2016 Postmortem

thesquanderer

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14. Eisenhower warned us about the MIC, and we're still not listening. (n/t)

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Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:55 PM

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Hillary: Obama "trusted my judgment" -- and he got screwed. [View all] thesquanderer Mar 2016 OP

Now tell me how Darb Mar 2016 #1

More relevant questions than that... thesquanderer Mar 2016 #5

Ok Nostradomus. Darb Mar 2016 #6

Thank you for your honesty..... daleanime Mar 2016 #54

Hillary is eager to continue pursuing Israel's foreign policy objectives. / FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #2

I don't think what happened in Libya had anything to do with Israel...? (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2016 #21

Israel? Wrong continent. grossproffit Mar 2016 #24

This should by itself disqualify her from being CIC. Vattel Mar 2016 #3

Yep. I bet he is regretting the stain of Libya and Honduras on his legacy. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #4

BO called Honduras a coupe. Downwinder Mar 2016 #11

Maybe that is the real reason Clinton left malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #47

Took a long time. Things started happening when Downwinder Mar 2016 #50

The biggest mistake Obama made was making Hillary Sec. of State Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #7

I agree. People died. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #12

a LOT of people died Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #13

Probably biggest was Rahm Emmanuel, but i dare say Rahm suggested Hillary. peacebird Mar 2016 #31

Maybe Hillary for foreign policy, and Rahm for domestic? (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2016 #34

Yes peacebird Mar 2016 #36

Hillary is a neocon; Her Middle East foreign-policy adviser was Robert Kagan CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #8

Eisenhower warned us about the MIC, and we're still not listening. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2016 #14

And Kissinger is a mentor..... peacebird Mar 2016 #33

Here's a great piece on Libya that was on Democracy Now. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #45

Clinton has plenty of experience making the wrong decisions, Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #9

Qaddafi more than once indicated he was willing to step aside. polly7 Mar 2016 #10

Libya is a failed nation in tatters CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #15

Well said, CoffeeCat. polly7 Mar 2016 #16

It's all about the shock doctrine. nt Svafa Mar 2016 #19

He threatened the Arab Spring revolt with a bloodbath. randome Mar 2016 #37

Yeah, you tried that same line yesterday. Pure, propaganda bullshit same as it was less polly7 Mar 2016 #39

The average American voter will shed no tears for terrorists like Qaddafi. oasis Mar 2016 #17

Fair enough. But ISIS is a much worse threat than Qaddafi was. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #20

Libya, Syria, Honduras, the abandonment of the Green Revolution in Iran, Ukraine, Russia, China... EndElectoral Mar 2016 #18

Yeah, poor Obama, if only he had been president and made up his own mind. Beacool Mar 2016 #22

So, as SOS, was she a major influence on foreign policy or not? thesquanderer Mar 2016 #25

Well said. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #30

SOS consult continually with the WH. Beacool Mar 2016 #43

You are putting words in my mouth. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #46

+1! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #27

Millions have been wrong before. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #29

And would we be giving Condalzeeza Rice a pass on Bush foreign policy disasters? thesquanderer Mar 2016 #32

sadly, her role has been studiously ignored ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #42

Hillary Clinton is malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #48

ISIS surging in Libya: amborin Mar 2016 #23

Qaddafi was threatening the Arab Spring in Libya with a bloodbath. randome Mar 2016 #26

Did you read the NY Times piece? thesquanderer Mar 2016 #38

The problem is that the No-Fly Zone became continuous NATO bombing and special forces operations leveymg Mar 2016 #40

Anyone trust in Hillary will be in trouble, ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #28

I really don't know what I'm going to do My Good Babushka Mar 2016 #35

A lot of our latter-day revisionists on Qaddafi BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #41

I do not blame it all on Hillary. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #44

Hillary Clinton is running on her malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #49

Obama got kicked in the ass b/c of hrc. juxtaposed Mar 2016 #51

The President obviously doesn't feel that way. Metric System Mar 2016 #52

Clinton think twice? Why? She is totally awesome. NO one better. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #53