2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Sanders Will Need 60 Votes To Pass Anything. But Hillary Clinton Will ONLY NEED 60. [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)Either the content of your post stands on its own or it doesn't. I have no clue why people feel they have to preface a post with that. I post a lot and, offhand, I can't remember a time when I felt a need to do that. Of course, I guess my avatar and sig line relieve me of that, as do my many posts in support of Bernie. Anyway...
Hillary used the term "vast right wing conspiracy," on a very specific occasion, so specific it has its own wiki. I described it correctly in my post--and she was 100% wrong on the facts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vast_right-wing_conspiracy
As far as whether or not the Clintons cause their own problems, I get alerted on just about every time I explain my thoughts, no matter how strictly factual I keep my statements and no matter how many links to credible sources I use to support my factual statements. No hides have resulted so far, but I am not going to risk it right now. And, there are just so many times I am up for doing all that work, just to reply to an unsupported opinion, such as given in your post. Let's just say, I think there are more than two ways to look at the facts, even just the ones in this wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_McDougal
I do think cheating on a spouse without the knowledge of the spouse is relevant to character and personality, trustworthiness of a President, to how he might treat an oath, such as the oath of office or an oath to tell the truth, and other matters. So is reckless behavior. I know most Democrats say otherwise, but you know what they say about opinions: everyone has one.
I also do care that a President was getting a bj while on the phone with another head of state. I also care that a President, whose duty it is to execute laws faithfully, and an attorney, lied under oath to a grand jury. And I care how he treated women who worked for him, even apart from the physical bits.
As to her working with the Republicans better than Bernie would I have to give her the edge. Not because they like her any better ( hard to say who they would hate more).
Actually, no, it's not all that hard if you research some, even just search DU. Republicans have worked with Bernie to get important legislation passed, to the extent that it became a case study in the Brookings Institute on how to work across the aisle. No such thing happened with Hillary. Bernie's also gotten a lot of important amendments he wrote passed into law. Hillary had no such success, even on her two attempts to pass an unconstitutional flag burning statute, something Republicans themselves introduce just about every session.
There is also an article online and posted in DU in which a number of Republicans say how much they like working with him, even though they disagree with him, because he is honest and they know where he stands. I would post links, but, again, I've done that so many times, I'm over it. Also, he hasn't gone out of his way to bad mouth them or disrespect them for two generations in an immature way because he imagines it plays well in Peoria. He criticizes them on issues, yes, but they do the same to Democrats; and they expect it.
Not because they like her any better ( hard to say who they would hate more). But because she is so much closer to them politically and will be willing to, no eager to, get things done. Things that will thrill Republicans and make our side cringe.
There, we agree. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1349384