2016 Postmortem

lunamagica

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165. She wo 70% of the Latino vote. Didn't you know that?

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What we learned tonight.....Hillary can't win big outside of the confederacy. [View all] virtualobserver Mar 2016 OP

K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #1

Hillary will be the Democratic Candidate for President. FarPoint Mar 2016 #2

she will need to actually prove that virtualobserver Mar 2016 #6

really? Hiraeth Mar 2016 #8

If the only states she can score solid wins in... HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #17

that's true grasswire Mar 2016 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2016 #61

And will lose in the general election. basselope Mar 2016 #53

Just look at total votes in states like Georgia greymattermom Mar 2016 #83

I feel Hillary can empower the Democratic Party to a landslide. FarPoint Mar 2016 #94

well, not according to all the polls for months now pdsimdars Mar 2016 #95

Oh..you have little faith. FarPoint Mar 2016 #99

Hillary has no charisma Press Virginia Mar 2016 #126

Hillary Clinton has been a dedicated, committed Democrat. FarPoint Mar 2016 #130

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Yeah, Ooookay Press Virginia Mar 2016 #132

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #179

Well, since you asserted it, it's clearly true. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #77

yep basselope Mar 2016 #140

thank you for crystal ball premonition iAZZZo Mar 2016 #81

Maddi, just give her the damn dollar, already! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #106

The rest of us would like to vote, please. Thank you. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #145

No she wont but keep dreaming. She CANNOT win outside of those states where sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #169

There's a difference between "hasn't" and "can't". winter is coming Mar 2016 #3

+1 VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #4

I'm not assuming...I'm just looking at the results. She has to prove that she can. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #10

I thought Bernie was supposed to drive turnout to historic levels redstateblues Mar 2016 #5

it will take time....and he has time....by the time he visits all 50 states....he will achieve it. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #13

He won by respectable margins in Colorado, Minnesota, Oklahoma and above all in the state JDPriestly Mar 2016 #62

She only won Massachusetts by 1 point. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #79

She only won Mass by one point... Svafa Mar 2016 #150

Ouch! 2% pdsimdars Mar 2016 #96

No one has ever said that Bernie would drive turnout to historic levels. Dawgs Mar 2016 #183

Is the confederacy back! Agschmid Mar 2016 #7

Hey, John Lewis used that term today on TV. grasswire Mar 2016 #33

It is back, actually in a real sense virtualobserver Mar 2016 #67

Very good point pdsimdars Mar 2016 #98

She's strongest in states that Dems have no chance of winning. reformist2 Mar 2016 #9

538 is predicting HC wins in MI, IL, OH, NC, & FL. And these are purple-to-blue states. spooky3 Mar 2016 #11

528 is so overrated. Bernie needs to win Ohio - and he will. reformist2 Mar 2016 #14

538 was dead on in other recent predictions. I guess we'll soon see whether it is right spooky3 Mar 2016 #19

538 completely missed Oklahoma. w4rma Mar 2016 #56

No, it didn't. It gave her only a 51% chance of winning. spooky3 Mar 2016 #65

It wasn't 51% until Super Tuesday. w4rma Mar 2016 #93

nicely played . . . .. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #100

And his win was still outside their MoE. jeff47 Mar 2016 #153

So going 14 for 15 on the Democratic side mythology Mar 2016 #131

NC and FL are confederate states , although I give Bernie a shot at NC. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #20

I would put my money on 538 for them. spooky3 Mar 2016 #23

that can change virtualobserver Mar 2016 #34

Of course it can. But it's my money. spooky3 Mar 2016 #66

She can't win a GE in the confederacy. Downwinder Mar 2016 #12

She can if all of us vote for her. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #163

She does have an issue with actual Blue states thus far... Barack_America Mar 2016 #15

Didn't she just win Massachusetts? spooky3 Mar 2016 #25

By 1.8% and dropping. Care to look at Bernie's margins in other Blue states? Barack_America Mar 2016 #30

Facts NWCorona Mar 2016 #37

All of the states he won had much larger non-Latino white populations than average. spooky3 Mar 2016 #48

Like she did in 2008 but this one is close nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #60

American Samoa, too! Who knew it was part of the Confederacy? Tanuki Mar 2016 #104

You know that a state only counts BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #116

In so many words, that's what she's saying. consciouslocs Mar 2016 #129

Before it was Eko Mar 2016 #16

Narrow victories won't clinch the nomination...this will drag out.... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #26

If I recall correctly, in 2008 Clinton had pretty big wins in New York and California, but Obama had onenote Mar 2016 #18

Really? A Democrat had no problem winning CA and NY....what a shocker! virtualobserver Mar 2016 #21

Exactly. So why do folks think that the results in the primaries foretell ]the result in the GE. onenote Mar 2016 #68

they aren't saying that the results foretell the result, they are just saying that Democrats can't.. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #71

California is Bernie's Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #147

Just like Obama in '08 theboss Mar 2016 #22

Because DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #24

but Benghazi! Emails! spooky3 Mar 2016 #27

Compared to Condi Rice and Colin Powell... FarPoint Mar 2016 #135

Plenty of time to change that virtualobserver Mar 2016 #31

Yes, because he has so much momentum from his resounding Super Tuesday victory. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #35

He does....4 solid wins and a stalemate. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #39

Not all states are the same... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #42

four is enough virtualobserver Mar 2016 #44

K&R warrprayer Mar 2016 #28

You go! stevil Mar 2016 #32

I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation virtualobserver Mar 2016 #36

Keep it up stevil Mar 2016 #59

Here have a gif ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #38

I love it. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #45

... ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #47

Is she running for the President of the CSA? thereismore Mar 2016 #40

She is almost ready to take the oath of office. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #43

LOL, nice framing. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2016 #41

Every time a Sanders voter says "Confederacy" Codeine Mar 2016 #46

I used the word "Confederacy" because it is a coalition of conservative white voters.... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #54

Wait? The confederacy was a coalition of African Americans and their oppressors? onenote Mar 2016 #69

I'm speaking about a voting "confederacy" unique to the southern states virtualobserver Mar 2016 #70

You are mistaken. The "conservative white votes" are going to Trump and Cruz. Clinton is Tanuki Mar 2016 #103

I live in the south. I know Clinton voters. I got my "odd notion" by the experience of living here. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #108

I live in Tennessee. I know the difference between a conservative and a liberal. I know Tanuki Mar 2016 #113

I'm not talking about RW conservatives, I'm talking about conservative Democrats. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #115

Whatever consciouslocs Mar 2016 #88

It isn't an organized coalition virtualobserver Mar 2016 #139

IL, MI, OH, NY, NJ, MD, PA, CA and Washington DC. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #49

we will see virtualobserver Mar 2016 #50

She's ahead in the polls in each one of those states and predicted to win them by the 538. Beacool Mar 2016 #63

Perhaps it's just wishful thinking run amok... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #84

Yeah, that was my point too. Beacool Mar 2016 #178

What we learned tonight...Sanders can't get the minority vote. lunamagica Mar 2016 #51

So you are saying that Bernie is so horrible that minority voters would rather have Trump? virtualobserver Mar 2016 #55

What I'm saying is that minorities will give Hillary the win both in the primaries and the GE lunamagica Mar 2016 #57

I guess we'll find out virtualobserver Mar 2016 #58

I just wonder pdsimdars Mar 2016 #101

Polls? Last night's "poll" proved that Sanders can't get the minitiy vote lunamagica Mar 2016 #112

Are the minorities in South Carolian, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama all going to move to Ohio? Dawgs Mar 2016 #184

are you saying Hillary is so terrible that young white "progressive" voters would rather have Trump? onenote Mar 2016 #72

No, I'm not.... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #74

so you're saying that if Bernie is the candidate minorities won't vote or will vote Republican? azurnoir Mar 2016 #73

No, what I'm saying is that minorities will take Hillary to victory both in the primaries and the GE lunamagica Mar 2016 #111

It takes a village azurnoir Mar 2016 #141

So you're saying that if HRC is the candidate progressives won't vote or will vote Republican? 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #121

You do know that the "minority vote" Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #149

How could I forget? She won 70% of the Latino vote last night lunamagica Mar 2016 #164

2008 is not 2016 Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #170

WHAT? She WON the Latino vote by 70% LAST NIGHT. March 1, 2016 lunamagica Mar 2016 #171

One more time. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #172

OK, so your friends wont vote for her. She has won the Latino vote in seven states. How is that lunamagica Mar 2016 #173

We'll see how she does out West. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #174

Because Southern blacks are exactly the same as every other minority group. jeff47 Mar 2016 #154

She wo 70% of the Latino vote. Didn't you know that? lunamagica Mar 2016 #165

And Sanders crushed her with the black vote in VT and NH jeff47 Mar 2016 #167

His home state and neighboring state? GMAB lunamagica Mar 2016 #168

so the black people who actually know Bernie, like him. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #182

they always find a way to dismiss anything positive about Bernie virtualobserver Mar 2016 #181

We stand in the presence of greatness. Half-Century Man Mar 2016 #52

What we learned tonight is that Hillary will be the nominee. Beacool Mar 2016 #64

You go girl, keep the dream alive pdsimdars Mar 2016 #102

Dream? Beacool Mar 2016 #176

Bernie won 4 states by double digits, 3 of them by 19 points...so we learned no such thing. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #109

You miss the point completely hack89 Mar 2016 #155

and Bernie will get more delegates in future primaries virtualobserver Mar 2016 #157

But not more that Hillary hack89 Mar 2016 #158

you imagine that he doesn't.... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #160

I can read the polls. I can also see how different demographics are voting hack89 Mar 2016 #161

then you should have nothing to worry about virtualobserver Mar 2016 #162

That's true. Haven't been concerned since Nevada. Nt hack89 Mar 2016 #166

Well, then you missed the point of the lesson. Beacool Mar 2016 #177

I did not miss the point, I considered it invalid. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #180

negatives fierywoman Mar 2016 #75

You should probably look at African-American populations in the South vs other primary states so far Spider Jerusalem Mar 2016 #76

Yes consciouslocs Mar 2016 #92

I'm not convinced that results in the north will be the same virtualobserver Mar 2016 #137

Uh, no. jeff47 Mar 2016 #156

I'm addresssing the "Confederacy" idiocy Spider Jerusalem Mar 2016 #185

Hills is the second place nominee of Dixieland, the Repubs will squash her here aspirant Mar 2016 #78

Agreed. SoapBox Mar 2016 #80

This is incredable news, Rincewind Mar 2016 #82

OOOOOO! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #124

Or Nevada! (Nt) Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #159

K&R: she will lose. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #85

Turn out was lower than in 2008 nt Buzz cook Mar 2016 #86

You call her black support in the south "the confederacy"? Onlooker Mar 2016 #87

Not Really the vibe I'm getting from SEN Sanders, but... consciouslocs Mar 2016 #90

no, I'm talking about her combination of black support along with conservative white support virtualobserver Mar 2016 #136

What I learned tonight from this thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #89

The south is not under the bus....it is simply Hillary's firewall....but there are 50 states. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #119

Haaaaaaa shenmue Mar 2016 #91

Another point, Bernie keeps rising in the polls as Hillary slowly declines. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #97

there is truth in your words virtualobserver Mar 2016 #110

What we learned last night: sufrommich Mar 2016 #105

oklahoma and colorado are whiter, but not white as the driven snow virtualobserver Mar 2016 #138

Another attempt to minimize the value of the votes of POC. NT Adrahil Mar 2016 #107

Not at all....Hillary would be toast without votes of POC. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #117

Simply put, all things considered, we're toast if Clinton is nominated. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #114

I agree.....and the race with Trump would drive Hilary's negatives in the polls even higher virtualobserver Mar 2016 #118

What will be the "lesson" when she wins Michigan, Illinois, New Jersey, New York? NT Adrahil Mar 2016 #120

We will see how those states actually turn out virtualobserver Mar 2016 #122

Yes we shall.... Adrahil Mar 2016 #123

yeah plus they cheated in MA Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #125

par for the course for Bill Clinton....no one knows more about cheatin' than that guy. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #127

one ome despicable attempt to marginalize what is essentially a base of black voters bigtree Mar 2016 #128

not at all......I'm just showing the flip side of the equation virtualobserver Mar 2016 #134

I see that too. I think the race will pick up for Sanders here on out. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #133

Which non-confederacy States will she lose in the next two weeks? brooklynite Mar 2016 #142

perhaps none of them, perhaps all of them. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #144

I find "anything can happen" a fairly lightweight answer... brooklynite Mar 2016 #148

Bernie has to make the case in those states virtualobserver Mar 2016 #151

And Bernie still can't win minority votes only white voters like him book_worm Mar 2016 #143

he has won minority votes in every state, just not as many as Hillary virtualobserver Mar 2016 #146

platitudes Protalker Mar 2016 #152

K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #175