2016 Postmortem

Hoyt

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44. Most jobs in this country can't be outsourced easily. I mean, heck, we could outsource the military,

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:11 PM

Mar 2016

Congress, let China collect trash, Russia produce bourbon, perform most medical exams over the internet, etc. But, that's not likely to happen.

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Sanders calls Clinton�s record on trade a �disaster� [View all] Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 OP

Truth (nt) bigwillq Mar 2016 #1

Mrs. Clinton's record on just about everything has been a disaster. nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #2

Well, there is that...! peacebird Mar 2016 #4

Perfect! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #63

! bigwillq Mar 2016 #6

Well, someone has to take the tough moral stands on behalf of the planet and its people. merrily Mar 2016 #10

Yooge plus one! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #32

Truth!! Lorien Mar 2016 #111

Indeed! PWPippin Mar 2016 #117

She supports more H1B visas and outsourcing as well. She is a terrible candidate for working people. peacebird Mar 2016 #3

I'm glad at least many of us agree with this Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #56

Showing that there are "low information" voters on both sides of the aisle pdsimdars Mar 2016 #65

and they wonder why she's not liked. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #89

Just saying s_ _ t doesn't make it so. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #5

who do you think is just saying sh*t? tk2kewl Mar 2016 #8

It's so because it's so. Saying it is ony pointing it out. merrily Mar 2016 #12

But when people can't say sh-t in response, Kall Mar 2016 #48

You are free to talk shit as long as you want to. It is easier to tell the truth. Vincardog Mar 2016 #101

as are her intentions on trade tk2kewl Mar 2016 #7

It's true. There's no doubt she will support TPP Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #57

True that! elljay Mar 2016 #115

LOL this guys talking about NAFTA....in 2016. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #9

When did NAFTA expire? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #13

As soon as TPP passes, which is a renegotiation of NAFTA. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #16

Since NAFTA was bad how does TPP make it better? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #18

Look it up. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #19

What I've looked up tells me the TPP is a disaster for workers here and abroad as well as Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #22

Then you don't understand what you are reading. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #99

Then you don't understand what you are reading. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #119

Psssstttt....There's a bridge in Brooklyn I hear is for sale Armstead Mar 2016 #23

I have. It's worse. jeff47 Mar 2016 #27

Here: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #40

My prediction is: chapdrum Mar 2016 #88

JaneyVee...show us exactly where TPP... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #30

Here: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #37

You must not have noticed Kall Mar 2016 #50

Thanks for the link... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #93

JaneyVee; do you realize who WROTE the TPP, and who benefits from it? Lorien Mar 2016 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author pdsimdars Mar 2016 #70

and they likely get paid for it, too! nt grasswire Mar 2016 #102

insane eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #31

Please elaborate that point... Kensan Mar 2016 #36

Plus elljay Mar 2016 #116

Sure - that's why the entire Labor movement opposes it bread_and_roses Mar 2016 #45

It is NAFTA, on steroids. phazed0 Mar 2016 #49

Bookmarking for Post #49 Kittycat Mar 2016 #100

You and I have a different definition of "better" pdsimdars Mar 2016 #67

JaneyVee puts full faith in false context. Check desmiller Mar 2016 #103

And TPP is way worse for working people than nafta. TPP is nafta on steroids. Bad for us, good for Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author pdsimdars Mar 2016 #72

Thanks for the heads up, pdsimdars... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #73

which one?? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #106

And absolutely devestating to the environment Lorien Mar 2016 #113

It will create a global set of corporate oligarchical kingdoms to take rule over the entire earth, Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #121

Hey, your smugness pdsimdars Mar 2016 #66

CLINTON's TRADE RECORD HAS NOT BEEN A DISASTER! Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #11

Bingo! Shadowflash Mar 2016 #41

+1,000! RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #43

Truer words never spoken. So sad. BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #110

This exactly Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #58

Exactly, but as I am never going to be a billionaire I think her trade recprd sux peacebird Mar 2016 #104

Including today's endorsement by the United Farm Workers, the following unions have endorsed Hoyt Mar 2016 #14

"I know, the union leadership is not the members, but they do get elected by them" Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #20

Betcha they do. Hoyt Mar 2016 #21

We'll see. Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #24

Actually the vast majority of jobs won't be adversely impacted, and it's questionable Hoyt Mar 2016 #25

So as a supporter of TPP DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #34

I think it is a mistake to just outright stand against trade agreements. The jobs you Hoyt Mar 2016 #38

So you view labor as a commodity, just another cost. DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #46

No, that is not what I said. I don't view people who don't work as a commodity either and Hoyt Mar 2016 #59

So you're for exploiting workers do you can buy a cheap recliner? DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #81

Not exploiting anyone. Nor am I a Nationalist who thinks Americans are the only ones who matter Hoyt Mar 2016 #86

Low wages = cheap crap for you = a better world DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #96

Korean, Japanese, etc., products put most of ours to shame. Hoyt Mar 2016 #98

The same claim was made about NAFTA Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #47

And paraphrasing Krugman -- who was thrown under the bus -- lots of knowledgeable people blame NAFTA Hoyt Mar 2016 #60

Got that backwards dude pdsimdars Mar 2016 #79

Might not hurt the unions cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #68

Not if you look past 2016. Even then, the negative impact will be small. This is about Hoyt Mar 2016 #69

Most of those jobs can't be outsourced. GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #39

Most jobs in this country can't be outsourced easily. I mean, heck, we could outsource the military, Hoyt Mar 2016 #44

That is the way it was with EVERY union that asked its members pdsimdars Mar 2016 #80

The United Farm Workers was founded in 1962 by Cesar E. Chavez and Dolores Huerta � a strong Clinton wendylaroux Mar 2016 #53

Yes, and Sanders' supporters threw Huerta under the bus a few weeks ago. Hoyt Mar 2016 #62

why? nt wendylaroux Mar 2016 #64

It matters a LOT pdsimdars Mar 2016 #77

OK, so you don't like Delores Huerta and similar leaders because they haven't endorsed Sanders. Hoyt Mar 2016 #83

Good luck!!!! Arizona Roadrunner Mar 2016 #120

Ayup. AzDar Mar 2016 #15

Well she was both right and wrong on NAFTA SheenaR Mar 2016 #17

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #26

Yup... SoapBox Mar 2016 #28

Foreign policy (of which trade is a component) has been abysmal. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #29

Big K & R! jalan48 Mar 2016 #33

Clinton's trade policy has been horrible for American workers. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #35

Wait a minute, how can that be? BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #42

I think calling the TPP the gold standard should disqualify her, but then I'm a Liberal Dem against Cavallo Mar 2016 #51

That was 45 times she called it the gold standard pdsimdars Mar 2016 #84

Seriously! She said that 45 times? Cavallo Mar 2016 #94

And then lied about what she said elljay Mar 2016 #118

Message to Bernie . . . Gamecock Lefty Mar 2016 #52

Bernie has as much right to be a Democrat cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #71

Seriously? why wouldn't you want someone liberal in the party? Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #74

Yor no lefty!!!!!!!!! Pauldg47 Mar 2016 #76

If he does he takes a lot of voters with him. Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #97

Bernie is right. The clintons are as bad as republicans on trade Don Draper Mar 2016 #55

TRUTH cleans the soul! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #61

Clinton's trade record IS a disaster, and her recent touting of the TPP prior to PatrickforO Mar 2016 #75

Absolutely true senz Mar 2016 #78

Sanders is right. Clinton's trade policies are disastrous for ordinary Americans. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #82

A point I haven't seen pdsimdars Mar 2016 #85

So then, what is Sanders' "record on trade", specifically? George II Mar 2016 #87

He opposed NAFTA, WTO, Chinese trade deal, TPP, etc. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #91

That's not a record "on" trade, its a record against trade. George II Mar 2016 #107

It's a record of defending American jobs. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #108

a record against BAD TRADE AGREEMENTS Armstead Mar 2016 #123

He has an amazing record on trade! Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #92

I am so glad work was cancelled and I got to go to this U of M Dem Mar 2016 #90

Yeah, I call Bullshit on Bernie's comments MaggieD Mar 2016 #95

Lol, she is sticking with her lie in the video you post. Vattel Mar 2016 #105

K&R. This is the key to Michigan. Barack_America Mar 2016 #109

I guess so! Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #124

Hammer this point Babel_17 Mar 2016 #114

This is our strongest issue IMO. thanks. nt Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #122