2016 Postmortem

valerief

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151. Yes, but Hillary has electrolytes. She has what plants crave.

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Sanders Will Need 60 Votes To Pass Anything. But Hillary Clinton Will ONLY NEED 60. [View all] Segami Feb 2016 OP

That really did UglyGreed Feb 2016 #1

giggle oldandhappy Feb 2016 #2

Hillary can "triangulate" at least 10 votes, right? seaotter Feb 2016 #3

yes because Republican always want to work WITH her... Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #71

Why wouldn't they? She called them the enemy of which she is most proud. merrily Feb 2016 #87

Benghazi was a shit show but her carrying of herself was unprofessional. Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #99

I watched for about two hours. She was that way the entire time I watched. Her merrily Feb 2016 #102

Well said, and you would probably be cited for contempt. Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #103

They're obviously proud she was disrespectful. Yet they will post she will get merrily Feb 2016 #104

If elected, the things she'll get done is what I worry about. Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #107

The only things she will get done are the things Republicans want done anyway--and merrily Feb 2016 #108

Correct - Beat me to it. Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #118

Of Course she will get more done than Bernie. HE has to get 60 of them to come alone Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #116

100 Percent Bernie supporter here in defense of Hillary. Gary 50 Feb 2016 #123

Things that will thrill Republicans and make our side cringe. questionseverything Feb 2016 #127

Whom you support does not affect the accuracy of your answer. merrily Feb 2016 #131

Thanks for the lecture. If I feel like stating I support Bernie before I defend Clinton it has Gary 50 Feb 2016 #150

that middle video with the smirk greymouse Feb 2016 #128

Good point, sea otter. Nitram Feb 2016 #121

They will , of course, extend that same good will to Hillary. seaotter Feb 2016 #122

Not if she breaks the Bernie supporter rule and compromises with a few Republicans to win a vote. Nitram Feb 2016 #126

Obama has been more than open to compromise , what makes you.. seaotter Feb 2016 #130

I was responding to a post that suggested that Clinton might reach an agreement but would... Nitram Feb 2016 #133

Deflect much? seaotter Feb 2016 #134

I'm deflecting because I responded to one post and now you want me to respond to a different one? Nitram Feb 2016 #138

Willing, yes. But able? I don't think so. seaotter Feb 2016 #135

That's true. You don't "think" so. nt Nitram Feb 2016 #139

There is certainly no reason one should " think so" seaotter Feb 2016 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author madokie Feb 2016 #4

change it, before it's flagged. I wouldn't flag it but as we've found there are people here trillion Feb 2016 #88

Tweety last night while interrogating Bernie UglyGreed Feb 2016 #5

And AFTER interrogating Sanders... cui bono Feb 2016 #22

Sanders declares Victory!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #23

Thats great.....hopefully Segami Feb 2016 #28

ROFL.... Segami Feb 2016 #24

Did you see the victory one? cui bono Feb 2016 #26

Wonderful UglyGreed Feb 2016 #39

Anytime the majority wants to they can end the need for 60 votes. n/r PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #6

Yes - that artificial roadblock is just there to provide cover for do-nothing politicians Maedhros Feb 2016 #20

+100gabillion%. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #82

There is a theory that it can be done only at the start of a new session or some such. merrily Feb 2016 #97

I used to believe the "only at beginning" theory then Harry Reid used the threat... PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #98

Maybe not. I don't recall all the details of that change. merrily Feb 2016 #145

Harry Reid was afraid to change it but I am not sure. We jwirr Feb 2016 #142

50+1 is still a majority. The "super majority" is needed only to end a filibuster. merrily Feb 2016 #144

Thank you. Old enough to remember a few real filibusters. jwirr Feb 2016 #146

Again, Bernie did it! I think it was 8 hours. He published it as a book. merrily Feb 2016 #147

I watched him and was so proud of him. jwirr Feb 2016 #148

Harry Reid was afraid to change it but I am not sure. We jwirr Feb 2016 #142

Well to be fair Hillary will get the 60 votes. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #7

Yep. Absolutely right. lostnfound Feb 2016 #16

+1 datguy_6 Feb 2016 #17

Blammo. hifiguy Feb 2016 #51

Because she's 'pragmatic' DiehardLiberal Feb 2016 #61

+10000 trillion Feb 2016 #90

This is not accurate. 60 votes are needed to overcome a filibuster, passing is done with a simple Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #8

Technically you need 60 to end the debate (cloture) in order to vote on passage datguy_6 Feb 2016 #19

Thanks, that puts it all together. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #21

Of course I recall the last time we had 60 votes in the Senate DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #9

Hey, c'mon. Kall Feb 2016 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Feb 2016 #10

I can't believe the logic or lack of such that some have that argue that Clinton will be able rhett o rick Feb 2016 #11

Except as we have seen with Obama, if you offer them their own policy they STILL won't pass it. cui bono Feb 2016 #13

Detriment is putting it mildly.... Segami Feb 2016 #15

!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #12

Hillary is anathema to the GOP FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #18

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #25

Sanders, being quite unpopular in the Senate, would have a harder time getting 60 wyldwolf Feb 2016 #27

What is this? Mean Girl Friday? Matariki Feb 2016 #33

what part am I making up? wyldwolf Feb 2016 #35

Which part aren't you making up? Matariki Feb 2016 #42

Every Democrat you listed has endorsed Hillary wyldwolf Feb 2016 #46

So what? I'm sure they need to stay on the right side of DWS Matariki Feb 2016 #50

So, automatically if a Dem endorses HRC Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #56

Stay on topic. You said he was "quite unpopular in the Senate". cui bono Feb 2016 #94

I would guess he would have trouble getting the same votes HRC would Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #34

doubtful wyldwolf Feb 2016 #36

So, those "moderates", like HRC herself, Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #38

Yeah. I didn't think you'd get an answer on that one. MelissaB Feb 2016 #49

no, they'd side with Hillary wyldwolf Feb 2016 #60

Ummm, no Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #73

Ummm, yes wyldwolf Feb 2016 #74

Dem sentaors would or would not vote for Sanders proposals? Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #76

Not red state ones wyldwolf Feb 2016 #77

So, they Dems would side with the GOP Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #79

some almost did during the ACA. So, yeah. And glad you got it. wyldwolf Feb 2016 #81

So moderates will betray you. Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #91

Sanders will tell them to "cut it out" and they will "fall in line" SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #112

Have a lot of the GOPuke majority endorsed HRC? I hadn't noticed. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #37

Exactly wyldwolf Feb 2016 #40

Hillary's compromise only means seeing this dick again.... Segami Feb 2016 #45

Bernie's non-compromise only means seeing this legislatively wyldwolf Feb 2016 #57

And everybody just loooooves Hillary. jillan Feb 2016 #55

they polled Senators? wyldwolf Feb 2016 #58

I count 40 lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #141

Sanders has gotten 60 votes in the Senate before. Has Hillary? Loudestlib Feb 2016 #63

Are you saying Democrats won't vote for Sander's programs. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #124

So, you're telling me Democrats will roll against Sanders because he's Sanders? AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #132

Very Funny Post noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #29

Yay numbers! Fairgo Feb 2016 #30

LOL! Matariki Feb 2016 #31

Could Matthews possibly monicaangela Feb 2016 #32

It was very funny..ha ha. Bobblehead political commentators. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #41

Love it! Karma13612 Feb 2016 #43

Plus her health insurance plans hinge on cooperation from repuke state governors. libtodeath Feb 2016 #44

So the issue favors neither side treestar Feb 2016 #47

Doublethink, doublespeak, Newspeak. hifiguy Feb 2016 #48

Well, she already has 39 to his 0. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #52

I hope people are looking at down ticket candidates like senators and congresspersons. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #53

It's tough. They hate her yet share her values. They like Bernie but senz Feb 2016 #54

When Obama Had A Filibuster Proof Congress.... Billsmile Feb 2016 #59

Except the 3rd way types were there to stop him. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #65

Correct! Billsmile Feb 2016 #67

K&R Mbrow Feb 2016 #62

Tweety. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #64

Very funny! zentrum Feb 2016 #66

60 will be much easier than 60 lobodons Feb 2016 #68

The real issue is cabinet and regulatory agency appointments. Carlo Marx Feb 2016 #69

I refuse to watch Chris Matthews. erlewyne Feb 2016 #70

I stopped watching Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #93

Yep.60 is a much tougher threshold than 60. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #72

or the tingles up his leg. 840high Feb 2016 #78

Since 60>60, that makes perfect sense nikto Feb 2016 #75

There's a mass delusion that Hillary will wave a magic wand and all the people who have made Obama's Vinca Feb 2016 #80

Chris Mathews is merely speaking the unvarnished truth. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #83

Read the OP again. You clearly missed the point. merrily Feb 2016 #85

I missed nothing, Mathews confronted Sanders with the reality of an historicallypolarized Congress. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #86

Matthews was as disingenuous as some DUers, pretending it will be any easier for Hillary to get her merrily Feb 2016 #89

We must have a different definition of the word "dishonesty". Trust Buster Feb 2016 #92

No dishonesty on Sanders part: he says over and over that he cannot do it alone. merrily Feb 2016 #95

College students hear only that which they choose to hear. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #96

Which college do you go to? merrily Feb 2016 #100

College is a couple decades in my rear view mirror. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #105

I guess you can only keep repeating the same things I've answered thrice already. nt merrily Feb 2016 #106

I shared my position with you. I have nothing else to add. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #109

Given that we used to have free tuition, obviously that could never ever happen again eridani Feb 2016 #113

Because Sanders has fewer TIES to CONGRESS. randome Feb 2016 #84

Heh... Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #101

Reminds me of CNN in 2000. moondust Feb 2016 #110

What I found disturbing was Sanders' response. Beacool Feb 2016 #111

No we can't! No we can't! No we can't! eridani Feb 2016 #114

It may not be inspiring, but it's reality. Beacool Feb 2016 #119

Since Clinton doesn't even have the rally attendance-- eridani Mar 2016 #152

Hillary's gonna get the good stuff passed, like, uh, flag burning legislation Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #115

Impeachment votes will be the new Obamacare. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #117

Now, that is not only logical but also funny as hell MichaelSoE Feb 2016 #120

I saw this too, and smelled the oily fumes of corporate media from it. nightscanner59 Feb 2016 #125

There is a difference between those 60 votes. LiberalFighter Feb 2016 #129

There you go getting things confused again! kristopher Feb 2016 #136

LOL. K and R. nt Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #137

I noticed that yawning logic hole as well. DirkGently Feb 2016 #149

Yes, but Hillary has electrolytes. She has what plants crave. valerief Feb 2016 #151