2016 Postmortem

Buns_of_Fire

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113. We just need something to inspire us! So, in that vein...

Reply to Armstead (Reply #73)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:19 PM

Mar 2016

(Okay, maybe that wasn't the best choice. It still beats anything Franklin Graham has ever come up with.)

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A great critique of Clinton and the cheerleaders. [View all] SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 OP

Now that's a tough reality to swallow. RiverLover Mar 2016 #1

Yup LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #149

That's them alright!!! warrprayer Mar 2016 #179

The Clinton Class wants you to have less so they can have more Armstead Mar 2016 #2

Lowered Expectations........Mad TV Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #5

I will continue to call nonsense what it is firebrand80 Mar 2016 #3

Don't dare to dream anymore do you? Raster Mar 2016 #4

Thanks for proving my point nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #11

actually, I believe you proved my point. Raster Mar 2016 #12

I will. Bernie, not so much. nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #14

You will? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #135

I'd never believe it until I saw it LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #152

Excellent response... Thespian2 Mar 2016 #33

YES. :>) pangaia Mar 2016 #165

What Bernie is saying is imminently attainable! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #25

I wouldn't necessarily characterize something akin to the American Revolution ToxMarz Mar 2016 #36

My point is Bernie accomplishing his goals is much EASIER than the American Revolution! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #45

And by pointing out reality, I am not saying "No we can't" ToxMarz Mar 2016 #54

People with your mindset also insisted that marriage equality was unrealistic 'settle for civil Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #67

Bravo! You nailed it! tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #74

People with my mindset? That is your problem, you live and act based on your own imagined reality ToxMarz Mar 2016 #78

your problem lies with reality. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #138

yes- you are notadmblnd Mar 2016 #177

Although I disagree, I welcome reasoned debate.... markj757 Mar 2016 #58

The majority in his own party wants single payer. jeff47 Mar 2016 #92

Just admit you are happy or at least content with the status quo. Willing to give up your rhett o rick Mar 2016 #173

So any scrutiny is defeatism. treestar Mar 2016 #23

Dream all you wish. Just don't let your dreams overtake you when the makeup of the Trust Buster Mar 2016 #24

Hillary represents the Establishment in an anti-establishment year. Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #26

The makeup of the Supreme Court does not recognize if this is an anti-Establishment year. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #31

It will when Trump beats Hillary, she can't beat him! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #43

That's just an opinion without justification IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #46

Go big or go home! Bernie beats all three Republicans by wider margins than Hillary who Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #49

We haven't even watched one Presidential debate yet. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #57

There wasn't one Repig on that Benghazi "panel" hifiguy Mar 2016 #140

She looked presidential during those 10 withering hours and you know it. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #143

Dealing with a completely bogus controversy doesn't require a lot. hifiguy Mar 2016 #145

You miss the point. That woman who stood up to those fools for 10 straight hours and looking Trust Buster Mar 2016 #148

Yeah, about that. 5 to 10 IF Hillary is the POTUS, her SCOTUS choices will all..... Raster Mar 2016 #77

That whole beltanefauve Mar 2016 #134

I think the Big O was trolling the rethuglicans....just to see how far they wanna try.... Raster Mar 2016 #157

The impediments to Sanders' proposed policies are political Martin Eden Mar 2016 #72

So you are admitting that you are happy with nothing RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #15

I think I'm wasting my time here nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #19

What's the matter? RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #47

You are not wasting your time when you are telling it like it is. oasis Mar 2016 #59

oasis 2008: "Hillary said "talk is cheap" in reference to Mr. Obama. This is just another Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #68

worship at the altar of Hill and Bill Raster Mar 2016 #81

You question the level of my "discernment". Howzabout my numerous oasis Mar 2016 #91

Exactly right: I am 100% for free tuition and fees (paid for by taxes) alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #22

Your post is silly. Sanders has a lifetime rating of D- from the NRA. Gary 50 Mar 2016 #52

Maybe that's why Sanders is losing to Hillary to date. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #128

So Europe is exceptional? tazkcmo Mar 2016 #39

Oh, yeah!!!! mindem Mar 2016 #41

We don't believe your propaganda. If the first world countries can do it, we can, too. nt valerief Mar 2016 #55

Single payer is just pure fantasy. Bernie fans need to realize unicorns only exist in Canada, think Mar 2016 #56

Well, one thing is clear angrychair Mar 2016 #71

"No we can't!!!!" nt longship Mar 2016 #76

Consider first learning to accurately identify nonsense. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #79

Lots of really well informed and successful people The Traveler Mar 2016 #133

What is impractical? Additionally, why do you think we are not as good a Europe? Gore1FL Mar 2016 #144

Whatever else one can accuse the Third Way of, sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #161

The bridge on a violin has been compared to a bridge between heaven and earth. pangaia Mar 2016 #164

You choose to keep your feet grounded in quicksand. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #170

All that Sen Sanders promises is to fight for the People. Quite a difference from Clinton rhett o rick Mar 2016 #171

The truth! Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #6

That is the message I'm seeing too Bettie Mar 2016 #7

the mask is coming off Locrian Mar 2016 #8

Classic. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #9

Results of Jury grossproffit Mar 2016 #21

Oh, the bitter irony. On a thread that slanders Clinton and her followers... Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #48

What country do we live in? SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 #90

Exactly. I complain about an alert, and you tell me to move out of the country. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #111

What is it with Authoritarians and comprehension? SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 #115

nice cut and paste. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #116

Thank you! SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 #124

A Sad Truth. Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #10

"And now I see with eye serene; The very pulse of the machine." VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #13

Fuck yeah! Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #50

Thank you for providing the corporate viewpoint. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #82

LOL! You think the bottom-feeding knuckledragging Freepers represent corporate America? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #108

Nice work: straw man AND non-sequitur. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #130

Top Secret Octafish Mar 2016 #16

She was paid very well to spread that message. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author bvf Mar 2016 #18

Hillary has put out far more policy than Bernie has. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #20

And most of her policy sucks! It stinks on ice! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #29

Yeah Im sure you really read any of them. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #37

Few objective people believe any of it. Kall Mar 2016 #122

How about that. bvf Mar 2016 #40

Her vote was justified IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #62

Right-wing bullshit... freebrew Mar 2016 #84

+1000. "voted to authorize force if necessary" Fla Dem Mar 2016 #87

"The Democrats that voted for this authorization bvf Mar 2016 #89

Long list of "fucking idiots" including Joe Biden, Tom Harkin, John Kerry etc. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #98

That *is* quite a list, ain't it though? bvf Mar 2016 #99

Your snark gave me a real good laugh this morning. Hope you're still feeling snarky tomorrow. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #100

So, what is your stance on Zell Miller? bvf Mar 2016 #102

You pick one a-hole Dem senator from that list and ask me an asinine question. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #103

What makes him more of an asshole bvf Mar 2016 #106

Tellingly, some of the best Dems in the Senate voted "no" Herman4747 Mar 2016 #159

...and THAT is why Hillary bought full page ads in every major newspaper.. bvar22 Mar 2016 #166

Really? EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #88

Exactly. bvf Mar 2016 #95

You are not being fair. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #105

Ask any member of a family bvf Mar 2016 #107

I believe that the vast majority of Americans would have voted as Hillary did. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #121

No No No Rilgin Mar 2016 #125

Afghanistan war was and is half understandable at best, maybe mrdmk Mar 2016 #158

Agreed Rilgin Mar 2016 #160

That is about it! Thank you for your response mrdmk Mar 2016 #162

Then you would presumably be just as happy bvf Mar 2016 #151

It's not what the "vast majority of Americans (sic) would do" SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 #155

He is being very fair. Rilgin Mar 2016 #119

Please read my recent post #121 especially the second paragraph concerning Sanders. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #123

A pointer to pure straw. Gee, how nice! bvf Mar 2016 #168

There is no reason to believe anything Hillary says. No reason at all. n/t djean111 Mar 2016 #53

+1 n/t ejbr Mar 2016 #60

No, she really hasn't. jeff47 Mar 2016 #97

Beautifully said pdsimdars Mar 2016 #27

Not correct. We are pragmatists. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #63

Keep up the fight! SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 #104

I thought every intelligent person Thespian2 Mar 2016 #28

Huge K&R blackspade Mar 2016 #30

What a load of crap 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #32

That +++ Jitter65 Mar 2016 #34

+1 Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #51

Crap sums it up nicely. great white snark Mar 2016 #61

That "steady progress" of sliding down the slope since the mid '70s? SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 #93

How will she? jeff47 Mar 2016 #94

I guess the message is: expect nothing and you won't be disappointed. Vinca Mar 2016 #35

Allow a 7-2 Right leaning Supreme Court and you'll lose everything. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #64

Like Clinton won't "pragmatize" to appease the right? SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 #80

The Democrats are becoming the party of nihilism Armstead Mar 2016 #73

We just need something to inspire us! So, in that vein... Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #113

That wou,d make a great campaign ad - "My name is Hillary Clinton and I approve this message" Armstead Mar 2016 #114

The people who have been "brought to heel" are the entire Democratic Party. n/t drokhole Mar 2016 #38

+1 mountain grammy Mar 2016 #66

K and R bigwillq Mar 2016 #42

in a sense i don't disagree with the need to reduce expectations tk2kewl Mar 2016 #44

Wages have remained flat as economic inequality grows. Why is that? Good post. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #65

Sanders and Clinton agree on almost everything Johnny2X2X Mar 2016 #69

That's only because bvf Mar 2016 #101

No, when you look at what they do versus what they say BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #150

K&R..... daleanime Mar 2016 #70

Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President. George II Mar 2016 #75

You say that as if it were a good thing Android3.14 Mar 2016 #85

Most democrats disagree: George II Mar 2016 #86

It's an excellent thing ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #110

LOL, ok. nt Logical Mar 2016 #172

Manipulation at it's finest. SoapBox Mar 2016 #83

"The New Normal" is what Wall Street and Center Right Economists KoKo Mar 2016 #96

"Hillary is Wall Street's ambassador" is right on the money!! Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #127

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #109

A cold hard slap of reality SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #112

Like a wet fish! Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #131

A vote for Hillary is a vote for the oligarchs, a vote for an America without a future. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #117

Brilliant! zentrum Mar 2016 #118

Took me until I reached middle age... NCTraveler Mar 2016 #120

See? All your hard work paid off! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2016 #142

It's amazing kind of you to notice. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #146

Which is why I will never vote for Hillary. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #126

Bingo! monicaangela Mar 2016 #129

dude. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #132

Join Hillary in a fight for stagnation! Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #136

Or else Goldman may stop leaving a few crumbs behind hifiguy Mar 2016 #141

Bingo! AlbertCat Mar 2016 #137

K/R for the undisputed TRUTH. hifiguy Mar 2016 #139

I don't hear this message Dem2 Mar 2016 #147

This is the entire gist of her campaign CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #153

Truth. AzDar Mar 2016 #154

See: Fed Chairman Paul Volcker. Ikonoklast Mar 2016 #156

K&R. nt Duval Mar 2016 #163

Spot on. Phlem Mar 2016 #167

Republican Operatives Try to Help Bernie Sanders: "We'll win every state if Bernie's their nominee." Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #169

I cannot imagine any Hill fan comprehending Corey Robin senz Mar 2016 #174

photo jie305 Mar 2016 #180

How many progressive ideals are we supposed to discard Maedhros Mar 2016 #175

Clinton doesn't just want to keep you from having a pony, she whereisjustice Mar 2016 #176

In a nutshell warrprayer Mar 2016 #178

Another fact free accusation Buzz cook Mar 2016 #181

https://www.jacobinmag.com/author/corey-robin/ SkyIsGrey Mar 2016 #182

To quote another Sanders supporter Buzz cook Mar 2016 #184

The very embodiment of this critique... Ino Mar 2016 #183