2016 Postmortem

McKim

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198. She Learned Nothing, She Did the Same in Lybia

Reply to Chicago1980 (Reply #146)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 07:20 PM

Mar 2016

She has learned nothing. It was way more than a "mistake". She should have said a lot more about it. I would like to send her on a slow helicopter ride over the whole region so she could see with her own eyes what she has done. More than 500,000 people are dead over there and the whole region destabilized. But that doesn't stop her, she destabilized Syria and Libya too on her watch as Sect'y of State. I spent 14 years in the Peace Movement because of her "mistake". Her apology means nothing to me. Better minds like Senator Byrd and others voted the other way, as did Senator Sanders. Do not trivialize these deaths as a "mistake"! I am voting for Senator Sanders all the way! My brother law died in Vietnam for a lie so our family knows a lot more than her about "mistakes".

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Bernie Sanders OMITTED From Chicago Democratic Sample Ballot... More Shenanigans... [View all] AzDar Mar 2016 OP

Not unbelievable at all, more HRC infected bullshit. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #1

Now how are you going to blame her? Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #86

who else benefits? roguevalley Mar 2016 #88

That doesn't mean you can blame her personally. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #95

Because she just lucky..... daleanime Mar 2016 #122

No, you're just persnickety and anal. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #141

How many people have died..... daleanime Mar 2016 #144

And..... Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #146

And..... daleanime Mar 2016 #154

I'm eating Chinese and watching TV. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #156

Then what else could I ask for? daleanime Mar 2016 #159

Indeed ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #191

Will she be able to "get things done" and make sure DNC sends corrected sample ballots out? [end] ReasonableToo Mar 2016 #161

Are people that slow that they don't know how to fill out a ballot? Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #167

Then why bother sending them out at all if it doesn't matter if they are accurate? ReasonableToo Mar 2016 #169

Exactly. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #170

If that was your kid, you wouldn't think "sorry" was all it takes to move on. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #176

I didn't say that was all it took. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #177

You don't make ammends by continueing to completely ruin lives by making decisions onecaliberal Mar 2016 #188

2008 was too late for a self-serving apology sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #180

"Sorry for all those dead troops." bvf Mar 2016 #181

A lot less than have died from second hand smoke www.ciafront.com Mar 2016 #184

She pressed Obama to pursue regime change in Libya in 2011. She said Iran was one of her enemies. LS_Editor Mar 2016 #196

She Learned Nothing, She Did the Same in Lybia McKim Mar 2016 #198

DNC corruption ties lynzirhia Mar 2016 #147

Dead on! I'm so sick of this DNC pro-Hillary bullshit... time to take action. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #151

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #155

手水火金木女人把水果?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #164

Is this something I can get a tot tattoo of greiner3 Mar 2016 #175

I blame her personally. eom Enthusiast Mar 2016 #213

Some good DUers explained to me this is a sample ballot nc4bo Mar 2016 #89

Rahm Emmanuel is a Clinton pit bull peacebird Mar 2016 #96

Rahm doesn't run the Board of Elections Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #109

It's naive to think that all the dirty tricks against Sanders are all just coinsidences. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #208

oh duh yeah it's a real ballot go mail it in :P PatrynXX Mar 2016 #115

Who's the mayor of Chicago? cui bono Mar 2016 #124

She could tell surrogates to "cut it out". flor-de-jasmim Mar 2016 #179

Who controls the political machinery in Chicago? blackspade Mar 2016 #202

She is the candidate of the Big Money that have so much money they can buy anything. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #207

He was the last to file, correct? bravenak Mar 2016 #2

So now we're being told that POTUS candidates need to file in every city? edgineered Mar 2016 #7

He was the last to file for the state bravenak Mar 2016 #13

I see that it is just a flyer bravenak Mar 2016 #18

Sure noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #14

No need. It is a flyer. Not a sample ballot. See? bravenak Mar 2016 #20

Yes, you are correct, it's a flyer. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2016 #70

I toss them too bravenak Mar 2016 #77

There aren't many Republicans running in my district. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2016 #111

Mine always goes Dem too bravenak Mar 2016 #114

Yes, I see! Damn! nt Duval Mar 2016 #73

Disappointed? Thor_MN Mar 2016 #84

Sample Ballot. Sorry, it's *huge* not sure how to make it smaller. Stellar Mar 2016 #171

Yeah. It's a flyer from a group who wants those starred candidates to win bravenak Mar 2016 #172

Okay... Stellar Mar 2016 #173

Okay! bravenak Mar 2016 #174

It is a flyer, more than likely to just indicate where each office is located on the ballot. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #99

Yeah, I figured that out finally bravenak Mar 2016 #103

And their rationale for this omission? malthaussen Mar 2016 #3

WTF?!? TDale313 Mar 2016 #4

With the filthy Chicago machine montanacowboy Mar 2016 #5

Rahm has big time messed up my city. mucifer Mar 2016 #12

That is what I am thinking. jwirr Mar 2016 #61

My God noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #6

Another conspiracy uncovered SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #40

A conspiracy in plain sight noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #52

... will use everything they can to defeat our candidate. ...Including endorsements????????????????? lunasun Mar 2016 #131

Bye! nt stillwaiting Mar 2016 #57

Would it have been a simple mistake if all these things happened to your candidate? Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #82

it is not a mistake , it is an endorsement flyer ....try and turn it in on voting day for a laugh!! lunasun Mar 2016 #132

That's a set of endorsements. The Cook County Democrats have endorsed Clinton alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #8

It's BS, but it's a paid ballot. More dirty tricks Kittycat Mar 2016 #9

Paid for by xloadiex Mar 2016 #31

They're legal though Kittycat Mar 2016 #62

You are permitted by Illinois law to bring these into the voting booth with you alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #76

Oh my Gawd, people. It's not a ballot: it's a flyer alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #10

A flyer that informs people on their voting choices. It's fucked up. ETA nc4bo Mar 2016 #16

Yes, that's what the local Democratic organizations do: make selections and promote them alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #23

Just edited my post alcibiades. nc4bo Mar 2016 #27

In General Elections noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #63

The local Democratic organizations are free to endorse and promote as they see fit alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #68

Different from my state noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #78

I don't recall one during 2008, but so many flyers are coming through the mail alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #80

It happens in every election at every level hack89 Mar 2016 #26

I've never EVER gotten anything like this in my mail. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #32

You have led a sheltered life then. Nt hack89 Mar 2016 #34

Perhaps some don't have time to play bullcrap games. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #37

Sample ballots promoting a slate of candidates are very common election documents alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #42

We don't get anything like that or at least me or my family. nc4bo Mar 2016 #55

From the responses here I'm guessing it's an urban thing Recursion Mar 2016 #85

They hand out same ballots right at the poll gwheezie Mar 2016 #97

They obviously think it is an official ballot used at the polls for voting and are outraged lunasun Mar 2016 #137

True - for a general election dflprincess Mar 2016 #128

Unless it's put out by a campaign gwheezie Mar 2016 #140

If it were put out by a campaign dflprincess Mar 2016 #142

and now- it is CT of the day! bettyellen Mar 2016 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #25

I suggest you take it up with SEIU alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #28

By any means necessary, amirite? Seems legit. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #33

I'm an awful, terrible person alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #36

if the foo shits AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #39

I wanted to cut through your faux outrage to what you really wanted to say alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #45

Be sure to wash your hands before putting words in other peoples' mouths, kay? AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #53

+1 Agschmid Mar 2016 #214

wow... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #11

Those are ALL endorsements listed, every category has candidates missing, LOL. I get these every bettyellen Mar 2016 #15

I don't ever remember getting anything like there where I am bettyellen. nt nc4bo Mar 2016 #21

It depends on if and how active campaigns are. I always get lefty propaganda, but when there bettyellen Mar 2016 #38

Yes, that certainly makes sense. nc4bo Mar 2016 #46

I'd guess some of the people campaigning for downticket races decided it is worth doing since bettyellen Mar 2016 #113

Hell, back in the day (late 1800s) parties would print the actual ballots Recursion Mar 2016 #90

We get sheets of paper at our polling place, Ds and Rs. nc4bo Mar 2016 #116

Do you get them in the Primaries? noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #139

I have when there is a local slate running, because I am on the local party's list as a registered bettyellen Mar 2016 #150

Curious noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #163

Well it is Chicago malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #17

Cook County Ill. 'nuff said. Makes my home town Brooklyn look like the home of clean politics. bklyncowgirl Mar 2016 #29

Pretty much. Kittycat Mar 2016 #30

This stuff is becoming standard operating procedure for Clinton-friendly PTB. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #19

I can only assume this is the 1st election for some people gwheezie Mar 2016 #24

So what if it is? What a turn off to a new voter to see their candidate disregarded. But it's how Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #91

So your outrage is just now? gwheezie Mar 2016 #102

I believe you may be correct about 1st time voters . I did not think about that lunasun Mar 2016 #157

That's the *point* of sample ballots Recursion Mar 2016 #35

NO, it is meant to be a sample so you get the idea of what the ballow looks like. riversedge Mar 2016 #44

Every sample ballot I've ever received is an endorsement list Recursion Mar 2016 #50

I have never seen a sample ballot that is an endorsement. never. riversedge Mar 2016 #58

It's literally the only kind I've ever received, so we're at an impasse Recursion Mar 2016 #67

That Rahm. Octafish Mar 2016 #41

If this is just a flyer Gwhittey Mar 2016 #43

I don't know that it doesn't disclose who sent it. The picture is oddly cropped alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #64

IT sez 13 th Ward . No mystery about who sent it lunasun Mar 2016 #153

You have a valid point about the "official" look of this flier. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #71

That is NOT an official sample ballot KingFlorez Mar 2016 #47

Then it probably shouldn't say Official Democratic Primaries Sample Ballot :-P Bradical79 Mar 2016 #75

This really should not be called a "sample ballot". surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #48

That's what a sample ballot is, isn't it? Recursion Mar 2016 #51

It does not list all the candidates. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #60

Right. Just like every sample ballot anybody has ever handed me Recursion Mar 2016 #72

I've never been handed one. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #79

Sure, that too, but at least in DC there's always a Democrat and sometimes a Republican Recursion Mar 2016 #81

Once in a while you'll see someone ... surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #92

I'm learning a lot about the diversity of American voting experiences from this thread Recursion Mar 2016 #94

I got one similar to this one in the mail in Chicago last week alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #83

WTFITShit? MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #49

Not that THIS guy would have anything to do with that: Ken Burch Mar 2016 #54

fits my impression of Chicago politics oldandhappy Mar 2016 #56

When elections are rigged the results are not legitimate Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #59

Just like Bill traipsing around polling places, snowy owl Mar 2016 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #66

Not the least Old Codger Mar 2016 #69

It's not from the DNC alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #74

It may be a flyer zentrum Mar 2016 #87

If it's a flyer Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #93

Honestly gwheezie Mar 2016 #98

Would like to know zentrum Mar 2016 #100

I guess there are always shenanigans, Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #104

Yeah same thing with ballot initiatives gwheezie Mar 2016 #125

These flyers are not connected to state or local election boards lunasun Mar 2016 #138

I'd be interested in seeing an uncropped version alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #101

Honestly, I'd be interested to see that, too, Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #108

Shit like that (flier) passing as official nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #105

Added to the list Bubzer Mar 2016 #106

They cheat. senz Mar 2016 #107

WTF! Are you new to politics? itsrobert Mar 2016 #110

election, yes, but this is a primary! sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #123

and this is Chicago ...this is the main event as most are going to vote dem in the gen election lunasun Mar 2016 #149

"ELECTION LAW PERMITS YOU TO TAKE THIS SAMPLE BALLOT INTO THE VOTING BOOTH" Petrushka Mar 2016 #112

Is his name missing from actual ballots? How many people read the sample ballot? LonePirate Mar 2016 #117

Sickening and Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #118

Clinton Cheaters? billhicks76 Mar 2016 #119

He was omitted from the Corp Media tonight also, barely mentioned way late after we already sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #120

THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY !!! Hiraeth Mar 2016 #121

This thread is all kinds of awesome...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #126

So, if this is legal during a primary, sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #127

From the ward organization - Marty Quinn - 13th ward. Peregrine Took Mar 2016 #129

And now we have another genius thread. I'd Say UNBELIEVABLE, but you're right.... JTFrog Mar 2016 #130

Chicago? sus453 Mar 2016 #133

They come out on their own HubertHeaver Mar 2016 #136

Jury Results Hazelrah Mar 2016 #134

Yep. Bernie IS ON THE ACTUAL BALLOT. Just sent my early ballot voting for Bernie on it a week ago. ancianita Mar 2016 #162

"keep this site free of abusive behavior not control discussion" - LOL Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #195

its the endorsed candidates. wtf is wrong w people? mopinko Mar 2016 #135

Clueless or CT'er ...hard to say lunasun Mar 2016 #143

We're going to have to storm that Convention. Bring your pitch fork! YOHABLO Mar 2016 #145

dont forget your 13th Ward sample ballot lunasun Mar 2016 #158

Considering that Sanders' supporters just aren't showing up at the polls... Kang Colby Mar 2016 #148

Good ole buddy Rahm helping everyone from Rauner to the Clintons AllyCat Mar 2016 #152

Bernie IS ON THE ACTUAL BALLOT. Just sent my early ballot voting for Bernie on it a week ago. ancianita Mar 2016 #160

Official Sample Online. Bernie is no. 6 pat_k Mar 2016 #165

That's a slate paid for by Michael J. Madigan Brother Buzz Mar 2016 #166

FALSE ALARM: We get this crap all the time. RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #168

Promoting "your choice" on the ballot is one thing, but what you are presenting really sucks!! Person 2713 Mar 2016 #183

This is pretty high Faux pas Mar 2016 #178

I was wondering when the Sanders folks would find something new to be outraged over brooklynite Mar 2016 #182

Source? brufanegra Mar 2016 #185

The source was probably on a subway bench or in a street gutter. These are endorsement flyers Person 2713 Mar 2016 #186

That's an endorsement sample ballot. MineralMan Mar 2016 #187

OMFG!!!11!!!! political flyer favors certain politicians!?!?!!!!!!11! WHAT TEH FUCK!?!? PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #189

IF true, WOW!... Helen Borg Mar 2016 #190

It's a flyer metroins Mar 2016 #194

Isn't Rahm Emanuel ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #192

tee-hee! tee-hee! Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #193

It would be nothing, except for the line at the top ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #197

Rhamville. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #199

More party establishment bullshit. blackspade Mar 2016 #200

Whoever was responsible for putting this out needs to be up on charges of PatrickforO Mar 2016 #201

Could you point to the law that says a Political Party can't endorse candidates? brooklynite Mar 2016 #204

You're supporting sample ballots falsified by omission? PatrickforO Mar 2016 #216

They're not FLASE... brooklynite Mar 2016 #217

So, when is this going to be covered by the media? Rebkeh Mar 2016 #203

pffft - ALERT THE PRESS!! PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #205

But who's gonna see it? nt Rebkeh Mar 2016 #206

People who get political flyers. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #209

Broadcast blast would be better Rebkeh Mar 2016 #210

Same! PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #211

Why would an endorsement by local Dems be covered by the national media? Agschmid Mar 2016 #215

That's the way they roll. Unfair and unbelievable. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #212