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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I'm not on team blue just because I dislike the color red. [View all]mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)7. I think it's not just Hillary
The people who rabidly support her do so because she's the magic (D). Look at their attacks on Bernie and specifically how they indignantly say he's not a democrat. It seems to me that most people on this board support democratic ideals. Sanders supports those a lot more than Hillary, hence the huge divide between "camps." Also, a lot of us don't like government spying on us. To the people who have faith in the democratic party, they bash republicans who support government spying and absolutely loath anyone who shows a democrat doing it.
So a lot of their "arguments" are motivated reasoning. It's obvious, and it also makes it really hard for us to claim that democrats are better or more reasonable.
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I thought about it, but blah blah, both sides in this election cycle are fucked
snooper2
Mar 2016
#38
indeed -- at what point does excessive pragmatism kill any claims to principles?
stupidicus
Feb 2016
#12
Principles and facts should also tell you Bernie, or Hillary are the only alternative to fascism
JCMach1
Feb 2016
#16
Facts and principles do matter, and you have made a compelling case for that.
CaliforniaPeggy
Mar 2016
#25