2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How can sane people really vote for a person [View all]Tortmaster
(382 posts)When he said he was going to have a positive campaign and went negative, that's just what all politicians do, which is not lying. It is just cheery hopefulness.
And during the debate about datagate when he claimed that the Clinton campaign accessed his data--even though he admitted he had no evidence of it--that wasn't a lie just a conspiracy theory, and conspiracy theories are not lies.
Same when he questioned whether the Iowa vote was "honest" immediately after that caucus. Conspiracy theories are not exactly lies.
And when you Google "false" and "Bernie Sanders" and "Politifact" and get a bunch of responses those aren't lies. Somebody at Politifact has called them lies but that doesn't make them lies. It might be that Senator Sanders misspoke or he was wrong, unintentionally. It has to be intentional to be a lie, right?
And when you give a false impression that's not exactly a lie either! For example, in the debates when he implies that he's the NRA's worst nightmare because he has a "D-" rating from them and voted against them that one time (assault weapons), but failed to mention that he voted FOR the NRA 15+ times (Brady Bill x 5; gun industry immunity x 2; guns on Amtrak; guns in National Parks; making it harder for the ATF to prosecute gun violations, etc), and he failed to mention that he believes that gun control is a State's Rights issue, or that he was endorsed by the NRA when he first came to Congress doesn't make him a liar!