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MADem

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40. People are individuals and I think most people don't see themselves as a "bloc" first and foremost
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

even as they realize they are part of group that is being courted. Who doesn't want their voice heard, their priorities recognized and pushed to the top of the list? I think there is the sense of that sort of power.

The right isn't our problem NOW, but they are pretty good at driving wedges if they stop and think about it, and adjust their message a tad. And they might do that if they're more interested in holding on to power than sticking to hard and fast principles. They'll "catapult the propaganda" sufficiently to rope in a few people who believe that they have their best interests at heart. I have old family friends in Houston who are decidedly UN-white and swirly, who have been voting for wingnuts for years. The only reason I can come up with is that they want to fit in at work, they buy the bullshit their boss tells them, and they have religious opposition to choice and marriage equality. You just can't talk to 'em about politics--they're completely voting against their interests yet they do it (or at least profess to--who knows--if they're secret liberals they won't tell us) over and over again.

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based on delegates count along with assumptions she will win new york and california JI7 Feb 2016 #1
Just like in 2008. It wasn't enough for her to win the nomination. reformist2 Feb 2016 #24
She wasn't in this position in 08, Obama kinda was. Who won then? -nt Happenstance24 Feb 2016 #27
Hillary won New York and California and Texas and Florida in 2008. Still lost to Obama. reformist2 Feb 2016 #64
Because Obama ran up the delegate total like she is doing now. -nt Happenstance24 Feb 2016 #77
She won't. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #25
She's not winning CA based on my polling GummyBearz Feb 2016 #44
I don't know about this specific question but braddy Feb 2016 #2
And 60%+ of the 120 million are repukes. PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #4
Not only are most southerners cons, BUT Democrats Hortensis Feb 2016 #6
Delegates are given based on total population PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #9
And rural votes count for more than urban, Hortensis Feb 2016 #11
That is not democratic PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #12
If I don't "see" you again, I'll know you're off to Hortensis Feb 2016 #15
Fail. PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #16
Disenfranchising African Americans as you are proposing is what's rbrnmw Feb 2016 #38
And they live in states that have kiva Feb 2016 #39
I mever insinuated anything like that. PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #71
Hmmm... it makes for a discussion of demarcations. I'll see what I get. But I like this, thanks WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #37
Confirmed. Thanks. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #42
Are those 2014 census data? Which states are included in each of your categories? n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #76
There is a certain amount of hypocrisy frustrated_lefty Feb 2016 #3
This. n/t ms liberty Feb 2016 #60
It's the math, AZ. The numbers. Hortensis Feb 2016 #5
Would a bunch of Americans let lying assholes tell them who to vote for? draa Feb 2016 #7
Super Tuesday yields about 20% of delegates, and it is arguably Bernie's PatrickforO Feb 2016 #8
Do you guys see where hyperpartisanship is taking you? Hortensis Feb 2016 #10
Charles Blow had something to say on this sort of attitude. MADem Feb 2016 #22
That is a good piece, thanks, MADem. Black voting Hortensis Feb 2016 #34
People are individuals and I think most people don't see themselves as a "bloc" first and foremost MADem Feb 2016 #40
As long as the tilt is toward feeling like players Hortensis Feb 2016 #52
I agree with that--and the tilt is towards the Democratic Party as the party of MADem Feb 2016 #62
Oh, I do! You can like and respect a lot of people, Hortensis Feb 2016 #63
You felt insulted? GummyBearz Feb 2016 #45
The poster you addressed expressed no such thing. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #49
Hortensis's Dictionary: hyperpartisanship (n) - Not supporting Hillary Clinton. Dealing in facts. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #55
Here...here.... Henhouse Feb 2016 #69
Going to be fun after that. Bernie does need a good showing in Massachusetts though. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #46
Because the sun belt is where the people are now (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #13
It will be very hard for Bernie to gain any momentum after Tuesday jmowreader Feb 2016 #14
Yeah they're full of rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #17
+1 stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #18
The only colors cared about are red and blue. PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #20
Idaho? rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #23
black votes matter. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #19
But they don't matter MORE. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #58
The race started with Iowa and New Hampshire mythology Feb 2016 #65
Like you would have said that in 2008... AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #68
I voted for obama both times. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #70
how about limiting to them to 3/5 of a vote - based on what I read last night, I am sure DrDan Feb 2016 #21
1. Math. 2. She's about to win everywhere else too. Renew Deal Feb 2016 #26
You'll always have New Hampshire...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #28
Half their Congressional delegation is Republican, these days! nt MADem Feb 2016 #41
Are southern states not part of the United States? GreydeeThos Feb 2016 #29
Some of those states think not. They're Repub states. Have been since Johnson and Civil Rights Leg. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #47
Do you advocate discounting Democrats who happen to live in red states? GreydeeThos Feb 2016 #75
No, I'm advocating that Southern States should not get to decide who is the Democratic nominee AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #67
You prefer a group of 15 Northeastern states that think like you GreydeeThos Feb 2016 #73
Bernie is done. bigwillq Feb 2016 #30
There's a reason these states are early in primary PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #31
All of these threads are ticking me off obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #48
I live in a very red county in Wisconsin. We gained some infamy during a state Supreme Court race PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #50
My state should go blue in November obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #57
We'll go blue, too. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #61
"Tell them who to vote for"? Momentum is important and this is livetohike Feb 2016 #32
I cannot... TNProfessor Feb 2016 #33
Exactly... AzDar Feb 2016 #35
HAHAHAHAHA!!! But sometimes the calendar makes it so WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #36
No one is telling anyone anything. You vote for whichever candidate you prefer. Beacool Feb 2016 #43
You can give up. Why should I give up before I even have a chance to vote. Todays_Illusion Feb 2016 #51
I take one look at the state of most red states and compare jwirr Feb 2016 #53
It's purely a matter of delegate count, really. MineralMan Feb 2016 #54
People listen to the media narrative TDale313 Feb 2016 #56
Especially taking a cue from South Carolina. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #59
The states we won't win are the states that should determine who wins the nomination. Karmadillo Feb 2016 #66
I don't like the framing of the question. noamnety Feb 2016 #72
That's not how it works BainsBane Feb 2016 #74
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