2016 Postmortem

pdsimdars

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66. Keep up

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:35 AM

Mar 2016

Hillary hasn't promised a thing except words, just like Trump. He says he'll make America great again and Hillary says she'll make America work for everyone, or some such nonsense. Bernie has been the ONLY candidate to put out what he actually wants to do, that's why you have something to attack without offering anything up yourselves. But he has also put out how he plans to finance his plans and has also talked about how he can get things rolling.
Hillary's plan is like Obama's, well she'll TRY to do something but that mean old congress won't let her so she'll settle for almost nothing.
No goal is ever reached by that thinking. You have to set a goal and go for it. Remember Kennedy and going to the moon. We didn't even have that technology to do it but he said we would and we did.
And do you think FDR had a totally willing congress during his time? If everyone was cooperating why did he say the welcomes their hatred? All those congress members from the south weren't clamoring for Civil Rights act but LBJ pushed and cajoled them and he got that done too.
THE POINT: NOTHING BIG IS EVER ACHIEVED BY AIMING SMALL.

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Apparently The Secret is Out.... Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh [View all] tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 OP

HRC Is Owned By The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Make No Mistake About Her Loyalties cantbeserious Mar 2016 #1

should be called a DIS-Honorarium tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #4

I own stock in some of those companies... Human101948 Mar 2016 #5

You can't believe they are wasting money like this? Gary 50 Mar 2016 #218

You are absolutely correct but... Human101948 Mar 2016 #220

Yes we are in complete agreement. It's not actually funding, it's bribing. Gary 50 Mar 2016 #221

YEAH! A president FOR the people! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #27

As defiled by Citizens United - the travesty written about in 1984. erronis Mar 2016 #168

so u think she is being disengenious in her push to the left? bjobotts Mar 2016 #214

Is that a serious question? StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #219

Actually, there's not much "thinking" required Plucketeer Mar 2016 #222

Thank you will print this off. gordianot Mar 2016 #29

That makes me sick. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #44

This needs it's own OP, cantbeserious... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #71

Done cantbeserious Mar 2016 #77

Thank You! Excellent post. Shocking. Eye opening. nationalize the fed Mar 2016 #137

Here Is The DU Primaries Web Link cantbeserious Mar 2016 #140

Surely, it cant be serious....... nolabels Mar 2016 #88

CANNOT be president OF THE PEOPLE. senz Mar 2016 #102

K&R yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #156

It's there for all to see. People just need to open their eyes. Broward Mar 2016 #2

This neat old DU post about this issue beyondbeyond Mar 2016 #31

I LUV her too.. asuhornets Mar 2016 #3

Question is why? Human101948 Mar 2016 #7

I expect asuhornets Mar 2016 #14

As you can see, she will do the opposite... dchill Mar 2016 #15

Based on what?. asuhornets Mar 2016 #21

Based on the OP. dchill Mar 2016 #23

Of Course he doesn't...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #26

But Hillary does!!!!! dchill Mar 2016 #32

Uh-huh. Aha Mar 2016 #36

47 years makes Bernie part of the establishment...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #104

The ONLY good part of the establishment....n/t Enthusiast Mar 2016 #172

Excuses Excuses...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #178

Are you aware there's a Hillary Group on DU? Plucketeer Mar 2016 #45

I'm very much aware asuhornets Mar 2016 #105

Well, you're "new" Plucketeer Mar 2016 #206

I've been coming to this board since Bush stole the election-not new at all...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #208

Sanders supporter trying to silence Clinton supporter in GD Primaries MyNameGoesHere Mar 2016 #203

They ALL do it??????? Plucketeer Mar 2016 #35

When the day comes, asuhornets Mar 2016 #111

I stand in awe Plucketeer Mar 2016 #120

Are you surprised? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #138

Not at all surprized Plucketeer Mar 2016 #146

Intellectually, asuhornets Mar 2016 #147

and we will suffer timmymoff Mar 2016 #150

And just where will this sudden enthusiastic support for Hillary come from? Enthusiast Mar 2016 #173

it's always been there..n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #174

She's underwater. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #188

If only I could write BIGGER checks. Plucketeer Mar 2016 #223

Yuck... asuhornets Mar 2016 #224

Your words: asuhornets Mar 2016 #149

Wrong Plucketeer Mar 2016 #154

Except people actually do care Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #40

No, they don't "all do it." Kall Mar 2016 #124

Three words you might want to google: Sanders Sierra Blanca pkdu Mar 2016 #135

Hey! That's fun. Here's some more mikehiggins Mar 2016 #215

Since my post wasn't in response to you , I can only assume you have been overcome by internet pkdu Mar 2016 #216

Because they all do it - makes it right? 840high Mar 2016 #176

Bernie has far more experience than Hillary. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #213

Three of those things are Republican positions. Dawgs Mar 2016 #34

A repug creation asuhornets Mar 2016 #114

It is also helping a lot of Americans RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #130

You sound like a Republican, she should try cutting the war budget. JRLeft Mar 2016 #37

I am no where near asuhornets Mar 2016 #116

No, you sound like Trump, strengthening the military. How much money is enough for the war budget? JRLeft Mar 2016 #119

Yeah, Keep telling yourself that. kath Mar 2016 #131

Do you have a clue about who she ACTUALLY is? I mean what she has ACTUALLY done? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #48

"Strengthen the military" is a good thing? tularetom Mar 2016 #51

Yooge plus one! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #175

OMG, like the military needs strengthening.... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #74

Well asuhornets Mar 2016 #118

Bad reasoning... phazed0 Mar 2016 #161

I did not say the military needs more money...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #162

My mistake then, but it sounds like you are in disagreement... phazed0 Mar 2016 #169

Strengthening veterans benefits, active military safety and health, YES! More weapons and wars, NO! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #183

i'm with that.....n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #184

Vets support Bernie All in it together Mar 2016 #185

Bernie is on the Veterans Affairs Committee. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #186

Hillary Clinton with all of her corporate backing could run as a Republican INdemo Mar 2016 #81

Um... from the person who helped write the TPP? Phlem Mar 2016 #110

+1 - They are freaking delusional if they think HRC is going to "make jobs" phazed0 Mar 2016 #160

Just like the jobs RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #126

Ok this Gwhittey Mar 2016 #142

Outsourcing of jobs. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #171

What's all this talk about strengthening the military? WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #192

So you've drinking the kool-aid that Hillary is serving. Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #193

Just like I can't change your vote, asuhornets Mar 2016 #195

To me, facts matter. Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #197

And Bernie is unknown, that's why he's losing...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #199

Sounds exactly like what a republican would say about their candidate Doctor_J Mar 2016 #209

thats all you got...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #210

"strengthen the military"? Ken Burch Mar 2016 #211

I'll be honest with you. sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #28

That can also asuhornets Mar 2016 #94

Yes, it can. sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #129

Ahh but see I did not like Gwhittey Mar 2016 #151

LOL, work for wall street? Or just uninformed? nt Logical Mar 2016 #153

Looking at the primary popular vote totals, a lot of people love Hillary wyldwolf Mar 2016 #6

A George Carlin quote or two comes to mind. bvf Mar 2016 #24

Heh UNinformed people Plucketeer Mar 2016 #49

who knew? Shadowflash Mar 2016 #8

But remember: you mustn't accuse them of voting against their self-interest! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #13

Haha! Shadowflash Mar 2016 #16

And yet they ridicule the Repubs for doing the same. Broward Mar 2016 #20

Precisely! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #22

Oprah is weathly, so are JayZ and Beyonce...and a few others noiretextatique Mar 2016 #100

No difference between the way they govern. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #79

Seems like a whole lot of people "luv" her... Agschmid Mar 2016 #9

More importantly can Harvey Weinstein get his mojo back???? hollysmom Mar 2016 #10

They seem to keep making her look younger and younger in photos notadmblnd Mar 2016 #11

Because the cover is from 2007, nt Progressive dog Mar 2016 #46

I prefer this one :) pinebox Mar 2016 #12

Me too. dchill Mar 2016 #17

That would be cool to have blown up as a poster and framed. n/t TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #18

Awesome! But ... Is that an old photo? You'd think ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #19

That's awesome? sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #38

I think they only see Plucketeer Mar 2016 #59

The cover is from 2007 nt Progressive dog Mar 2016 #50

That was implied in the OP Armstead Mar 2016 #58

No, she has never tried to keep support for business in the Progressive dog Mar 2016 #65

Well over on DU forms we see Gwhittey Mar 2016 #134

That doesn't make any sense nt Progressive dog Mar 2016 #143

The desperation is palpable. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #159

Pfffpt.. lol. phazed0 Mar 2016 #165

I am guessing this is the cover of an old Fortune issue Karma13612 Mar 2016 #182

Who didn't know? They have been paying her off since the jwirr Mar 2016 #25

It boggles my mind as to how misinformed readers of Furtune magazine must be FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #30

I'm with Her. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #33

Why would you be for someone sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #47

They just don't seem to actually know anything -- no facts, no history, no record. Nothing pdsimdars Mar 2016 #52

we just don't know him. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #56

banks and stuff ! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #54

IKR? treestar Mar 2016 #60

For Chrissake, I have money in banks too, sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #122

Just not true treestar Mar 2016 #128

Yeah right. RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #133

Did you read what I wrote? sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #139

Me 2...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #163

I am going to have such a hard time voting for her if she's our candidate. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #39

If she doesn't earn your vote, don't give it to her. Easy as that. n/t Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #179

And yet, her supporters will find another excuse, rationalization or blame you for bringing it up pdsimdars Mar 2016 #41

The Junior Senator from NY in 2007, Hillary Progressive dog Mar 2016 #42

She's not the one showing up at college campuses promising impressionable students Trust Buster Mar 2016 #43

I'm 63 and he's not bamboozling me Armstead Mar 2016 #53

That's nice but you're two years away from Medicare and not staring college debt in the face. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #63

Unfortunately i can't afford to be bamboozled either Armstead Mar 2016 #80

C'mon, they're kids. They don't think long term at that age. Bernie knows that. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #83

Maybe Hillary should stop promising too then Armstead Mar 2016 #84

Hillary is promising what Elizabeth Warren is working on. Lowering students interest rates. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #89

I disagree that he is pandering while she is not Armstead Mar 2016 #98

Good debate. Thank you Trust Buster Mar 2016 #101

Me too. 63 and the rest. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #177

what garbage stupidicus Mar 2016 #61

(See Elizabeth Warren) Trust Buster Mar 2016 #67

that doesn't help alleviate the stench of your garbage at all stupidicus Mar 2016 #69

Very polite post. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #73

thanks for conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks stupidicus Mar 2016 #86

I referred to no one as mentally disadvantaged nor was I rude to you personally. Good day. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #92

of course you did stupidicus Mar 2016 #103

Good day. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #108

Give this meme a break. Bernie says over and over it isn't going to happen in the first 100 days. libdem4life Mar 2016 #62

Sanders knows that these college students are distressed financially and seek immediate solutions. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #72

There's no point. There is no vision...just crying about the Republicans. Bernie knows that, too. libdem4life Mar 2016 #202

Reliably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme 103 cantbeserious Mar 2016 #64

If by Establishment FUD, you mean Congressional reality, then I agree. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #76

No - Establishment FUD - Promoted By The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Mar 2016 #78

Your broad generalizations aside, Bernie knows he can't deliver what he promises to these kids. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #85

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Mar 2016 #87

Not my opinion at all. The Dems stand a good chance to take back the Senate. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #91

There Are Effectively Six Parties In America - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own Three cantbeserious Mar 2016 #95

I was talking about political reality as it exists in a polarized country and a Republican House. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #97

This Citizen Speaks Reality - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Own America cantbeserious Mar 2016 #99

Until we have the support of Democrats and a sigificant part of the Republican base, Trust Buster Mar 2016 #106

Yes - This Citizen Can Imagine That cantbeserious Mar 2016 #109

Like Bernie said, "A political revolution." WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #194

George Carlin was a genius! Thank you! senz Mar 2016 #107

Keep up pdsimdars Mar 2016 #66

Nothing big is ever achieved with timing this bad. Given the state of this polarized country, Trust Buster Mar 2016 #82

Sure imari362 Mar 2016 #70

Because the Democrats will support her initiatives unlike Bernie's. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #96

Fantasyland.......... imari362 Mar 2016 #166

They are not supporting him now, are they ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #167

What vote count, specifically, are you talking about? Enthusiast Mar 2016 #187

The Democrats in Congress wouldn't waste their political capital to push for Trust Buster Mar 2016 #190

Every Democrat worthy of the name will work toward Medicare For All every chance they get. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #191

No, she's the one making sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #112

A Republican-controlled House during the next presidency will beat Bernie with the Trust Buster Mar 2016 #125

Elect Clinton sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #132

Yes, because why would a Democrat President want the support of Democrats in Congress or Trust Buster Mar 2016 #136

Please, she will strike the easiest sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #141

Geez, I wish I were gifted with your clairvoyance. Just say you support Bernie. That's easier. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #155

It doesn't require clairvoyance sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #157

I've been reading FlaGranny Mar 2016 #212

People don't seem to understand the history of Teddy Roosevelt. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #217

No! You are misrepresenting what Bernie has said. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #180

Lincoln started the free land grant state universities. All in it together Mar 2016 #189

You gonna believe a magazine with air-brushed cover photos? HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #55

You expect us to see a problem here automatically treestar Mar 2016 #57

+1 salinsky Mar 2016 #90

If big businesses do well, that SHOULD mean more and better jobs. raging moderate Mar 2016 #198

That cover is a dream-come-true. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #68

NINE year old magazine cover. Who cares? Clinton will still win the nomination and Presidency! George II Mar 2016 #75

here's a funny thing hfojvt Mar 2016 #93

GOP is strong in Gwhittey Mar 2016 #144

Now the MSM is trying to rewite history Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #145

I never said anything about Bern or Bern victims. hfojvt Mar 2016 #148

K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #115

OMG LOL I'm dying tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #117

The capitalists are making an investment with an expectation of a healthy return. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #121

K&R! nt Duval Mar 2016 #123

They may think that stealing from Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #127

They think they don't need us All in it together Mar 2016 #196

Her husband was good for all classes. Fine with me. nt OhZone Mar 2016 #152

Wall Street Projects Hillary Clinton Will Be Next U.S. President LS_Editor Mar 2016 #158

I see dollar signs in her eyes. nt zentrum Mar 2016 #164

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #170

Nice catch, thanks! nt MaeScott Mar 2016 #181

Why didn't you give us all the date of that magazine? George II Mar 2016 #200

Their opinion hasn't really changed over the years Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #201

Sanders' opinions haven't changed over the years either? George II Mar 2016 #204

Yes- I have resident quotes along the line of blondie58 Mar 2016 #205

I've got donations by the Sachs! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #207