isn't it sick how they do this, how they play their game? delrem Feb 2016 #71
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #89
They sure would. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #90
Bernie's right Depaysement Feb 2016 #94
The entire back and forth on this issue MSMITH33156 Feb 2016 #98
Bullshit. TM99 Feb 2016 #100
You are indeed missing a number of things Mufaddal Feb 2016 #103
........ UglyGreed Feb 2016 #104
Bernie's the amendment king. He got the Violence Against Women Act added. valerief Feb 2016 #106
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