2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

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48. How would winning more delegates and the popular vote...

Reply to artislife (Reply #45)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 03:25 AM

Mar 2016

..."weaken her in the eyes of the November voters?"

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Today proves Hillary has done a terrible job of wrapping this up! [View all] Logical Mar 2016 OP

She expanded her lead today. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #1

Who among those reccing this post are confident she won't win MI tomorrow? brooklynite Mar 2016 #148

Sanders lost ground today. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #2

We are not numbers. We are people and we will continue to vote for him and support him liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #10

Who said you were a number? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #24

Well I'm sick of those using the numbers to try and get us Bernie supporters to give up and liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #26

I'm sure as hell not trying to get anyone to change their preference. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #28

I may have missed it in oyur post but waht did you mena by... Matt_R Mar 2016 #64

What I mean is... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #67

Thank you for the clarification. Up till now I haven't seen too many posts with your name on them. Matt_R Mar 2016 #71

You are extremely condescending. People understand perfectly. kristopher Mar 2016 #66

It's basic math, understanding delegate allocation and grasping the impact of demographics. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #68

No, it isn't basic math - it is a number meaningful only because of assumptions kristopher Mar 2016 #72

Nominations are determined by delegate accumulation. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #75

Just stop. kristopher Mar 2016 #77

What model? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #83

Sure, you don't know what model Enten has cobbled together. Right. Sure you don't. kristopher Mar 2016 #86

No, really, what are you talking about? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #88

The argument seems to be that the poster doesn't like the outcome mythology Mar 2016 #108

...and yet you presume to characterize Sanders' campaign in your own terms. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #70

This will only weaken her in the eyes of the November voters! nt artislife Mar 2016 #45

How would winning more delegates and the popular vote... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #48

She is lost to middle America today. Kansas and Nebraska. artislife Mar 2016 #50

Those states aren't representative of the Democratic electorate. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #57

More representative than Louisiana. kristopher Mar 2016 #78

No, they aren't. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #84

Riiiight. Like I said. Condescending. kristopher Mar 2016 #85

You made a false statement. I called you on it. Period. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #87

People aren't numbers.... RichGirl Mar 2016 #107

A dismal Democratic turnout in Kansas and Nebraska Zambero Mar 2016 #13

Kansas had a higher turnout than '08 KelleyKramer Mar 2016 #41

Well, Bernie obviously did his part. Put the blame where it belong on the DNC. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #89

WEll Gwhittey Mar 2016 #118

Nebraska down by 5,397 votes. Kansas turnout up by 2,409..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #110

Still, 1% of the Kansas population? Zambero Mar 2016 #123

Clinton continues to do well in Deep South republican-voting States. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #30

"Republican-voting" is misleading... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #36

Eventually, we won't be talking about the primaries. Marr Mar 2016 #104

Sanders does well in states whose populations are largely or almost exclusively Caucasian jmowreader Mar 2016 #42

Most of the "blue" states yet to vote... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #46

Exactly, Garrett jmowreader Mar 2016 #51

So if Sanders wins those three states... Matt_R Mar 2016 #62

Assuming Sanders wins those three states, we could call him that jmowreader Mar 2016 #76

The Hispanic vote is much more important in California, and HRC Marr Mar 2016 #105

No, she doesn't. okasha Mar 2016 #135

OK, 75% white. USA, 77% white. Who won OK? Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #111

"That is if you count the Native Americans which many here do not seem to do. " Gwhittey Mar 2016 #117

And Bernie did well in deep red states treestar Mar 2016 #109

Hillary dominates in those states GeoWilliam750 Mar 2016 #43

Of course today changed something. As does every primary/caucus. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #44

The problem with that analysis is that it treats all states and all delegates as the same. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #65

But to some what you said as Gwhittey Mar 2016 #120

Its a long way to the convention and a lot of things can happen tularetom Mar 2016 #103

Given that she is more than 200 delegates ahead at this point frazzled Mar 2016 #3

Losing states is not good for Hillary! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #4

Losing delegates is even worse for Bernie...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #5

We will fight you and the wealthy 1% until the end. You may have Goldman-Sachs and rhett o rick Mar 2016 #7

I like your fighting spirit!!! Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #20

Those of us on the front lines, fighting for those that don't get enough food and health rhett o rick Mar 2016 #22

Hey go easy on Sid ibegurpard Mar 2016 #55

I think we are going to give some of them more than their walking papers. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #73

Yeah, that 1% is a horrible group of people from top to bottom, right? George II Mar 2016 #125

Huh? The wealthy 1% have wealths in excess of $9 million dollars. Sen Sanders will rhett o rick Mar 2016 #141

Hillary has the support of the people; she got 4.17 million votes to Sanders' 2.65 million. nt SunSeeker Mar 2016 #127

The Big Money may buy her the WH but the People will prevail sooner or later. The Oligarchy rhett o rick Mar 2016 #140

Bernie is spending more per vote than Hillary. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #142

And there's the problem. You are happy with the status quo, apparently ignoring rhett o rick Mar 2016 #145

What a disgusting post, filled with nothing but lying personal attacks. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #150

Ok tell me that you support solving these issues and then explain how you think Clinton will help. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #152

Hillary is a tough, smart progressive fighter who will help the poor and the middle class. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #153

But she is not progressive and she has only given us rhetoric about the wealth rhett o rick Mar 2016 #154

Clearly you haven't taken the few minutes necessary BainsBane Mar 2016 #155

Oh but I have. Nothing there but empty rhetoric. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #158

Can the drama. okasha Mar 2016 #136

The hubris of the Super-Rich (like Clinton) will be their downfall. Gloat while you can but sooner rhett o rick Mar 2016 #139

Are you auditioning to play Garibaldi okasha Mar 2016 #143

Those that back Clinton are turning thier backs on the middle and working classes. Clinton has rhett o rick Mar 2016 #144

Ridicule is exactly what your overwrought performance deserves okasha Mar 2016 #146

I find it amusing that you sink to calling me names. It reeks of desperation. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #147

Wrong. okasha Mar 2016 #149

This is an election, not a war. shenmue Mar 2016 #137

Tell that to those that have lost their homes, jobs, retirement funds, due to the looting rhett o rick Mar 2016 #138

But it's good for Sanders? frazzled Mar 2016 #6

They don't count states at the convention, only delegates. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #15

Losing by large margins is even worse. morningfog Mar 2016 #19

Only 200 when thousands are needed Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #9

Hillary should be sweeping every state with perhaps 1 or two exceptions Hydra Mar 2016 #39

They really could not have made it more advantageous and yet... artislife Mar 2016 #47

Hillary is a "progressive who gets things done!" Joe Shlabotnik Mar 2016 #54

I agree-- that's the story here. Sanders was literally laughed at by the Marr Mar 2016 #106

Why? Obama didn't sweep every state in 2008, by any means. frazzled Mar 2016 #128

Why should Obama have swept the primaries? Hydra Mar 2016 #130

I believe I stated exactly what happened in my post frazzled Mar 2016 #133

How many delegates are needed? DemRace Mar 2016 #157

Yes Yes Yes Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #8

Not much excitement about Hillary Nt Logical Mar 2016 #11

I agree Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #14

Except in the voting booth. nt kstewart33 Mar 2016 #18

Today proves Bernie has done a horrible job with AA... fun n serious Mar 2016 #12

No presence in LA. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #17

How? nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #21

Caucuses are more easily won by the underdog. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #23

Yes. I am wondering why Bernie did not a least try fun n serious Mar 2016 #31

Could well be. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #32

I can't remember a time fun n serious Mar 2016 #35

uh you forgot Lane County! nt grasswire Mar 2016 #74

I never saw Eugene as being big enough to count. Also.too close to a lot of small town red. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #82

And yet our Rep is Peter DeFazio....second largest city in the State..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #113

Yes but it's still not very big. fun n serious Mar 2016 #116

Fun fact about 2008 Primary in Oregon. Both Obama and Clinton made many visits in 2008 but prior to Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #112

About Roseburg... fun n serious Mar 2016 #114

And Hillary does a horrible job with white people. jillan Mar 2016 #25

Really? Beacool Mar 2016 #16

She is a terrible dem! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #29

Your opinion, obviously not the opinion of those who are voting for her. Beacool Mar 2016 #34

At least... Democrats Ascendant Mar 2016 #38

LOL, 19 posts, returning member? Nt Logical Mar 2016 #40

Old Newbie Democrats Ascendant Mar 2016 #53

And LA will vote for the Republican in November. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #59

And your point? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #61

My point is LA carries much less weight in GE considerations. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #90

If the Deep South was the only place Clinton could be expected to accumulate delegates... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #131

Odd that Louisana went for Romney in 2012.. Matt_R Mar 2016 #69

It looks like both had about 290,000 votes cast. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #81

oops my calculator is broke I missed 100k on the pub side, wasn't carrying the 1. n/t Matt_R Mar 2016 #91

Not so logical. Metric System Mar 2016 #27

Weren't there a ton of threads claiming it would be OVER on Super Tuesday? nt cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #33

By "over" nobody means to suggest the primary has officially concluded. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #37

"keeps growing as expected." dchill Mar 2016 #49

It had been forecasted well ahead of Saturday's contests... Garrett78 Mar 2016 #60

HILLARY WILL WRAP IT UP. NEVER FEAR!!! Hiraeth Mar 2016 #52

Bernie's going all the way to the convention. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #56

Hillary supporters are counting states that haven't even voted yet. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #58

Stay in it till the end Bernie! JDPriestly Mar 2016 #63

She wrapped it up last week. ucrdem Mar 2016 #79

Are you going to change Gwhittey Mar 2016 #119

only to you Bernie supporters... chillfactor Mar 2016 #80

The map of the primary states she has won Califonz Mar 2016 #92

says something, doesn't it? even John Lewis referred to the 11 states of islandmkl Mar 2016 #93

Here we go with the "she cant close the deal" nonsense. DCBob Mar 2016 #94

DCBob, if anyone of predictable it is you. Scanning for your OPs is always entertaining. nt Logical Mar 2016 #97

Thank you.. I like to consider myself consistent and have a good sense of humor. DCBob Mar 2016 #98

No, that is not it. But lets say you are the epitome of the Hillary supporters here. nt Logical Mar 2016 #99

Darn.. taking back the compliment. DCBob Mar 2016 #101

Word for word, this is what people were saying about Obama at this point in 2008 Recursion Mar 2016 #95

Of course at 'this point' in 08 Hillary had won CA, CA being the largest set of delegates Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #115

Yes, she should suspend BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #96

Go Bernie! kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #100

I only proves that the tried and true Jay Mohler Mar 2016 #102

How funny is it Gwhittey Mar 2016 #122

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #129

Yeah, who cares about the GE. Its not like its the important race this Matt_R Mar 2016 #134

But she is winning in the popular vote.. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #121

She's winning on both counts: popular vote and pledged delegates. Beacool Mar 2016 #124

Yes she is! :) fun n serious Mar 2016 #126

A 3 line post and 3 nt resposes. Well done logical nt Buzz cook Mar 2016 #132

Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Mar 2016 #151

Doesn't get much better!!! NCTraveler Mar 2016 #156