2016 Postmortem

libdem4life

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20. Oligarchy...the best 1% money can buy. Knows no Red or Blue Party...it's the true Green Party...

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:04 AM

Feb 2016

as in green money.

Until Bernie and others who are sick and tired of Oligarchy start to prevail, all of the other candidates...ALL of them support the Oligarchy. Boggles the Mind. Voting against one's best interest used to be a Republican "value". Now it's seeped, yeah, currently deluging the FDR Democratic Party.

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Super Tuesday whistles Dixie [View all] Octafish Feb 2016 OP

How do we rectify that as a nation whose premise is All (Wo)Men are created equal? Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #1

E. R. A. might make a good start. Octafish Feb 2016 #7

Don't see that it would matter, and I am an original ERA door-knocker. ?? Hortensis Feb 2016 #51

Good for you. Octafish Feb 2016 #66

But you think pushing ERA consciousness Hortensis Feb 2016 #70

Not sure. I thought I was answering another question. Octafish Feb 2016 #126

Yes. And if plutocrats can redistribute America's income Hortensis Feb 2016 #127

The Process Octafish Feb 2016 #130

Yes, and every two years we could toss large Hortensis Feb 2016 #131

Where was that picture made? unc70 Feb 2016 #2

Kennebunkport, Maine, Nuevo Dixie. Octafish Feb 2016 #8

This was at the national governors association meeting dsc Feb 2016 #47

Thank you DSC. Lucinda Feb 2016 #85

THE SEVENTY-FIFTH ANNUAL GOVERNORS MEETING, Portland, Maine. July 31 - August 2, 1983 BlueStateLib Feb 2016 #112

By then, Poppy Bush had cut Ronnie Reagan out of the National Security loop. Octafish Feb 2016 #132

so my vote should not count because i am from dixie. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #3

No, it just shouldn't count more than mine in a Blue state... Barack_America Feb 2016 #4

It actually counts less. The party rules reduce the delegations from states that don't vote Dem. Zynx Feb 2016 #6

Do the votes in South Carolina , Iowa and Nevada count. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #10

Yep, just not only those votes. Barack_America Feb 2016 #30

Alabama just moved to super Tuesday , stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #32

Me too, and I live in a Red state. Adrahil Feb 2016 #128

No. I always prefer that my vote count. Barack_America Feb 2016 #133

Then on that, we can agree. Adrahil Feb 2016 #136

Who's that argument? No one, except for Bernie Sanders supporters who are belittling Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #38

No you didn't dsc Feb 2016 #45

Yes I did. In every state that Obama won, it was HRC's supporters who belittled those wins, Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #111

Did you forget our conversation yesterday about "Bernie Sander's supporters"? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #53

Your lecturing and condescension won't work on me. My entire family is from the Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #82

but reading is so very, very hard, BA. kath Mar 2016 #140

No, your vote shouldn't count more than mine or anyone else's. Octafish Feb 2016 #9

when bernie fails to be elected it will be his fault no one else. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #11

What about Debbie Wasserman Schultz? Octafish Feb 2016 #31

I don't think you'll get further response from that poster... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #54

When they can't put into words why they support a particular position... Octafish Feb 2016 #65

Motivation? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #69

Agenda. Octafish Feb 2016 #76

Democrat Removal System will not be televised! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #91

That's a very simplistic view point but you are entitled to it. NWCorona Feb 2016 #46

One person, one vote. We are all created equal which many people, including Democrats have Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #16

South Carolina hade One person, one vote. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #19

Redistricting has negated much of that. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #26

See post #53.... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #55

I guess so.. but did you see how handsome Bill looks in that pic nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #18

That is a hell of a picture. Octafish Feb 2016 #67

Yes indeed. :) nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #68

That seems to be the Sanders supporters' claim. It only makes sense, since again, there are MORE Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #21

+1... SidDithers Feb 2016 #39

Their votes count in state and local elections. kiva Feb 2016 #63

And again, that stupid, fallacious (il)logic applies to other primary states that aren't reliably Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #110

OK... kiva Feb 2016 #116

Didn't mean to be insulting. Meant to point out the slave-owning mentality is what we're up against. Octafish Feb 2016 #71

you do know the Civil War was a few years back, don't you DrDan Feb 2016 #5

Missing your snarky point? Unless it is taking issue with the word Dixie. libdem4life Feb 2016 #14

Not black people. Geez! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #22

no problem with "Dixie" DrDan Feb 2016 #41

Just read it differently...sorry. libdem4life Feb 2016 #92

So why is the mass media constantly shoving the civil war in our faces since bush2 was appointed? Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #17

I guess you could ask them DrDan Feb 2016 #42

Simple observation points to their underlying objective, Divide And Conquer. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #44

That's what the tee vee said, too, yet racism and property rights trump civil and human rights. Octafish Feb 2016 #24

it's actually the black vote which is going to be consequential in those states bigtree Feb 2016 #12

Which is good. And shows where we need to do more work. Attracting ALL voters. Octafish Feb 2016 #72

That picture reinforces the notion that a small clique have choreographed our political "contests" GoneFishin Feb 2016 #13

Oligarchy...the best 1% money can buy. Knows no Red or Blue Party...it's the true Green Party... libdem4life Feb 2016 #20

Yep. It's about the money. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #27

And the backroom action this money empowers...and it's not for We, the People. libdem4life Feb 2016 #33

Amazing image. Here's another photo ALL people should see. Octafish Feb 2016 #73

There's a reason these states are early in the primary PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #15

Thanks so much!!! More Democratic voters per capita as well. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #23

I live in a very red county in Wisconsin. We gained some infamy during a state Supreme Court race PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #29

Here's an even bigger issue: REDISTRICTING! It's one reason why Democrats got more votes but Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #35

Oh yeah. That killed us here, too. I almost gave up on politics when Russ lost. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #36

Thank you. brer cat Feb 2016 #108

The OP would like NH to determine the nominee CorkySt.Clair Feb 2016 #50

How do you know? Octafish Feb 2016 #89

Love the openness and transparency currently taking place here. Nt NCTraveler Feb 2016 #25

Silly DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #28

Thanks! I'll stand with Ted's version of what it means to be a Democrat. Octafish Feb 2016 #34

TLDR. You are moving the goal posts. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #37

Criticism as self-criticism? Octafish Feb 2016 #40

You make interesting points. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #52

I'm saving that picture... SidDithers Feb 2016 #49

Said SidDithers of DU who finds the assassination of JFK a laughing matter. Octafish Feb 2016 #78

That's the Don Fulsom who thought Nixon was gay, right?... SidDithers Feb 2016 #79

The same Don Fulsom who teaches government at American University. Octafish Feb 2016 #81

So you promote Wayne Madsen... SidDithers Feb 2016 #87

Keep digging SidDithers of DU. Octafish Feb 2016 #88

OK... SidDithers Feb 2016 #90

Oops. zappaman Feb 2016 #93

Tag Team. Octafish Feb 2016 #99

I can see why you'd rather reply to me since Sid just proved you wrong. zappaman Feb 2016 #107

''Trolling is a art.'' -- SidDithers of DU to zappaman Octafish Feb 2016 #113

Lol! zappaman Feb 2016 #122

oops! one_voice Feb 2016 #95

Did you go to the link? Did you read the article? Tell the truth. Octafish Feb 2016 #103

Here's how it went: one_voice Feb 2016 #106

Heh tammywammy Feb 2016 #109

The gang's all here. Octafish Feb 2016 #115

Yes, threads in GDP tend to get seen by many posters, even those you dislike. tammywammy Feb 2016 #117

You have no idea who I like or don't like. Octafish Feb 2016 #118

"Tag team" isn't usually a term of endearment tammywammy Feb 2016 #120

Not quite the context, though. Octafish Feb 2016 #114

Yes, what is it called when you don't tell the truth, Octafish of DU? zappaman Feb 2016 #123

LOL! That's saying he's better than the media who helped lie America into war. Octafish Feb 2016 #97

boom! treestar Feb 2016 #98

Did you read the articles? Octafish Feb 2016 #104

I love me some SidDithers. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #124

I appreciate how he seems to be working to get me banned. Octafish Feb 2016 #125

Great OP! amborin Feb 2016 #43

Let the South vote... and then let's GET IT ON. AzDar Feb 2016 #48

So, you dug out a photo of Bill Clinton, Governor of Arkansas, MineralMan Feb 2016 #56

And here you are... whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #57

Yes, here I am. Pointing out deceptive MineralMan Feb 2016 #58

A bit scrambled? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #59

Dude...I replied to the OP about that photo, MineralMan Feb 2016 #61

Eh... maybe you want to review the order these posts whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #64

The guy who broke bread with that guy. Octafish Feb 2016 #84

I'm disappointed... that's the famous national governors shot... nothing new. Ellipsis Feb 2016 #60

Here's news for you: Those three men helped move America to the extreme right. Octafish Feb 2016 #83

I don't disagree with any of that. Ellipsis Mar 2016 #139

Yep: early Southern primaries = conservative momentum. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #62

Whenever I read something like John Lewis statement about jwirr Feb 2016 #74

Huh? The Democratic Party base in the South is Black, Gay, Latino, Union. McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #75

look at me I'm at the big kids table olddots Feb 2016 #77

Love... MrWendel Feb 2016 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #86

I can't wait for the primary to move from Dixie to states that vote for Democrats! Vote2016 Feb 2016 #94

The results may be very different, especially with an honest news media. Octafish Feb 2016 #119

So you believe that all people are equal except Southerners? yardwork Feb 2016 #96

I can see how you got that from what I wrote. Sorry. Octafish Feb 2016 #102

If it makes you feel better, Clinton will win MA and MN as well... brooklynite Feb 2016 #100

No, it doesn't. I understand what it means for my country. Octafish Feb 2016 #105

There it is. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #101

Funny how this was the road Obama took to the nomination, and there's no caterwauling about that Tarc Feb 2016 #121

Magnificant Octafish! monicaangela Feb 2016 #129

Horseshit! President Obama beat Hillary in SC, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Virginia, Mississippi, Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 #134

President Obama said he's really like a moderate Republican from the 1980s. Octafish Feb 2016 #135

Both, repeat, BOTH Clintons have been instrumental in moving the Democratic Party to the right! LongTomH Feb 2016 #137

DLC was like a Death Ray 2 Democracy Octafish Feb 2016 #138