2016 Postmortem

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138. "I don't see how any Democrat can defend that behavior."

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:50 PM

Mar 2016

Total agreement. It's mind boggling that anyone here would even try.

And thanks for the Brennan Center link! Good folks.

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Mass Sec of State is looking into Bill Clintons activivities on primary day [View all] peacebird Mar 2016 OP

It's been mentioned on MJ, I do hope it gets serious legs. Bill Clinton's arrogance was OTT...n/t monmouth4 Mar 2016 #1

If by MJ, you mean Mother Jones, that is impressive! Svafa Mar 2016 #85

I'm sorry, no, Morning Joe...n/t monmouth4 Mar 2016 #87

That makes A LOT more sense. Thanks for clarifying. nt Svafa Mar 2016 #90

I noticed it, too. senz Mar 2016 #124

Complete and utter disgrace to their namesake. Svafa Mar 2016 #125

The rules don't apply to the Clintons apparently Armstead Mar 2016 #2

As long as he didn't campaign from within the actual voting booths..... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #6

Yup. Who knew those voting booths were 150 feet long? (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2016 #18

At least he didn't shove aside a little old lady with a walker Divernan Mar 2016 #36

unfortunately you'd have to get past his Secret Service detail to do that. nt magical thyme Mar 2016 #42

I guess ignorance of the law IS an excuse. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2016 #17

more like "ignoring the law" since we know that he knew perfectly well what he was doing. nt magical thyme Mar 2016 #43

More evidence of Clinton unsuitability for positions of power. nt senz Mar 2016 #129

ayup. election commission asks him to tone it down; instead he doubles down. nt magical thyme Mar 2016 #135

What better way to celebrate the first presidential election since the SC gutted the VRA? loyalsister Mar 2016 #137

"I don't see how any Democrat can defend that behavior." senz Mar 2016 #138

They need to take it seriously. Just imagine if Sanders had a bullhorn in front of nc4bo Mar 2016 #3

Yep, he stole the whole election. Several thousand Sanders' voters changed to Clinton Hoyt Mar 2016 #4

I would be fined if I walked in with my Bernie t-shirt and sign, Vinca Mar 2016 #5

give him a $20 fine, and move on. Adrahil Mar 2016 #7

I agree...but maybe $200 and a public rebuke Armstead Mar 2016 #15

Yes. He should get a minor fine... and the bad press that comes with it. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #19

A fine and a court order to stay away from all polling places noamnety Mar 2016 #59

He should be subject to the same laws as everyone else if he is found to be in violation AllyCat Mar 2016 #37

Well, when I voted other day, I saw people parking within 20 feet of the door with bumper stickers, Hoyt Mar 2016 #86

Oh for fuck's sake. TM99 Mar 2016 #92

Not one vote was changed to Clinton, maybe some Clinton supporters switched to Sanders after Hoyt Mar 2016 #94

Such a typical response from a Clinton supporter. TM99 Mar 2016 #100

Seems like others in same position have done it, and I suspect a lot of Sanders' supporters would Hoyt Mar 2016 #101

No Sanders said the focus on it in debates TM99 Mar 2016 #114

you. don't. know. that. 0rganism Mar 2016 #130

Exactly, you don't know either. But it darn sure didn't affect the results. Sanders lost, fair and Hoyt Mar 2016 #131

oh, i agree - HRC clearly won, but... 0rganism Mar 2016 #133

Can't help where you park in some places. AllyCat Mar 2016 #97

It's only a big deal among those desperately looking for a way forward. I get that. Hoyt Mar 2016 #99

The desperation was all Bill's. MA was virtually tied senz Mar 2016 #132

People wanting to vote and get on to their home, job, or other event is "desperation" AllyCat Mar 2016 #147

Assuming that happened, probably wouldn't impact results of Clinton winning. Hoyt Mar 2016 #149

Really? You think people hung out for hours just to hear Big Dog while they WAITED to vote? AllyCat Mar 2016 #151

Didn't say it was right, but the whining is a waste because it didn't change the results. Hoyt Mar 2016 #152

Bernie cares if voters were hindered Mira Mar 2016 #62

Disagree... KoKo Mar 2016 #63

I see. So IF Hillary takes the primary me b zola Mar 2016 #79

If it's so silly and meaningless, WHY was he there at all those places causing all that rucus? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #83

If he hadn't been there, you folks would be going, "What's Bill hiding from." Jeeez Hoyt Mar 2016 #96

No but he disregarded voters precious time. Not everyone has hours to vote. nc4bo Mar 2016 #10

What makes this really bad is the hubris of it! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #31

You're not getting it marions ghost Mar 2016 #13

I've been a poll watcher, Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #141

He had to know marions ghost Mar 2016 #145

I wouldn't be able to stand in line for hours Geronimoe Mar 2016 #41

Exactly his just standing there is enough to change people's votes? treestar Mar 2016 #54

If it makes a 30 minute process turn into a 150 minute process, Lucky Luciano Mar 2016 #65

Can't imagine a Bernie supporter not being willing to wait 150 minutes treestar Mar 2016 #66

Seriously?! People have jobs they need to get to. Lucky Luciano Mar 2016 #69

Hello this was a revolution? treestar Mar 2016 #73

. Lucky Luciano Mar 2016 #75

OK I got mixed up with the last primary treestar Mar 2016 #117

My God. Kall Mar 2016 #78

You sure shock easy. treestar Mar 2016 #118

I can't even... uh Mother Of Four Mar 2016 #93

I got that wrong but my point stands treestar Mar 2016 #119

Okies Mother Of Four Mar 2016 #123

okok we get it...the clintons are above the law questionseverything Mar 2016 #113

is there any direct proof anyone waited? treestar Mar 2016 #121

Some folks rob you with a six gun, some with a fountain pen. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #72

Why is it... artislife Mar 2016 #105

Sad isn't it artislife monicaangela Mar 2016 #109

Yup, sums them up for me. senz Mar 2016 #140

This too shall fade away fredamae Mar 2016 #8

maybe he was referring to a different lever virtualobserver Mar 2016 #9

Ba dum! PonyUp Mar 2016 #12

Wrong lever, Kronk. nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #45

The problem is, he apparently went to 4 polling places, all secured by the Secret Service for hours. TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #11

I keep hearing this too, but have not been able to find a news source that says AllyCat Mar 2016 #38

Salon & Boston Mag cite W. Roxbury and Newton, where he actually entered the polling places magical thyme Mar 2016 #46

The SS should also be held accountable for this. I don't jwirr Mar 2016 #61

it's Massachusetts election law that he violated magical thyme Mar 2016 #71

Why would it make any difference about state law except jwirr Mar 2016 #77

I didn't notice the SS at the front of your title. I was still thinking about Clinton. nt magical thyme Mar 2016 #80

Here is an article from Boston LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #47

The campaign was apparently warned and they kept doing it. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #14

Sanction and Move On Paulie Mar 2016 #16

I didn't see in the story that he told someone to "pull the lever for Hillary" inside a polling Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #20

Because he didn't. But you know it is true because someone said it here. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #21

Video of it on twitter. Interesting BostonCBS local had a video of Bill glad handing inside a poll peacebird Mar 2016 #23

So all evidence of this has been completely scrubbed from the internet? Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #25

No. Just that link from a local CBS station. peacebird Mar 2016 #26

Is this what you are looking for? monicaangela Mar 2016 #32

Nothing is ever really scrubbed once someone captures and puts it back up. AllyCat Mar 2016 #40

My pleasure AllyCat monicaangela Mar 2016 #111

Thanks for this. It makes my head hurt watching this Arazi Mar 2016 #50

I agree Arazi monicaangela Mar 2016 #112

per Boston Globe, he was outside the polling place. However, under Mass election laws magical thyme Mar 2016 #48

HOW MUCH DID THIS ELECTIONEERING COST TAXPAYERS?? grasswire Mar 2016 #139

Here LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #49

By Hook or by Crook madokie Mar 2016 #22

Exactly peacebird Mar 2016 #24

Voting and Counting Procedures for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts states: Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #27

Clearly violated the law. The Sec of State of Mass called the campaign to remind them of rules peacebird Mar 2016 #28

"gently" .............unbelievable bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #34

In 2008 two states lost their right to vote in the primary. jwirr Mar 2016 #67

Because of the schedule, went earlier than the DNC dictated bigbrother05 Mar 2016 #91

Yeah. Just like Hillary will "look into" releasing transcripts. nt cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #29

Just Bill being Bill democrank Mar 2016 #30

nope. He danced right over the edge and into the center. magical thyme Mar 2016 #52

"He's not from here so he may not know" bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #33

Yes because catnhatnh Mar 2016 #102

I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. erlewyne Mar 2016 #35

Unrec ... BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #39

From your article (which is two days old): George II Mar 2016 #44

The Clintons are smart enough to look at the law and know what it is treestar Mar 2016 #51

LOL DesMoinesDem Mar 2016 #55

Yeah. Why would they do anything without checking that out? treestar Mar 2016 #57

OMG, Did You Really Just Say That? Even More... ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #68

if they were too dumb to know not to stand on the other side of the line treestar Mar 2016 #70

YOU SO FUNNY! n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #76

non responsive treestar Mar 2016 #122

"Smart" (sneaky) enough to know just how Svafa Mar 2016 #89

Just Us. Octafish Mar 2016 #53

And standing with a bullhorn near the polling place with all jwirr Mar 2016 #56

i hope so! amborin Mar 2016 #58

SOS says he won't do anything because he likes Clinton. noamnety Mar 2016 #60

Pity there isn't some kind of federally applicable estoppel to prevent him from doing this again. JudyM Mar 2016 #64

Exactly. If there are no consequences for what he did in MA, stranger81 Mar 2016 #95

I think so. JudyM Mar 2016 #98

Work hard and play by the rules. Bill Clinton Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #74

Well, let's see if there's Mass. still maintains that old "rule of law" thing. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #81

All of the Conspiracy Theories.. asuhornets Mar 2016 #82

Just by BEING THERE he is promoting the candidate-- marions ghost Mar 2016 #84

If t-shirts and buttons are off limits loyalsister Mar 2016 #126

I think that's the only conclusion marions ghost Mar 2016 #144

I imagine that Trump's campaign is watching this closely me b zola Mar 2016 #88

It was voter suppression NowSam Mar 2016 #103

Good post. snowy owl Mar 2016 #108

Exactly. It isn't like it was close or anything. NowSam Mar 2016 #110

Looking into it matt819 Mar 2016 #104

Why was he even there? artislife Mar 2016 #106

"He was a good president . . ." so he can break the rules. snowy owl Mar 2016 #107

They gave him a bullhorn to boot so the 150 ft seems kind of irrelevant. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #115

":they gave him a bullhorn" probably because his voice was going... brooklynite Mar 2016 #120

As Clinton walks away smiling, giving the peace sign with one hand and the bird with the other. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #116

Just read here that Bill is the one who advised Trump to run. notadmblnd Mar 2016 #127

I'm so sick of these people getting away with anything they want. I Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #128

New video from a would be voter who was outraged shows Bill INSIDE canvassiing for his sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #134

Story linked is TWO days old, SOS already came out and said NO ISSUE Justice Mar 2016 #136

Doesnt mean it's over marions ghost Mar 2016 #146

Can you point us to Bernie Sanders' statement on this issue? brooklynite Mar 2016 #148

No I can't point you marions ghost Mar 2016 #150

It's a club, and we're NOT in it... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Mar 2016 #142

Nothing will come of this. smiley Mar 2016 #143