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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Mountains of evidence pointing to serious, deliberate crimes [View all]Gothmog
(174,056 posts)232. Yep, the "Top Secret" Emails Were All About Drones
The so-called "Top Secret" emails were all about NYT stories concerning drones and were in the public domain. There is no basis for an indictment for talking about articles published in the NYT http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/02/yep-top-secret-emails-were-all-about-drones
So just what was in those "top secret" emails that Hillary Clinton received on her personal email server while she was Secretary of State? The New York Times reports what everyone has already figured out: they were about drones. What's more, the question of whether they contain anything that's actually sensitive is mostly just a spat between CIA and State:
The whole piece is worth reading for the details, but the bottom line is pretty simple: there's no there there. At most, there's a minuscule amount of slightly questionable reporting that was sent via emaila common practice since pretty much forever. Mostly, though, it seems to be a case of the CIA trying to bully State and win some kind of obscure pissing contest over whether they're sufficiently careful with the nation's secrets.
Some of the nations intelligence agencies raised alarms last spring as the State Department began releasing emails from Hillary Clintons private server, saying that a number of the messages contained information that should be classified top secret.
The diplomats saw things differently and pushed back at the spies. In the months since, a battle has played out between the State Department and the intelligence agencies.
....Several officials said that at least one of the emails contained oblique references to C.I.A. operatives. One of the messages has been given a designation of HCS-O indicating that the information was derived from human intelligence sources...The government officials said that discussions in an email thread about a New York Times article the officials did not say which article contained sensitive information about the intelligence surrounding the C.I.A.s drone activities, particularly in Pakistan.
The whole piece is worth reading for the details, but the bottom line is pretty simple: there's no there there. At most, there's a minuscule amount of slightly questionable reporting that was sent via emaila common practice since pretty much forever. Mostly, though, it seems to be a case of the CIA trying to bully State and win some kind of obscure pissing contest over whether they're sufficiently careful with the nation's secrets.
It is not against the law to read and talk about articles in NYT. Your wait for an indictment may be a very long one.
Heck even Trump has given up an indictment
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Where was the FBI when Karl Rove deleted all those emails from a non-gov server?
Perseus
Mar 2016
#67
ANALYSIS: No, Hillary Clinton Did Not Commit a Crime ... at Least Based on What We Know Today
Gothmog
Mar 2016
#227
The operational intelligence are reports published in the Washington Post or NYT
Gothmog
Mar 2016
#248
I still think you are incorrect. The ones I read about are not related to drones.
revbones
Mar 2016
#249
Comparing law with the facts of the case is how you decide something is illegal, not by "screaming."
merrily
Mar 2016
#235
Find reality quickly please. Super Tuesday is today and results will overwhelmingly favor Clinton.
brush
Mar 2016
#147
Well lookie here, a Camp Sanders fellow who is unable to deal with opposing p.o.v.s
Tarc
Mar 2016
#65
This is something that should at least be taken into account if you want a Democrat in the WH.
Dustlawyer
Mar 2016
#60
Yep. I was taken n by John Edwards' populism, because I worried that Obama was too
tblue37
Mar 2016
#88
What about all the dirty tricks against Sanders carried out by Debbie Schultz of DNC to
Cal33
Mar 2016
#91
That's kinda funny since Clinton joined the fucking right wing when we needed her the most.
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#259
From the author who brought you: "Obama´s Shameful Refusal to Attend Scalia´s Funeral"
brooklynite
Mar 2016
#4
Attack the messenger, ignore the facts. Just another day for Hillary supporters. n/t
revbones
Mar 2016
#9
All these last-second attacks by RealClear, HuffPost, Newsmax, Goodman, Greenwald, etc...
randome
Mar 2016
#7
Again - Attack the messenger, ignore the facts. Just another day for Hillary supporters. n/t
revbones
Mar 2016
#10
Well you said it "Other than the fact that the FBI is coordinating the investigation"
revbones
Mar 2016
#15
No, not DU, but HuffPost, NewsMax, Intercept, etc. are all vying for eyeballs right now.
randome
Mar 2016
#201
Which allegation is half-baked and politically motivated? That she is under investigation?
Gary 50
Mar 2016
#131
Good response. Rather than reply or even acknowledge facts, just insinuate I'm a right-wing shill.
revbones
Mar 2016
#98
And that description being someone that has an opposing viewpoint to you. Nice.
revbones
Mar 2016
#107
Nah, the low post count at this late stage in the primary process and the repug talking points
brush
Mar 2016
#124
How many people do you think it should take to review hundreds of thousands of emails?
randome
Mar 2016
#100
More like 150 FBI agents, over 50 state department employees along with the people at the DOJ
NWCorona
Mar 2016
#39
Perhaps, but the FBI is not a wingnut organization that is part of the GOP.
Major Hogwash
Mar 2016
#186
I am sure all of the Hillary supporters blowing this off as not serious held security clearances
Matt_in_STL
Mar 2016
#31
I work in security for a large regional bank, and I handle data loss/theft incidents.
Maedhros
Mar 2016
#273
I trust my own experience with the FBI and other Federal law enforcement agencies
Maedhros
Mar 2016
#279
DWS is being protective of Florida with this but, yeah, it does not reflect well on her or the DNC.
randome
Mar 2016
#51
There is enough dirt associated with the Clinton Foundation alone to sink her battleship
yourpaljoey
Mar 2016
#47
Same strategy the Koch brothers use - quite a bit of good to distract from the bad.
TryLogic
Mar 2016
#132
I am so ready to say "I told you so." That's the real no-brainer around here.
highprincipleswork
Mar 2016
#64
My parents said the same thing with the investigations of Nixon. Nothing would change their mind.
LiberalArkie
Mar 2016
#72
As much as I really don't care for HRC, it's so pathetic for so-called Democrats to be going after
Liberal_Stalwart71
Mar 2016
#74
Dirty Deeds (Not) Done Dirt Cheap... Wonder if Angus and the Boys would let the Campaign use it?
AzDar
Mar 2016
#94
Sure, and Michelle Obama's"Whitey Speech" @ Rev. Wright's church is still there!...
LW1977
Mar 2016
#109
I think that the Bernie supporters should apply for entrance into the Republican Party at this point
Trust Buster
Mar 2016
#159
Aside from the facts cited in the OP, wasn't part of Hillary's job to decide what was classified?
merrily
Mar 2016
#160
Clinton's excuse for mixing personal and official SoS emails is totally bogus...
tex-wyo-dem
Mar 2016
#170
Unless...a stray neutron bomb 'accidentally' destroys all FBI agents worldwide.
randome
Mar 2016
#189
Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President.
George II
Mar 2016
#243
The FBI has mountains of evidence pointing to serious, deliberate crimes? Really?
Nitram
Mar 2016
#245
The reason you KNOW it's a real scandal is because the repigs are not overplaying it /
FlatBaroque
Mar 2016
#246