2016 Postmortem

delrem

(9,688 posts)

58. Really, I don't give a shit who you're "voting for".

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:10 PM

Mar 2016

If you're talking about actual issues of importance who you claim to be voting for should have no bearing on your argument. When you preface your posts with that information as prelude to typing out something that's counter-intuitive it doesn't make your case easier to understand.

Like for example that you're a "Sanders supporter" but you think running against the DLC/Third-Way/New_Democrat Hillary Clinton associated legacy is "lunacy".

I mean, like, yah right....

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

62 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

A Democrat running against Bill Clinton's and Barack Obama's records is lunacy [View all] Recursion Mar 2016 OP

Good post - thanks EffieBlack Mar 2016 #1

It's true, elleng Mar 2016 #2

The party and its leaders aren't beyond criticism. TDale313 Mar 2016 #3

Bernie just calls it like he sees it. NowSam Mar 2016 #4

Sanders isn't running "against" Obama or Bill Clinton; he just wants to go farther Qutzupalotl Mar 2016 #5

Well put. n/t TDale313 Mar 2016 #6

No, Sanders is saying we can do more than they did. jeff47 Mar 2016 #7

Glass-Steagall Repeal, NAFTA, Telecommunications Act, Commodities Futures Modernization Act dirtydickcheney Mar 2016 #8

Elizabeth Warren disagrees with you on Glass-Steagall Recursion Mar 2016 #9

With Warren's 21st century Glass Steagall Act it wouldn't have happened jfern Mar 2016 #17

Well, again, Warren doesn't agree with you Recursion Mar 2016 #22

You are right Gwhittey Mar 2016 #35

Almost. It stops them from using their own capital Recursion Mar 2016 #37

You are correct. President Clinton left office with a very high approval rating. The consensus back lunamagica Mar 2016 #10

Clinton left with a 53% "fatigue" rating by the public Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #20

WRONG. He left office with the highest approval of any modern president. lunamagica Mar 2016 #24

By the end of his second term, people were getting tired of Clinton Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #28

Are you suggesting that Dubya would have beat Clinton if not for the 22nd Amendment? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #33

You know well that Gore distanced himself from Pressident Clinton lunamagica Mar 2016 #36

How is bringing up the fact that Clinton was NOT as popular as you maintain he was Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #46

It is not a fact. I showed you how popular he was when he left office lunamagica Mar 2016 #51

Do people remember 2008 or 1998 Paulie Mar 2016 #11

K & R Scurrilous Mar 2016 #12

Bill Clinton greased the skids for the economic collapse with deregulation. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #13

Sanders helped with the CFMA vote which had a way bigger impact on the collapse than Steagal YCHDT Mar 2016 #16

Haha! Funny to see progressives just skip right over Bush! JaneyVee Mar 2016 #19

Not to worry, no one mistakes you for a progressive. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #41

Just an FYI. TM99 Mar 2016 #48

Thanks! Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #49

And that in a nutshell is why Sanders is not leading Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #14

I agree with this OP, Obama is one of the most popular dems among dems in history and YCHDT Mar 2016 #15

2008 Gwhittey Mar 2016 #38

Sanders said course correction in 2016, not 8 years ago YCHDT Mar 2016 #61

A voice of sanity. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #18

I would run against financial deregulation and the TPP if I were running. mmonk Mar 2016 #21

So is a democrat running on a platform of more war, privatization of everything, capital punishment Doctor_J Mar 2016 #23

K&R mcar Mar 2016 #25

He's not running against them whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #26

Sanders called for course correction this year YCHDT Mar 2016 #62

It would be, but he's not. Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #27

"It is Clinton campaign spin that Sanders is running against Obama because it suits her politically" Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #29

There is a lot of revisionism regarding Bill Clinton's tenure... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #30

Clinton removed the Counterbalancing Force of Liberalism Armstead Mar 2016 #31

Well DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #34

I agrewith half of that Armstead Mar 2016 #42

We have been seeing a lot of lunatics lately. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #32

Obama ran citing a list of Clinton policy he sought to repeal and reverse Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #39

Yes, Bill Clinton was a better Republican than Reagan. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #40

good post n/t obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #43

The "great again" and "already great" are dim-witted talking points Ron Green Mar 2016 #44

I suppose because he is trying to capitalize on anger MaggieD Mar 2016 #45

Oh quit it with the "I'm reluctantly voting Sanders" crap. delrem Mar 2016 #47

And yet I'm voting for Sanders, whether you like it or not (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #55

Really, I don't give a shit who you're "voting for". delrem Mar 2016 #58

Sanders has always been extremely deferential to Obama Arazi Mar 2016 #50

Wait, you support Bernie but he's a stupid lunatic? panader0 Mar 2016 #52

I think his main strategy is ultimately a weak one, and Hillary's is worse Recursion Mar 2016 #56

So it's NOT Hillary that Sanders is running against dana_b Mar 2016 #53

Great point! scscholar Mar 2016 #54

Not running against them at all -- pushing further with the best of the 2 GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #57

I remember the tech bubble happening on Bill Clinton's watch. OZi Mar 2016 #59

Yes it is lunacy, and there are a lot of lunatics maddened by CDS and ODS. Hekate Mar 2016 #60